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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:42 PM
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The Word Pussy Is Just As Blatantly Offensive As Faggot Or Retard
No matter who uses it. When it's used a pejorative, it is misogynist.

Just because some women decide they find the word acceptable doesn't make it so.

And while many DU'ers would rush to label the use of the word faggot homophobic or retard as hurtful it seems a good many are perfectly happy to excuse the use of the word "pussy'.

If an author uses the word faggot to call someone weak or cowardly, they are being offensive.

Or if they use the word retard for someone who is not the brightest, they are being offensive.

The word pussy, when used as a slur, calls up no meaningful image. As a pejorative, it is only ever used to degrade someone else by calling them a slang term for a woman's body part.

Matt Taibbi wrote an article in which he called TeaBaggers pussies.

It's a disgrace that Rolling Stone's editors didn't tell Taibbi to grow up and find a more fitting, descriptive term.

You'd think a supposedly liberal writer would be aware of how crude, offensive and juvenile using the word pussy really is.

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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:44 PM
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1. does the same go for the word "dick"?
I ask, because in an earlier thread I assume you're referring to, the person most upset with "pussy" kept calling the men who uttered the word "dicks". Hypocrisy in action.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:47 PM
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7. Kept accusing people of having small ones, too.
I guess she likes 'em big.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM
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9. hmmmm, that poster couldn't have been trying to make a point about offensive
language, could they?
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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26. No.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM
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13. if you aren't aware of the degrading names women have
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM by Whisp
been called throughout the centuries to dehumanize them, (and those names almost always refer to her body or parts thereof, or the lust/hate of those parts) if you aren't aware then I guess there is no point explaining it further.

edited for plural for century. so sorry, must be getting the vapours or something.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:54 PM
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25. a meaningless non-answer
You posed a conditional if/then. The condition wasn't met. I am aware of women being called names, and it's been going on longer than this century. The question still stands. Are you able to answer it?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM
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I know I would be very pissed if someone called my mother or daughter or sister
or aunt or friend a pussy.

But I guess you would be fine with that
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:08 PM
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62. I can't keep talking to you if you're not able to keep up
Where on earth did you get any idea I would be "fine with that"? I never suggested such a thing. I never implied such a thing. You inferred such a thing. Where did you get such a dumbfuck idea?
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:58 PM
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36. It is demeaning to reduce anyone to their sexual
organs.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
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43. thanks for the straight answer
I'm not sure how much I agree or disagree, but thanks for answering my question.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:23 PM
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87. So if I call someone a butthead or assmunch is that demeaning? it's a sexual organ
well, sometimes :P
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:52 PM
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148. well, sometimes
;)
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:59 PM
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38. Actually, it doesn't
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:03 PM by Tansy_Gold
And the reason it doesn't is because Anything Male is still considered superior/better than/more powerful than Anything Female.

Calling someone a "dick" may be an insult, but it is an insult that still contains an implication of power and authority, even if such power and authority are used inappropriately. Dick cheney is a dick. Muammar Ghaddafi is a dick. John Boner is a dick. Mitch McConnell is a dick. Dick Armey is a dick.

Words referring to male anatomy are words connoting power, force, authority, strength. "To have the balls to do something," for instance, is often a phrase applied to women who have courage or conviction. Men, however, are never described as having tits or ovaries or other female anatomical parts as a way to indicate they are brave or courageous. It. Just. Isn't. Done.

To call someone a "pussy" is to insult by implying they are effeminate (which is an insult in and of itself) but also weak and ineffective, qualities associated with the female and therefore less good than Anything Male.

A woman who uses authority inappropriately may be labeled a bitch, but she is rarely labeled a dick, because that is a term generally reserved for men. Hillary Clinton might be called a bitch, the late Leona Helmsley might be called a bitch, even Michelle Bachmann, but not very often would these women be referred to as a dick. It. Just. Isn't. Done.

Taibbi is writing for effect. He knows "pussy" is considered an insult by the teabaggers (which is a sexist/homophobic slur in itself) and he uses it intentionally. If he were comparing them to baby cats, he could have used "kittens" or "kitties," or he could have switched species and called them "puppies" or "bunnies." "Pussy" has a very clear implication and while I don't condone Taibbi's use of it, I recognize the effect he was going for. To suggest he was doing otherwise is, imho, dishonest.


