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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:39 AM
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Matt Tiabbi: "not so much that Tea Partiers are racists, but more that they're tremendous pussies".
2) The point about the Republicans was not that they were responsible for these loans, but that their rhetoric about spending is so preposterously dishonest. The entire narrative of the Tea Party paints a picture of government as a monstrous machine for redistributing wealth from the middle class to the undeserving poor. It is almost completely silent when it comes to stories like this TALF business, which are about redistributing money to the undeserving rich. If these loans had been given to ACORN or to minority homeowners, you can bet this story would be circulating on every conservative news station this morning. But since the recipients are rich white people from Manhattan, the Tea Party is simply not all that interested/outraged.

My own personal view on this is not so much that Tea Partiers are racists, but more that they're tremendous pussies. They have no problem puffing out their chests and screaming bloody murder about Mexicans or single black Moms taking their tax money for emergency room care or school lunches. But when John and Christy Mack rob them to buy mansions on the Upper East side, you suddenly can't find a Tea Partier within a thousand miles -- can't find one with the Hubble space telescope. For all their bluster and aggressiveness, billionaires make them go weak in the knees. Which makes it very hard to take them seriously.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/mai...
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:41 AM
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1. well, the media certainly seems to take them seriously
"Reports" from the Tea Party front lines every other day it seems like
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:59 PM
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171. seriously and ratings are two very different things. nt
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:41 AM
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2. Many indeed are racists.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 08:48 AM by marmar
nt

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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:45 AM
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24. I haven't met one who isn't.
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:20 PM
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156. Me neither
Their suddenly-discovered "outrage" is a pathetically thin disguise.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:44 AM
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3. pussies? it was necessary to equate the female with a bunch of baggers? tiabbi is a dick
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 08:47 AM by seabeyond
bet he felt all manly as he declares baggers are pussies. got a little tingling up his leg, all bold.

fuck him

on edit... puffing out their chest? i was thinking the same with him. go on rolling stone so to be cool uses pussies. seems like he is trying for that manly man image. what a wuss
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:56 AM
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7. I'm confused here, you are berating him for using the word
"pussie" but then you call him a "wuss", what is the difference? :shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:59 AM
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8. weak without sexual connotation by definition. nothing to do with female. nt
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:08 AM
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10. wuss......
noun
Slang . a weakling; wimp.

Origin:
198085; perhaps blend of wimp and puss

Based on the Random House Dictionary, Random House, Inc. 2011.


n , pl wusses , wussies
slang chiefly ( US ) a feeble or effeminate person



Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition





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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:13 AM
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14. A person who is physically weak and ineffectual. Often a male person with low courage factor. nt
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:25 AM
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21. slang chiefly ( US ) a feeble or effeminate person..n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:26 AM
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22. i used it in the "feeble" definition. . nt
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:27 AM by seabeyond
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:51 AM
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29. It's all well and good that you intended that way, but is that how other people heard it? I know
I didn't hear it that way. In your case, as well as Taibbi's, there are so many, much better words.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:52 AM
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30. as i said below, i never defined word that way. now that i am told, i wont do again. think men
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:52 AM by seabeyond
will stop using pussy so they can feel like men in other mens eyes, at the expense of women? not a chance in hell. too important to APPEAR like a man, for other men, than actually be a man.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:03 AM
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32. Well the way I look at them when they do stuff like that is the same way I look at
shit on the bottom of my shoe.
The point I was making is it doesn't do well for a female to call out a male for using the word pussie and then use the word wuss in the call out. It makes her look like a hypocrite. I am glad you will refrain from using it from now on.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:34 AM
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51. Face---you were called on your hypocrisy.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:39 AM
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54. post 14. definition. what i had always thought word meant. it is in definition.
where is the hypocrisy in that?

then

once enough made clear other definition of the word, i won it. and refuse to use it again

again

where is the hypocrisy in that?

unlike those that excuse the use of pussy and will continue to use it cause it fluffs their male ego to insult women
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:54 PM
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145. Regarding threadjacking...
Is it threadjacking just because a conversation did not go in the precise direction you wanted it to go?

