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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 06:52 PM
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Obama Exclusive: I Was Born in Hawaii and I Don’t 'Have Horns'


April 14, 2011 6:31 PM


I thought the president would take a pass when I asked him about Donald Trump’s rise to the top of the Republican field in my exclusive interview today.

Far from it.

He grabbed at the chance with a big smile – saying he thinks the whole issue will be a problem for Republicans.

“I think that over the last two and a half years there's been an effort to go at me in a way that is politically expedient in the short-term for Republicans. But creates, I think a problem for them when they want to actually run in a general election where most people feel pretty confident the President was born where he says he was, in Hawaii. He-- he doesn't have horns…we're not really worrying about conspiracy theories or-- or birth certificates,” President Obama told me.

And in all my talks with Obama I think it was the first time he was one the same page as Karl Rove who thinks the “birther” controversy is hurting the GOP.

snip

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2011/04/president-barac...
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:24 PM
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1. His calm, cool and mature demeanor make them look so foolish...n/t
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 07:34 PM
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2. For those that don't know.
Conspiracy theories are used against some groups.

By feeding some set of information to a group that paints a conspiracy theory, that can get them to sound crazy to many other people that do not have the same information.

That effect is separate from if the 'conspiracy theorist' are correct or not.

For instance if you control a method of information dispersal, Internet system, or Media outlet, you can direct some information to different groups, then those groups sound crazy to everyone else. And they can even be correct. It is one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind, or using bad information to get people chasing rabbits down rabbit holes. Depending if the conspiracy is correct or not. Side note, there are some that are correct, although when you start to look, it is not orchestrated by people.


But anyways, here is how you do handle that, know that different people see different things, and try to find a way to see what they see, so you can think on it to see if it is correct or not by your thought.

So when you see a fake thing on tv, or know some don't see real things, mention that part of that can be different sets of information for different people.

As far as them being 'interested' in conspiracy theories, all they need to know is I am due beer and travel money and many experiences, and that will be paid. And they know that.


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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 04:56 AM
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3. Actually if you want to know how to look at a conspiracy theory.
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 05:47 AM by RandomThoughts
there is a way to do it.

First don't let 'I wouldn't do that' effect what you think some others might do. Most people are more good then bad, and would not do what some people do. So they think nobody would do those things. They think that there are not psychopaths causing problems, instead of doing to remove the psychopaths that cause problems.

Basically many think, that can't happen. They think things like all people care about other people, or work for other people, they do not know a very few, and some in some positions to have some effects, think doing the terrible is actually good, and is doing what nobody else would do, and have created some sense of honor in their minds by being psychopathic and uncaring. Some are just burn outs and do not care.

But again they are very few people like that, and they are limited.


But on the topic of thinking on conspiracy theories.

First ask is it possible. Does the tech exist, or could the tech exist to do something.

Then follow the money, see if there is a motive for someone to do something like that.

Then see if the action, if terrible as many conspiracies are, matches the other actions people in those groups were willing to do.

And most of those thoughts will be about guessing what other people think and what they might be willing to do.

But know some believe strength is having the will to do what others will not do, and many other sayings about being terrible.

But anyways, many 'conspiracies' are possible, but them being possible, does not mean they were done that way.


9/11 could have been from a few groups, I doubt very much it had anything to do with any religious extremism, or any nation around that topic. And even if some in those groups use terrorism, that is like an extrema case of astro turfing by other groups in reality. The religious extremist are used to do bad and dumb things by people that use PR on them, including some Machiavellian PR. Same thing, is done in other countries that can get people to approve of things like wars that kill thousands, when wars are actually more about consolidating global control systems.

So it could be any group that did it, but I doubt it had anything to do with what people were told it was about.

shrug, I am due beer and travel money and many experiences.




Here is a good conspiracy theory to show how to think on such topics.

Could a group mount electronic warfare equipment to be used directly against people, mounted on helicopters or other things in flight.

So you ask is it possible, could radiation, or some elecro magnetic, or other strong energy items that would cause some bad effect on a person by broadcast from something like a helicopter be used. We know em fields cause a variety of cognitive issues at high energy levels, and radiation can damage brain cells at low levels or worse at higher levels.

Then you ask, if it is possible, are there types that would build it, and possibly use it.

Then you look to see if there is any observational evidence such systems were or are used.

you don't let something someone says get you to believe something, you try to figure out based on past patterns if you think such a thing might exist.



shrug, I am due beer and travel money and many experiences.

On a better note :)
I like this song :)
Don't fear the Reaper.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH3h70aRFxQ


Side note, That does not mean it has anything to do with governance, the companies that make various technical items are private sector, and could build or sell to private sector groups.


I like this song also :)

Annie Lennox - Shining Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfJeQDkz4JU
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