TG
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
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So...."Bitch" is in, "Pussy" is out?
I can never keep track.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:05 PM
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53. Both should be out.
You missed the point, but I guess I should have expected that.

It's a bit difficult to discuss words and their meanings without actually using the words.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM
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97. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
:rofl:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM
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119. Hi, bebe!
:hi:

Still attracting the weirdos?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:51 PM
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147. LOL
*peeps over my shoulder*

:hi:

:loveya:
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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49. thanks for the reply
Just to clarify, if your last sentence is directed at me, it's misdirected. I have not suggested Taibbi was doing one thing or another. Instead, I was seeking a point of order with the "dick-laden" invective that SB used to inveigh against "pussy" language. Your post is thought-provoking; again, thanks.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:06 PM
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57. the last sentence was directed at anyone who suggested
Taibbi was using "pussy" to refer to a baby cat.

It that's you, so be it. If not, same thing.



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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:10 PM
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:13 PM
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No, actually, I don't
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:17 PM by Tansy_Gold
(get the point, that is) because I don't have any idea what you wrote in the other thread. I skimmed it, noted it, and that was it. I'm not going to go back and read it and find out what you did or didn't write. I really don't care enough about it to spend that much time.

I posted on this thread because it was about the words, not Taibbi's column.

And it is not allowed on DU to call members names or accuse them of being/voting Republican.
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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:22 PM
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86. again, try to keep up
I complimented you on your post, but cautioned that if you were referring to me in your last sentence, then you were incorrect. You replied by telling me that your words apply, whether I'm guilty or not. You have in so doing attempted to confer some guilt to me, whether you actually intended to or not. So I replied in kind, and (too optimistically) thought you would understand the clear analogy. You did not. I could just as easily have said "all child molesters should be shot in the face. if this applies to you, so be it. if not, same...". I went with "republican hiding on DU" instead. A final, fun note: you trapped yourself. You've warned me that name-calling isn't allowed on DU. Thanks....aside from the fact that I've only been here 10 years and already knew that a thousand times over, you boxed yourself into a logic trap. You made the accusation that anyone who said Taibbi was referring to a cat was lying/wrong/whatever. Then you told me that if this doesn't apply to me, then so be it. By the same token, why don't you go ahead and tell me who I accused of being a Republican? Seriously, I'll drop $100 in your Pay Pal account today if you can accurately tell me who I accused of being a Republican, using the same construct you used. I'll be waiting. Meantime, if it doesn't apply to you, just don't worry about it. Thanks, and have a great afternoon.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM
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117. I would greatly appreciate it if you'd stick to the discussion
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM by Tansy_Gold
I don't care who said what, and I don't know who said what.

The point I made -- and which you may or may not have got -- was that my last sentence referred to those who claimed Taibbi used "pussy" to mean "little baby kitty cats."

If you were one of them, and I don't know or care if you were -- then yes, my words applied to you. And if you weren't one of them, then obviously my words DIDN'T because they couldn't.

I don't go around DU trying to insult people. I posted what I thought was an academic reply to a legitimate question, but apparently it wasn't a question so much as it was a taunt, and I in my sincere innocence fell for it.

Even so, that's no reason to go around calling people names or accusing them of anything, veiled or otherwise.

And I don't give a rat's ass how long you've been here or how much you've donated to DU or anything else. All I care about is what you write. Or at least I did. Now I don't give a rat's ass about that either.







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DisgustipatedinCA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:43 PM
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133. If I had called you a name, you'd be $100 richer
You were being dismissive with your "so be it" line; I called you on it, and I used the same logic you used. Don't like it? Then maybe you shouldn't have said it in the first place. There's no reason to go around calling people names, or accusing them of anything, veiled or otherwise. If this doesn't apply to you, don't worry about it. You're not able to see your own hypocrisy, which is a real shame, because I've always generally enjoyed your posts. Now I see you as someone incapable of seeing his/her own error and stubbornly refusing to listen to any notions to the contrary.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:05 PM
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56. Thanks for that post
Very thoughtful. I'll try to respond after thinking about it a bit.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:21 PM
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84. I use the word "cunt" a lot
Instinctively. To refer to men in a mildly derogatory or informal way, among friends. I can't dredge up any connection between the term, in my own mind, and female genitalia, but of course such a term and usage could only have emerged, historically, from the culture of misogyny.