You're the Central Planner of DU conversations?

In real life, there are "threadjackers" everywhere. People get off on tangents. It happens. We're human.

Unlike in a real-life, face-to-face conversation, the great thing about a message board like DU is that YOU DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE TANGENT. You can't just turn your back on a person IRL that's off-subject (not speaking about what YOU want to discuss); that'd be rude. In a thread, you can just ignore the sub-thread, and jump down to a section more to your liking.

(I didn't get to post this in your call-out thread before it got locked.)
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:39 PM
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159. this is the very definition of a threadjack...
threadjackers are douchebags and yes---they are in everyday life.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:56 PM
Response to Reply #159
168. So ignore and move on. Take your own advice:
Get a life.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #159
170. This wouldn't be happening if you could use the old block function.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:20 PM
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155. Trumad, you know damned well you put "pussies" in the thread title to get a reaction.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 02:21 PM by KittyWampus
You could have easily picked out another quote or used the actual title "Mailbag: Republicans Are Only Too Happy To Spend -- On the Rich".

But you didn't.


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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #155
164. Yeah---I knew that 3 or 4 dumbasses whould jump in this thread
and shit in it.

Get a life.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:31 PM
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157. madmom, please place things in context.
Taibbi did not use the word "pussies" because he wanted to insult women, but rather because he wanted to throw a word common among a certain class of Tea-Bagger type men right back at them. He was adopting their language. He probably doesn't use the word to mean what he used it to mean with regard to the Tea-Baggers in his normal life.

Don't exaggerate.

Read Taibbi's Griftopia and then think about whether you should be so offended by this.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:48 AM
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65. Wuss is the kind of word you use when you're in the car and you know your parents won't tolerate...
real vulgarity. It's like saying "freakin" or "friggin" instead of "fuckin".

Then again some would argue that the p-word is hedge from the c-bomb.



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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:16 AM
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16. Tell you what, I'll berate him for using the word 'pussies' without calling him a wuss.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:16 AM
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18. i agree with you. i should take it back. tired of the little dick men acting all macho
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:19 AM by seabeyond
in certain environments to seem cool at the womans expense.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:43 AM
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60. For Christ's sake....
I cannot take you seriously when you feign offense at the use of the term "pussies"; only to turn around call someone a "wuss" and then talk about freaking penis size a moment later!

Either you want sexualizing terminology out of the discussion or you don't; but pick a fucking side of the fence already...
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:28 AM
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91. Really, calling someone a pussie=bad, but calling someone a dick=ok?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:42 PM
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142. Given that women are
the 'sex class' and the dudes/dicks set the rules and benefit from the rules, I don't see much wrong with calling a dude a 'dick.' It's not that bad. I have friends named 'Richard' and they go by the name, 'Dick.' 'Pussy' and "wuss" on the other hand are directed at women to demean and oppress them.

Matt could simply have used the word, COWARD. Is that too much to ask of a progressive journalist?

The worst thing you can call a dude is ANYTHING FEMININE OR RELATED TO THE FEMALE BODY.

Like women don't have to listen this crap IRL all the time.

Shit. Matt should know better. And if he doesn't, shame on him.
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zentrum Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:17 PM
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154. You're right!
And even the word "wussie" came into use as a way to say "pussy" in public. Everybody knows that "pussy" is a quasi affectionate/pejorative but always condescending way to refer to female anatomy.

It's ridiculous for Taibbi to make his point using this sexist term. His headline, decoded, reads: "Teabaggers aren't racist--they're sexist, really, just like me."
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howaboutme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:07 AM
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9. It was just an expression
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:08 AM by howaboutme
......just like "life is a bitch". How many times have we seen politicians and the media diverting attention from the real issue (that may negatively affect their cohorts) to the small stuff?

