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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:01 PM
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Marijuana Not So Green - big carbon footprint?
Study Finds Growing Pot Indoors is Energy-Intensive



"Cannabis production results in energy expenditures of $5 billion each year."

The electricity use is equivalent to that of two million average U.S. homes.

It accounts for one percent of national electricity consumption.

To put it in more real-life terms, Mills writes that one joint "represents two pounds of CO2 emissions, an amount equal to running a 100-watt light bulb for 17 hours with average U.S. electricity."


(more)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/04/14/13541527...

Link to study: http://evan-mills.com/energy-associates/Indoor.html

So, grow outdoors, or not at all?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:03 PM
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1. We already had this thread posted, see here is a nice post on it about Holder's Taint.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 05:15 PM by Uncle Joe


Thanks for the thread, Common Sense Party.
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:15 PM
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12. How many deaths from Marijuana externalities? 0.....that's ZERO!

How much energy does the production of tobacco, or alcohol, or even automobiles consume?

And for whatever massive amounts of energy are used to produce those items, we get (figures are averages from 1999-2007):


Tobacco annual deaths = 435,000

Alcohol annual deaths = 85,000

Automobile annual deaths = 26,347

Marijuana annual deaths = 0


\http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:20 PM
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16. And that's not the only good post on that thread, apparently Mr. Mills doesn't make a distinction
between the burning of contemporary carbon as in the smoking of cannabis and that of fossil fuels buried for millions of years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:03 PM
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2. What's the carbon footprint for prohibition? n/t
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:04 PM
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3. On the other hand, Big Pharma is totally green
:sarcasm:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:18 PM
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14. Ding! Ding! Ding! we have the winner!!! nt
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:05 PM
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4. So what?
Sometimes Green is overrated.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:05 PM
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5. A far better and more honest title: Marijuana Prohibition Not So Green - big carbon footprint?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:07 PM
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6. How odd that people trying to avoid prison aren't more concerned about energy.
:eyes:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:10 PM
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8. LOL...
:toast:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:08 PM
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7. I wonder how beer compares. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 05:08 PM by Wilms
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:10 PM
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9. When it's legal it can be grown outside... and use a free energy source!
This is another good reason to legalize!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:11 PM
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10. They needed a study for that?
Who knew that running 1,000-watt lights 24 hours a day would use a lot of energy? :shrug:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:14 PM
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11. If growing tomato's was illegal, one could say
Tomato's Not So Green - big carbon footprint?
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:16 PM
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13. Unrec this same thead being posted over and over.
yeah fine legalize it so people can grow outdoors. or else your not actually serious about solving it.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:45 AM
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19. Fuckin' stoners can't remember whether they posted it or not
I keed, I keed!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:18 PM
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15. Wow, what a bunch of crap.
Cannabis is no different than any other crop in its demands on sun, soil and water. Sure if you grow it in garages, under lamps, it's going to use more energy. My neighbor grows his own medical marijuana legally alongside his other herbs, cabbages, and other kitchen crops. Same water and fertilizer is used for all.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 05:58 PM
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17. Marijuana is a freaking weed. Just let people plant it. nt
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:40 AM
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18. My, some people are touchy about conserving energy. n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 11:51 AM
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20. It's a question about what conserving energy is and the insane War on Drugs just like any other War
Edited on Fri Apr-15-11 11:51 AM by Uncle Joe
doesn't work to conserve energy from any perspective.
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