Also, as I think about it, I probably also use it to signal that I am working class, Scottish, etc. Using certain language reinforces my identity and signals some sort of authenticity.

Taibbi is working in the gonzo HST sort of tradition, and I think he uses these terms either a) because these are the terms he thinks in, or b) because he wants to speak in a way that gives the IMPRESSION that we are reading the train of thoughts of a genuine person like us - the use of such language gives us a sense of not being seperated from Taibbi by a barrier of editing, style rules, etc etc.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM
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101. Your last paragraph could not be more on point
There are people around here who I suspect would go into a vapors coma if they ever read any of Thompson's stuff. In terms of pure and inventive linguistic vituperation even Taibbi can't touch the great HST.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:09 PM
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64. Wish I could rec your post. nt
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #38
75. What should society do?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:58 PM by Vinnie From Indy
I agree with you that Taibbi used the word "pussies" intentionally. One may offer that he is actually speaking in a language these people can understand and that makes his writing more effective and focused. He did it to provoke a response from those being called pussies.

Also, should we as thinking people simply discard the thoughts of Taibbi because he used a certain word?

I ask what society should do because of the highly subjective nature of outrage. While some find the word "pussies" offensive others are far more radical and would have us tear down the Washington Monument because it is a phallic symbol of male dominance.


You write,
"And the reason it doesn't is because Anything Male is still considered superior/better than/more powerful than Anything Female.

Calling someone a "dick" may be an insult, but it is an insult that still contains an implication of power and authority, even if such power and authority are used inappropriately. Dick cheney is a dick. Muammar Ghaddafi is a dick. John Boner is a dick. Mitch McConnell is a dick. Dick Armey is a dick."

Would your above offering not be simply YOUR opinion about the effect of calling someone a "dick" and would that mentality not be exactly what the word police are raging on about? Is not the focus of rage by some on this thread the assumptions of men that using a word is OK when others (even if only a few) find the word offensive and hateful is unacceptable? In short, pot meet kettle.


Cheers!
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:15 PM
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76. "big, swinging dick" is considered highly complimentary
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:26 PM
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93. People who can over-think an issue like that have very little in life to be worried about.
And that's a good thing for them, but a bad thing for everyone else really. It's shit like that that give 'PC' a bad rep. I'm all for not being offensive, but being overly sensitive to the point of making all language as neutral as possible is just boring and counter-productive. Just my humble opinion.

Not intended to be taken as a fictional statement.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:13 PM
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71. So if you're a wimpy man, you're "Vaginally challenged."
Got it. I'll try that on the next boy's night out.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM
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98. a male uses these terms to feel like a man. they use them on other men to make them feel
less a man. they do it with each other to prove manhood to each other. any man that has to put down a woman to feel like a man has issues with manhood. hence, go directly to the penis as being part of the issue.

a man comfortable in his manhood does not feel the need to denigrate women.

imo
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:42 PM
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129. I find this post offensive!
Who are you tell an entire gender how we feel? Quit telling men how we feel about things because until you get a set of testicles, you have no right to make such hateful and offensive statements. See how easy this is!

You write,
"a man comfortable in his manhood does not feel the need to denigrate women."

Right back at ya!

Cheers!
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #129
149. WOOT!
:fistbump:

...from a chick that finds hypocrisy hilarious!!!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:45 PM
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2. I never use that word, unless it's followed by "cat."
I prefer "hoohoo" or "cooter." But, then, I'd only use them to refer to girl parts - never to a person.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:45 PM
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3. Jeebus crispy. Get over it. Use the ignore button.
Enough already with the hysterical language-police routine - you're not changing any minds.

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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:46 PM
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4. Seconded.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:47 PM
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5. "hysterical language-police routine"
you probably are changing some minds though, and not for the better :eyes:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:46 PM
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138. No, the perpetually outraged crowd has been made up of the same, small group for years.
They're not getting any smaller, but they're not getting any bigger, either.

There is maybe .5% of DU whose favorite pursuit is playing morals police and language cop. The rest of this place is not going to pick up torches and demand that Taibbi or the Rude Pundit be silenced, no matter how many threads full of breathless outrage are started on the subject.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM
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11. How about faggot and nigger and fucking shit like that?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM by JuniperLea
This is no different.

