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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:44 PM
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Fukushima: A Month of Media Disinformation
Today marks exactly a month since the nuclear power disaster in Japan began. Along with the ongoing discharges of radioactivity from the Fukushima nuclear plant complex, there has been a largely outrageous flow of media coverage.

Brian Williams on NBC Nightly News on April 6th asked a good question: "And what about all that water, the many million gallons of it, highly radioactive, dumped in the Pacific Ocean for days on end--and we've all been told it will dissipate. But how can this not be harmful?" he queried correspondent Miguel Almaguer.

The question might have been good but the response to it, Almaguer's report, was far from that. He presented a talking head expert, Luca Centurioni of Scripps Institution of Oceanography, who said: "No, there is no immediate danger." (Centurioni's background, according to his resume posted on the Internet, reflects no background in radioactivity.)

"The bottom line," said Almaguer, "experts are in agreement there's no threat to our water or our food." He added: "And as you can see Brian, California's coastline is as beautiful as ever." Radioactivity, of course, is invisible.

http://mathaba.net/news/?x=626416
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:51 PM
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1. Nadin...perhaps you can give an explanation...
This thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Where it's stated that the levels of radiation in the ground water at the nuke plant is rising; what is their definition of ground water?

Is groundwater not water that is located beneath the surface not just in a basement level of a building?

I'm so confused that I had to look for a typical definition of groundwater: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groundwater

If the definition is correct and it applies to the nuke plant, than what else am I to conclude that this contamination is actually going underground and has contaminated the water UNDER that ground. And, it's not like TEPCO's ground water is a separate entity from Japan's ground water, right?

Sorry for all the chatter but I'm trying hard to understand these (sometimes) twisted statements coming out of Japan.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:56 PM
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2. The best way to do this is with pictures
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 01:00 PM by nadinbrzezinski


The blue on that, where the artesian well is dug into is the ground water.

Oh and should add, it SHOULD flow towards the sea, not towards Tokyo. So contamination of all of this means 1\3 or the country will be uninhabitable... quite worst than oh Chernobyl.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:04 PM
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3. Damn
That's frightening
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:07 PM
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4. Well looking at the graphic, there's a huge problem developing
as if what's happening now isn't bad enough. How much longer can this remain a local problem.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:09 PM
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5. And due to land grade it SHOULD be going to sea
I have yet to find a GOOD hydrological map of japan. Some countries believe this is part of national security.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:12 PM
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6. That'd be good if you can find one. I tried googling Japan water tables
and didn't really come up with anything helpful enough for what I wanted to know.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:32 PM
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7. Nuclear meltdown happened the first day.
But I was always happy to see posts repeating TEPCO's assurance of nothing really happened televised by NHK. I mean, it must have been true, it was on television, and those people managed the plants ...

"It was just the outer wall ..."
"We're going to cool it with sea water ..."
"Might try some helicopters ..."
"The police just came with water throwers ..."
"We flood it with, well, stuff ..."
"We got some volunteers ..."
"It's just a little fire ..."
"We have it back online in just a week ..."
"Chernobyl? Those were Russians ..."
"Ooops, we lost a little bit of power again, but we have Duracell batteries ..."
"Our CEO just collapsed, we're now concentrating on this emergency ..."

And so on in infinity.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:35 PM
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10. Face, that is what you were watching
by the way... I know the head of tepco ended up in the hospital. Has his death been confirmed? I lost track. Speaking of face and honor.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:48 PM
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13. I didn't watch this, if you mean NHK.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:34 PM
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8. More good news
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
Europeans warned to avoid drinking milk or eating vegetables due to high radiation levels


Mike Adams
Natural News

"The radiation risk from Fukushima is "no longer negligable," says CRIIRAD, the French research authority on radioactivity. It is now warning expectant mothers and young children to avoid drinking milk or rainwater. They should also avoid certain types of vegetables and cheese due to the dangerously high levels of radiation they may contain thanks to the radioactive fallout spreading across the globe (http://www.euractiv.com/en/health/r ...).

CRIIRAD now says that eating these items qualifies as "risky behavior." And yet, in practically the same sentence, the organization claims there is "absolutely no need" for anyone to take iodine tablets.

That's right: There's so much radiation in the food that you probably shouldn't eat it. But all that radiation is so harmless that you don't need to protect yourself from it with iodine. It's amazing how these people think they can have it both ways.

The institute goes on to say that drinking rainwater might be dangerous, but standing in the rain is perfectly safe. There's actually some sense to this, as ingesting radioactive water is indeed far more dangerous than merely being drenched in it. But U.S. nuclear authorities make no such distinction, by the way.

Here comes the mass irradiation of the food supply..."


http://www.activistpost.com/2011/04/europeans-warned-to...


Don't worry, it's only low levels of radiation, or so says our governments and their agencies. What they always fail to mention is that this is ongoing, even though according to most MSM it no longer exists, and that there is no solution in sight, and that if these small doses of "harmless," radiation continue for months or years, that radiation does not go away once a human body absorbs it. It stays there for a long, long, time. Even longer than that body lives. Even when dead the corpse remains radioactive. That is why they are leaving over 1,000 corpses within the evacuation area around the plant to rot. They have not devised a safe way to dispose of these radioactive corpses.

Nice thoughts to think on a sunny California spring day.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:36 PM
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11. Well they COULD dispose of those bodies
it's just NOT cheap. Lead lined caskets, yep, joyful thoughts indeed.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:51 PM
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16. Do you think they could pay enough money
to have people actually do that?

I wouldn't want to handle them, even if it was to put them in lead lined caskets.

Just sayin'

They are leaving them there because no one wants to risk getting too near to them. Can't blame them.




"...Me, I'm waiting so patiently
Lying on the floor
I'm just trying to do my jig-saw puzzle
Before it rains anymore..."

Jagger/Richards


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:49 PM
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21. And this is why when the HC did their
this is what happens if DC gets nuked we had a hysterical laugh round these parts. Body disposal teams... that was a funny.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:34 PM
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9. I am wondering what happened to posters who used to post updates about good news from Fukushima
Called us liars and now they are no where to be found.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:37 PM
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12. You know I don't expect apologies
nor to see them right now, nor do I care at this point. But some people will claim you are dredging old issues, so be careful there.
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robdogbucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:48 PM
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14. Nadin, welcome back
hope you got enough rest and can now continue posting again.

We need your voice here.

I monitor these source daily for news about Fukushima that will not be found on our corporate controlled media outlets.

http://fucorporatemedia.com /

http://www.fairewinds.com/updates

http://www.theoildrum.com /




Carry on, regardless



"...Me, I'm waiting so patiently
Lying on the floor
I'm just trying to do my jig-saw puzzle
Before it rains anymore..."

Jagger/Richards






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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:26 PM
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19. Thanks and those are good places
Just don't expect me to post much of MY VIEWS... that is dredging old matters
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:51 PM
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15. k&r. I am glad that varied universities are monitoring the radiation that gets to USA
It is difficult to know who or what to trust, very difficult. Hey Nadin, thanks for posting this.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:54 PM
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17. "Experts Agree"...Yikes!!
Translated to the 20st century meant: "Take Heed"

Translated to the 21st century means: "Jack Squat"
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:03 PM
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18. K&R
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:37 PM
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20. "No, there is no IMMEDIATE danger." needs a translation
what this means really is "You're not going to die from this today,
look! you're not dead are you? ... and never-mind about tomorrow.
Trust us, Everything will work out somehow. Just don't think about it".
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