Taibbi is one of the few in the media who have the guts and chutzpah to even attempt to stir up the huddled masses against the financial elite such as Goldman that own this country and our politicians. It can not only be bad for careers, but downright dangerous. (RIP George Carlin) Nobody but nobody in the media is mentioning the banksters and the travesty that put us in this situation. That should be the question we ask our politicians and the media. Why do these guys (and girls) get immunity from public and press attention?

Was "Inside Job" the only token expose to be given public attention by the PTB?

The Tea Party needs to look at trade, unfair taxes where a wage earner pays more as a percent of taxes than a billionaire, our wars, why we have a war on terror, corruption by the rich, the harm that the bankers and Wall Street actually do, the Fed, etc ---- but they've been hijacked too. For a start we need to demand a return to the tax rates of the 50s when this country was powerful and we accomplished things, instead of a nation that is run not for Americans but for globalists, international bankers and corporations and a caste of elite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:10 AM
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11. it is little dick syndrome trying to prove he is bigger than what he is
he wants to be all cool with rolling stones, he can look the fool. it is not "just an expression". he and every man know what they are doing when they chose pussy.

he probably stuttered over the word like a little child experimenting with cussing and doing it poorly.

it is the man grabbing crotch to make sure it is still there.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:18 AM
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40. Oh for Heavens sake
If anything, it's an insult to cats. And I'm a woman. It's just a word and you clutching your pearls about it and taking over this thread is ridiculous.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:19 AM
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43. right. he was talking cats. nt
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:25 AM
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45. And if he wasn't?
So fucking what?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:28 AM
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46. so fucking what? people should just roll over with this sexist crap. hey... racist and homophobic
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:28 AM by seabeyond
names are fine, too.

bullshit.

gonna be a sexist fucker, i am going to be outraged with the sexist fucker. he knew exactly what he was doing when he choose the word. enable the sexist fuckers....
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #46
68. Oy vey
Enjoy your outrage - which I suspect you already do.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:52 PM
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132. thanks
this place just fucking boggles my mind at times...........

and they ARE Pussies!! With a capital "P".k

Other "P" words come to mind as well.
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Wait Wut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:13 PM
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152. ++++++++++++1
As a woman I am not offended by anyone calling teapers pussies. I doubt my cats would care, either. This is an idiotic argument.

But, for the record...I don't agree that teapers are pussies. They're definitely assholes. A "pussy" is something warm and inviting that helps to produce little people. An asshole is full of crap and full of hot air.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:40 PM
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162. And this is merely an insult to farmers.
And this is merely an insult to farmers, and to deny is simply clutching pearls... :shrug:

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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:57 PM
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169. Sorry - I don't get the connection at all
This was obviously a racist picture. I don't think Taibbi was looking to insult women at all (or cats for that matter).
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:04 AM
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79. It doesn't bother me and I am a woman also. Matt Taibbi
has more guts than everyone in the MSM put together. Also, in Europe the word 'pussy' means 'cat'.

To get hung up over a single word and ignore the entire issue he is talking about, makes women look silly.

As Shakespeare said 'what's in a word? A rose by any other name would smell as sweet'.

Sometimes people go way overboard with this kind of thing.

There is no way Matt Taibbi could be described as anti-women, no way.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:08 AM
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81. and for a black to bothered with n*gger and gay to be bothered with f*g, really
they just look silly.

the man is a profession and chose his word purposefully. his intent was to feminize as weak. play a game and be enabler, is your choice.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:26 AM
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86. The word has been misused by those trying to
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:28 AM by sabrina 1
insult women. Lots or words are hi-jacked by illiterates who can't think of enough ways to hurl insults at the objects of their hatreds.

pussy < pssee >
cat: an affectionate word used for or to address a cat
furry flower: a furry hanging flower catkin of the pussy willow or other tree
taboo term: a highly offensive term for the vulva
Synonyms: cat, puss, pussycat, kitty, kitten, moggy


It is also said to come from the word 'pusillanimous':

It has been informally suggested in folk etymology that it is a shortened form of the word "pusillanimous", which comes from Latin words meaning "tiny spirit" and is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "showing a lack of courage or determination" or cowardly.