I find your post offensive to the nth degree... seriously, dude, wake the fuck up.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM
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12. do you know that the words hysterical and hysterectomy share the same root?
HYSTERECTOMY, HYSTERIA and HYSTERICAL are a sexist threesome from Greek "hystera", meaning uterus or womb.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:51 PM
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. I hope everyone reads what you just wrote... I'd love to hear feedback on this.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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28. pussy is sexist
when a man is called a pussy it means he is less than a man, he is a... a... a woman! one of those weak frail humans that grows around a vagina. Men struggle like hell to get out of it when they are born, and spend the rest of their lives trying to get back in.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:58 PM
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35. What about when women are called pussies?
So calling a man "pussy" is sexist. Gotcha.
If I call a girl "pussy"... is that sexist?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
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yes
are you just pretending to be foolish?
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM
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99. No, I'm not.
You offered a rationalization as to why calling a man "pussy" is sexist - it's an insult "meaning he is less than a man, he is a... a... a woman!"

I was wondering if you provide a rationalization as to why it's sexist to call a female "pussy" (keeping the above rationalizatoin in mind, of course).

??
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:45 PM
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134. I've never called a woman a pussy
What would be the point in that? I find the C word to be much more effective~

Quite a day on DU. First circumcision and now this!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
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46. We're just being hysterical, right?
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:03 PM
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47. You tell 'em! n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #19
104. "HYSTERECTOMY, HYSTERIA and HYSTERICAL" are not sexist? Yes, they are.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:34 PM
Response to Reply #104
113. 'My mom had a hysterectomy.'
Gawds, I feel like such a sexist DICK now... :eyes:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM
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121. Good. Go sit in the corner
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #104
116. Huh?!?!?!
So according to you, a doctor can't use the word "hysterectomy" to describe a medical procedure? What would you have them say? "We are going to remove the thingy now."???

Sounds like you are being hysterical now.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #116
118. hahahahaha. You guys are too funny.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:49 PM
Response to Reply #12
145. Isn't hydra a greek word, too?
one beast---- with many heads...



kind of a similar idea, no?

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM
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42. I agree. This is what makes women look weak and
powerless. The word has several meanings and the knee-jerk reaction each time someone sees the word and the assumption that the author meant it as an insult, makes women look like silly, pouting children, frankly.

The objection to other women with a different view is also interesting.

The derailing of entire threads so that 'offended' people can tell us over and over again just how offended they are, does nothing for women or the issues they face.

Taibbi's meaning was clear to anyone who is familiar with him and familiar with the meaning of the word.

I wish there was this same passion for truly important issues, like the one Taibbi was talking about, the taking over of this country by complete lunatics.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:11 PM
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68. am i not suppose to respond to people that reply to me or call me out sabrina
i keep hearing i hijacked a thread, when i made one statement about my feeling with choice of word and from there responded to people that either replied to my post, or called me out elsewhere.

so

are you suggesting in order for me not to be accused of hijacking a thread i am suppose to keep my fucking mouth shut regardless of what people say to me.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:17 PM
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80. No, you are free to respond however you want, but the thread
was hi-jacked, and I am as much to blame for that as you are.

Might have been better to start another thread with a link to the article, and I should have suggested that I suppose.

But, we are all human, and we are not always going to agree or be offended by the same things ...

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:18 PM
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82. you are the only honest person who particpated on that thread.... nt
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:16 PM
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77. Well said, sabrina 1. nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:16 PM
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79. Nope. Words matter. Comparing "lunatics" to women
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:17 PM by EFerrari
as an insult, which it certainly was intended to be, perpetuates stupid stereotypes about women.

And standing up to blatant sexism isn't silly or childish or weak.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:21 PM
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85. To me, the word has always
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:22 PM by sabrina 1
meant kitty cat. I know it has been used by illiterate, brain-dead, knuckle-draggers in an attempt to insult women, but in the context in which Taibbi used it was to compare teabaggers who view themselves as lions but who in reality are nothing more than pussycats.



Teabagger with delusions of strength
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:24 PM
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90. It doesn't read that way in popular culture which is where he works.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:43 PM
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132. ^^^^^ Oh noes, you used the H-word!
:scared:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:47 PM
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6. So is "douchbag"
Yeah, we need to clean up the language.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:48 PM
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10. Then why don't you write a list of what we can and cannot say...
Come on now---you can do it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:29 PM
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102. Tru
If I called you a dick, would you hold it against me?

:rofl:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:40 PM
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124. Why not become more aware of the people around you? Do you call people retards at home?
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:53 PM
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24. Please please please don't make me stop saying that
I'll have to quit driving. :shrug:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:05 PM
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54. I use butt monkey for driving...
I usually use that one when someone is on my ass doing 60. And shithead for general asshatery on the road.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:28 PM
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100. butt monkey is a slur against GLBT community
You should find a new term to use please
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:31 PM
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107. Really? I thought I'd made it up!
I've never heard it used, ever, except by me.

I'm not sure why it would be offensive to the GLBT community...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:40 PM
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123. Try asshat. I like that one. It's neutral in gender.
Whenever possible, I try to choose neutral insults that can apply to anyone. Saves thinking time in an emergency.

My ex-wife, though, was very creative in her insults. I think her best one emerged when a driver in a car almost ran over her when she was riding her bicycle.

"You box-head motherfucker!" she roared at the driver. Since she was in no way hurt in the incident, I fell down laughing. Very creative, I thought.



Oh, the driver was a woman.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:32 PM
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108. You are a Fargin Icehole!!!
You sominome Bastage!!!!

All of you cork seekers should have your bells put in a sling.

Oh ... and your tone ... well ... uterus apart!!

Some one should kick your back side so hard that Uranus is right in front of your face.

I am now OFF to the fainting couch!!!

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:47 PM
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:49 PM
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14. So how do you feel about the words, "dick" or "prick"? n/t
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:35 PM
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114. I had a girlfriend who's last name was Dick. But I was polite when I met her parents ...
And said "I'm happy to meet you, Mr. and Mrs. Penis.".

Ok ... this is not true completely true.

Her last name was Dick. But I did not call her parents, the Penises.
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:50 PM
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15. I'm sick of the word police.
Get over it. You have no constitutional right never to be offended. Grow up. Deal with it. Everybody has some word or phrase they don't like. Political correctness has gotten to the point that people can no longer communicate effectively.

Hey if you are concerned about offending people....political correctness offends me. Will you stop? No. Do I care? No.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:52 PM
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20. I guess you think Kobe shouldn't apologize or pay a fine? eom
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM
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39. I don't know the reference
What did Kobe say/do? Is this some sports person?

Frankly I don't give a rip what these sports idiots say. Most of them aren't that bright/educated. I'll be satisfied if we could get a few of the professional athletes to cut down on the raping women, killing, fathering 2 dozen bastard children, shooting up some club, or killing/torturing animals for the fun of it.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:16 PM
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78. Kobe is only one of the most famous basketball players of all times...
And he called a ref a "fucking faggot" and instead of apologizing, he said he didn't mean it literally. I think his second statement is actually far worse than the first one. The Lakers need a good PR firm... idiots!
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:56 PM
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30. +1 nt
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:14 PM
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73. Couldn't agree more ~
This thread offends me as it denigrates women who are not offended by the use of the word in the context in which it was used. It also gives the impression that all women should be offended by what offends the OP.

But, too bad for me. I'll survive ....
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:50 PM
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146. PUSSY GALORE!!!!!!! OH THE HUMANITY!!
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:50 PM
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16. I started using "wussie" for that reason.
It's a combo of "wimp" and "pussy". It says the same thing, while being less offensive(IMO).

I agree that Matt should have found another word. Wussie would have been perfect. :smoke:
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:51 PM
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18. But less offensive TOO YOU....
what about other people who find Wussie offensive?
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:31 PM
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105. Fuck 'em!
They're just retart....er....regressive.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:50 PM
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17. Well in that same thread---Seabeyond used the word Wuss...
it that OK?---aren't many offended by that word?

And she's offended by the work Pussy?