The word has many meanings, but to me, it always meant 'kitty cat'. Just because some people choose to use it to insult women, doesn't mean they own the word.

Matt Taibbi's meaning is clear to me. He is accusing teabaggers of being weak little pussycats who see themselves as lions.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:27 AM
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90. people keep bringing this up as if it matter. pussy is used for one reason
and one reason only. every single person on the board and the user is well aware. why are we pretending otherwise.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:31 AM
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95. Well I'm not pretending, and unless someone makes a
big deal over it, it always has and always will mean 'little kitty cat' to me. I am aware of its other use, but I don't let it influence me unless the person using is clearly trying to be insulting.

Since I know Matt Taibbi's position on women's rights, it didn't even cross my mind that he meant anything other than 'a weak little kitten desperately trying to be a lion'.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #95
97. you dont think he was clearly trying to be offensive to the baggers? tht was his whole point
in using the word
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #97
100. Yes I do.


That is what they are. Little pussy cats who hilariously think they are big lions fighting to 'take our country back' ...... to the dark ages when women could not vote, and children worked in factories rather than go to school and minorities 'knew their place' etc. etc.

I think he made the point very well. I'm sorry, seabeyond, I just don't see it the way you do. The picture is how I see the word in the context in which he used it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:43 AM
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104. wow... on the one hand you chose to point to women being taken to dark ages in defending a man
using patriarchal language to accomplish that.

i am off to a shower and plant some flowers. our ability to allow denigration of female when we chose and fght it when we chose is not someothing i can switch back and forth to, easily.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #104
134. The man is not using patriarchal language.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 01:04 PM by sabrina 1
He is using a word that has many meanings and I don't jump to conclusions about people so quickly and assume their intentions, especially when,

1) I know the person's thinking on a particular subject, and

2) Since the word has several meanings, it would be kneejerk of me to jump to the conclusion that there is only one way the word can be used and then falsely accuse someone of being something they are not.

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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #90
144. You're arguing this point on at least 5 different subthreads. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #9
17. And calling someone a retard is just an expression.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #9
102. faggot and retard are also "just expressions".
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:10 AM
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12. Maybe this is what Tiabbie meant?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:12 AM
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13. he tried to look like a man for rolling stones and failed..... nt
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:17 AM
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19. Who's equating anything with a female?
I guess there's never a bad time to be outraged, right? If you care to educate yourself, here's a bit of the etymology of the word pussy as it equates to weakness:


The meaning "weak or cowardly person" has a separate etymology. Websters 1913 Revised Unabridged Dictionary lists this version of pussy as an alternate spelling of "pursy", an otherwise obsolete English word meaning "fat and short-breathed; fat, short, and thick; swelled with pampering ..."<1> The interpretation is often misconstrued, as it contains multiple meanings which some consider derogatory.<2> In fact, when pussy appears in the earlier 1828 edition of the dictionary, this definition is presented for the word, while the older pursy is simply offered as a "corrupt orthography".

Pursy (pronounced with a short u, and with the r slurred or silent) was in turn derived from an Old French word variously spelled pourcif, poulsif, poussif, meaning "to push, thrust, or heave". In this sense, it is cognate with the modern French verb pousser, also meaning "to push".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #3
23. Wuss?
that's a word combination of wimp and pussy.

Now what were you saying again?

:eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #23
25. post 14. the definition i always knew it by. BUT... now that i know
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 09:48 AM by seabeyond
per you all, i will be sure not to use it again. see how easy that is. think guys that understand the offensiveness of pussy are going to stop using it? or is it too important for them to appear manly thru other mens eyes, at the expense of women?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #25
35. wow, you told me.
:eyes:

I really enjoyed the part about how you liked the rest of his article.

An normal person would have stated that, while I find that word offensive, the article was insightful.

But alas, obcessing on a single word and ignorning the body of the work is self indulgent ego.