Ya see that's the danger with word police.....
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:52 PM
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21. I, as a male, would be very blatantly offended if someone said I had "little dick syndrome"
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 02:54 PM by AlabamaLibrul
mostly because they don't know me or what syndromes I may or may not have.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM
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32. I would just get my vast penis out and flap it around
obviously I do not suffer from this condition
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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52. Also, that person may just be projecting because of their "wide vagina syndrome"
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:06 PM by Guy Whitey Corngood
:hide: :evilgrin:
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:39 PM
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120. I just say I'm a grow-er not a show-er
:rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:10 PM
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65. Comparing TeaKlanners to women as an insult is sexist.
No one has to listen to the word police but at least be in charge of language enough to know what you're doing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:17 PM
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81. "A person who is physically weak and ineffectual" first definition. how i defined word
always. and as you know, i haev already stated this. when people said it was a combination i said wouldnt use it anymore. didnt know. i learned. wont use.

how hard it that trumad. oh ya, much easier to be dishonest in your post
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:53 PM
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22. You're absolutely right! He should have used the word "skank"
The "K" sound is always funny.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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27. Another slang word I heard for that part of the anatomy was...
"kittywampus". For real!
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
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29. People, quit acting like a bunch of twats.
:eyes:
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:56 PM
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31. .
:spray:
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM
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33. Thanks. I saw that and was annoyed that Matt
was so juvenile in the choice of his adjective.

To reduce anyone to a sexual part is demeaning.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM
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34. Perfectly fine words to be used in everyday conversation.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 02:59 PM by RC
fagot also faggot n. 1. A bundle of twigs, sticks, or branches bound together.
2. A bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded or hammered into bars.


retard v. retarded retarding retards v. tr. 1. To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede. v. intr. 1. To be delayed. See note at delay . n. 1. A slowing down or hindering of progress; a delay. 2. Music A slackening of tempo.


pussy 1 n. pl. pussies 1. Informal A cat. 2. Botany A fuzzy catkin, especially of the pussy willow.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
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45. it's pronounced "re-TARD" n/t

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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:07 PM
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61. And if you go back in time to when that word was less offensive
You use a "reTARDIS."
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:12 PM
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70. My html-tagged quote attribution got dropped.
There was supposed to be a </Galifianakis> on the end of that subject line. It's what I hear in my head every time I hear the word with the accent on the first syllable now. :hi:

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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #45
74. Or in its Italian form, often seen on scores
ritardando.
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:59 PM
Original message
Oh quit being such a....
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:59 PM
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37. What about lunkhead?
or dicknose?
or fuckin fuckety fuck fuckface?
or sugar tits?


Swing low sweet chariot!
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM
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40. But I like pussy, we should all let it go....nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:48 PM
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143. I like pussy, too.


I WAS TALKING ABOUT HER CAT!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:00 PM
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41. Why can't they use "wimp"--- multi-purpose, gender neutral...
:shrug:
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
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44. I agree. It's not an accurate slur, and it's just better not to use those words.
The word in question infers that women are weak and submissive and that the person being called the slur is therefore being called a weak and submissive woman as an insult

That's why I find it offensive.

And to anyone that disagrees with me,

Wanna step outside and discuss it further?!?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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48. The unrec assholes are out!
:puke:
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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50. Get over it. Context and offensiveness is decided by mainstream society, not you.
And in our society at the moment, a lot of the words such as the one you mentioned do not have a widely recognized misogynist context. Its just like white people, black people and the N word. It is widely recognized, in our society, as offensive for a white person to use the N word and not offensive for a black person to. Some people don't agree with that, but as a mainstream rule of communication, thats just how it is.

Words and what they mean, in action is a lot more complicated than what those words mean by definition. You can't and shouldn't expect everyone to conform to your sensitivities about every word thats out there.

This word police stuff is damn near religious in nature.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #50
55. And apparently by the DU community as well
based on the unrecs.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:08 PM
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63. This thread brings out the inner 7 year old who likes to giggle at naughty words.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:46 PM
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139. People are rarely using words like that to "giggle". Most of the time, its anger & disdain.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:33 PM
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109. Bingo. Context is everything
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:43 PM by hifiguy
And attempts to micro-analyze things outside of the context in which they were intended to be taken is intellectual wankery no matter who does it or when it is done.

See post 112 - which puts this into, well, context.

Edited for reference to the aforementioned post.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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51. Don't expect a real answer here...
too many people who think they are clever. Bell Hooks is one of the best authors on the interconnectedness of Racism, Sexism, Classism and Homophobia.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:12 PM
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69. Thanks, I'll look into her literary works.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:47 PM by raccoon

edited for clarity.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:41 PM
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126. THAT is a sexist comment!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:07 PM
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58. last night, baseball field, 3 16 yr old calling to a girl they knew to meet up with them.
she was a pretty girl, and huge smile as the guy are yelling at her (she was a distance away) sarah, sarah, you are coming arent you. come on, sarah. come..... then it hit them ... cum. giggle giggle. it became sexual when really just guys wanting this girl to hang out with them. the minute it turned sexual one boy yells out.... you are such a whore. no rythym, no reason. just out of his mouth. and he starts gigglin, i called her a whore, giggle some more.

her face fell. no more smile. she put head down and headed off as the guys giggle

when our reporters, our media make this language a norm in society.... instead of shameful, this is what we create.

it made me sad for all those involved because it was really cute to watch for a while.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:07 PM
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59. It's sexist AND stupid. He's usually better than that. n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:24 PM
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89. To be honest, I was not offended.
But, after reading this and other threads, I would offer that Taibbi should be a bit more thoughtful in his word choices in order not to have his excellent work ignored.

Cheers to you EFerrari!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:26 PM
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92. He does great work.
This stuff is an occupational hazard, that's all. :)
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:07 PM
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60. Yeah, sorry, but no it isn't...
...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:11 PM
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67. I disagree.
I'm glad Rolling Stone does not censor their writers. It's a perfect term for the teabaggers because that's exactly what they are.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:14 PM
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72. Do you also tell people they throw like girls and drive live women?
Good grief.
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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:19 PM
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83. I guess you are not a Quentin Tarantino fan
Ever see Kill Bill?

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:43 PM
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131. Actually, after Reservoir Dogs, I dislike his movies. I liked Pulp Fiction the 1st time I saw it
but changed my mind after seeing it a second time.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:24 PM
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88. PussyWampus
Sorry! Had to say it!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:42 PM
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127. Made me laugh!
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:45 PM
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136. Whew!
That's what I was going for! And by the way, I agree with the gist of your post. I've refrained from using the term as a pejorative since high school.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:25 PM
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91. I hesitate to ask what wampus means in conjuction with kitty.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:26 PM
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94. This thread is totally retarded. It takes total balls to say that.
Make sure you're thinking with the proper head.

And don't be a dick or act in a dickish manner or you'll induce a pissing match, which always devolves into determing who has a bigger schlong.

etc, etc, etc.

I don't use the offensive "p" word in my posts, but the double standards invoked by many who are overly sensitive is more than slightly irritating.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:26 PM
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95. I think Richard Pryor used all those words. I never found him offensive
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:27 PM by OmahaBlueDog
I found him hilarious.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:27 PM
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96. Or TEA BAGGER.
ooops.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:29 PM
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103. Meow.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:31 PM
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106. "Blazing Saddles" is still my favorite movie. n/t
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:33 PM
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As long as I can call still republicans a "bastard pieces of shit" I'm fine
No insult intended toward fecal fetishists
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:38 PM
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115. You had better watch out with "bastard" around here.
I'm OK with it, but SOMEone will take offense. This is DU after all.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:33 PM
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110. No, it's not. n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:33 PM
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111. Sexist and immature to use that term. Incredible how many even here that condone sulrs.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:34 PM
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112. Pussy = scaredy cat
That's the usage when I was growing up, and I still "hear" that meaning when the word is used. :shrug: I know today that it has another, sexual meaning, but Taibbi was clearly using it to call the baggers cowards. I agree with that usage.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20sc...

Pussy

1. Could imply Vagina"
2. Could imply "Cat"
3. Could imply "coward"

Note: when referring to someone as a "pussy" cowardly meaning is derived from def.2 as in "scaredy cat". Calling someone a "Vagina" does not make sense. Calling someone a "scaredy cat" does. Common miscommunication that results in A LOT of angered women.

1. I went to a strip club, for my 18th birthday, and could see her entire pussy; best birthday yet.

2. The pussy cat was chased up a tree by a dog

3. Your parent's won't let you go to the party? Oh come on man quit, being a pussy, and sneak out anyways.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:41 PM
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125. I agree, pussy could easily refer to acting scared/cowardly
Cats are often very timid - and they scare and scatter easily.
Hence the term "Scaredy Cat".

Given the popular usage of the term "Pussy Cat"...
Using "pussy" as a pejorative could very easily be insulting someone for being cowardly.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:40 PM
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122. taibbi is not a "liberal" writer
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 03:45 PM by BOG PERSON
he's a self-styled gonzo journalist. i don't know how successful he is as a Writer - personally i find his style obnoxious - but he is a sincere and competent journalist.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:42 PM
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128. AND SO IS CALLING PEOPLE "DOUCHEBAG"
SORRY FOR THE YELLING BUT I AM SICK AND TIRED OF IT!
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:45 PM
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137. The term is common on DU. You are the only one who's made an issue about it.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:47 PM
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141. Actually, that's not true.
It could be that there has been a change of policy, but not too long ago, calling someone that was enough to bring the mods swooping in.
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:43 PM
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130. It's sexist,
but not for the reason you gave. When used as an insult the word has a well-established history of meaning "behaves like a cat." it's sexist because of the connection between the supposedly "weak" cat (though I think they're quite mighty animals, I'm a cat guy) and the stereotype of women as weak, fragile, flighty. They're not literally calling the person a vagina. It's sexist because it reinforces icky gender roles, like if one guy called another "effeminate."

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Shrek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:45 PM
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135. 007 begs to differ
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Moondog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:47 PM
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140. This whole speech code thing has gone waaaaay too far.
Enough already. It is way past becoming a self-parody, and is entering the realm of the truly pathetic.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:48 PM
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142. Context:
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:49 PM
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144. George Carlin would likely have a few words about this.....
When someone says Pussy the first thing that comes to my mind isn't a woman or a vagina, because I happen to like both of those things (particularly together!), but I think of a quivering wimp. Someone that doesn't have the fortitude to stand up and put their money where their mouth is.

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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:54 PM
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153. Seven to be exact
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:53 PM
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150. You are being too sensitive
Guy's generally don't have a problem with the use of vulgar terms that refer to their genitalia, even when used as a pajorative. You should follow our lead.

As I've told my wife, there is no male equivalent to the C word, at least none that I can think of. "Pussy" is mild by comparison
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:54 PM
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151. Here's a source for creative, Stewie Griffin style insults
The Elizabethan Insult: http://www.museangel.net/insult.html
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Modern_Matthew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:54 PM
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152. I don't find words offensive. I find the context in which they're used offensive. nt
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:54 PM
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154. The word "pussy", as an insult, doesn't refer to the female anatomy.
The using "pussy" as an insult is centuries old, and evolved from the old English insult "pursey", which meant "fat and weak". The Americanized version dropped the "r" by the late 1800's, and the additional meaning of "cowardly" was added sometime in the 1900's...as in "scared as a PUSSYcat".

Yes, Pussy also refers to the female anatomy, but the two terms are unrelated...they're homonyms. Like bank (as in edge of the river) and bank (as in place that steals your money), or left (as in hand) or left (as in "didn't take with"). There is no etymological connection between the two, except in the minds of those who insist on being offended.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:57 PM
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156. They are not unrelated in popular culture which is what matters
since we have no Old Englishmen walking around any more. :)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:56 PM
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155. I swear half of DU is still stuck in the '60s or '70s.
And what that half is showing me is that at day's end they think of women as juvenile joke fodder.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:57 PM
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157. I've always associated the word with a kitty-cat when someone uses it
to portray others as not tough enough or weak. I've never even thought of it being used in a misogynistic way. 'Stubborn as an ox' .... ' a real pitbull, weasel', whatever. Maybe I've just been too naive.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:59 PM
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158. Here's DU's standard, from our "rules" page -
Bigotry and Broad-Brush Smears

When discussing race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, or other highly-sensitive personal issues, please exercise the appropriate level of sensitivity toward others and take extra care to clearly express your point of view.

Do not post messages that are bigoted against (or grossly insensitive toward) any person or group of people based on their race, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, religion, lack of religion, disability, physical characteristics, or region of residence.

While specific words are not automatically forbidden, members should avoid using racist, sexist, homophobic, or otherwise bigoted terminology. This includes gender-specific terms such as "cunt," "whore," "slut," "skank," or "pussy," and terms with homophobic derivation, such as "cocksucker," which are often inflammatory and inappropriate. A common exception that is permitted is the use of words like "whore" or "prostitute" in cases where public figures or the media do favors. (For example: "Fox News is whoring for the GOP again" or "Tom DeLay is a prostitute for corporate interests.")


Your comments may be more effective if addressed with Rolling Stone directly. They published the Tiabbi article. Thanks.

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