And thus you successfully hi-jacked a thread.

Cheers to you. :)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #35
36. when a reporter, a professional, starts out with deragatory word about female to insult others
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:15 AM by seabeyond
all that he says doesnt matter. he has wasted any energy speaking. any knowledge, any information, any education is lost. what a fuckin waste of his time. would behoove him, if he wants to be heard, to be professional.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:33 AM
Response to Reply #36
50. It's obvious you want the last word. You may have it.
I don't care.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #50
114. K&R
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:55 AM by Vinnie From Indy
Cheers!

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #36
140. YOU found it derogotory. I am tired of
people speaking for me as a woman. I and other women in this thread have told you they did not find his use of the word offensive. Speak for yourself please.

We are not all so delicate that we have to grab the smelling salts and run for the couch and ignore major issues because of a perceived insult to our sensibilities.

This makes women look weak. His meaning is clear to those who are not looking for a way to be offended.



Teabaggers = pussies who think they are lions.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #140
141. +1 nt
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #140
153. +2 n/t
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #140
172. Well put Sabrina
If anything makes women look weak it's letting a word give them a fit of the vapors.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #3
33. Isn't "dick" a pejorative term for men? Is that OK when pussies isn't?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. if men have such fragile egos they must demean women in front of their buddies to feel like a man
to ensure there dick is still there, not my problem. he puts it out in front of the world. maybe men ought to have more confidence and feel more secure in their manhood that they dont have to resort to insulting a female to feel worthy of their buddies.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:17 AM
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39. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #3
44.  was it coined to describe women or did it come to mean that...
And wuss is a "cleaned up" variant of pussy... it used to be wussy then wuss... so I'm not getting your point (no body part pun intended) as you are essentially saying the same thing as Matt Tiabbi.

etymology (from Wikipedia):

The origins of the word are unknown. The Oxford English Dictionary (OED) says that the word puss is common to several Germanic languages, usually as a call name for the cat not a synonym for cat, as it is in English.

The Oxford English Dictionary and Webster's Third International Dictionary point out similarities with words including:

Old Norse, pūss (pocket)
Old Saxon pūse (vulva)
Old English pusa (bag)


The medieval French word pucelle referred to a young adolescent girl or a virgin, although this comes from a slang term for virginity puce (= flea) rather than referring to cats (but cf. French chatte (female cat), a current vulgarism for the female genitalia). In the 17th century, the term was also used to refer to women in general. Philip Stubbs, an English pamphleteer, wrote in his 1583 book "The Anatomie of Abuses" that "the word pussie is now used of a woman".

It has been informally suggested in folk etymology that it is a shortened form of the word "pusillanimous", which comes from Latin words meaning "tiny spirit" and is defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "showing a lack of courage or determination" or cowardly. Though this meaning would seem to be consistent with the intention of the word "pussy" when used as an insult toward a man, it is a false cognate unrelated to the Germanic derivations of puss and pussy.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #3
88. Right... because women never use words that
people might find offensive.


Tiabbi is one of the best things liberals have going for them. You want to throw him under the bus because he called a tea bagger a pussy?

LMAO... you do realize that when you do finally get rid of everyone who does something you don't like, you will be standing alone.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #88
92. rah sexism. lets now cheer racism and homophobia. nt
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #92
94. Yeah that's what I said.
:eyes:

Enjoy your pathetic man bashing. It suits you.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #3
107. OMG Overly dramatic much?? Grow up
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #107
108. a professional reporter that choses the word pussy.... ought to grow up. nt
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #3
113. Nice double standard.
Your argument would be stronger if you didn't call him a dick for using the word pussy. But since you did, I have to consider your argument hypocritical.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #113
115. meant to be. purposely.
duh.
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #115
118. Argument fail, then.
Make your point and be better than him if you disagree. Doing the exact thing you are decrying him for, intentional or not, reeks of hypocrisy and does nothing but damage your argument.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:12 PM
Response to Reply #118
138. a man choses deragatory comment about female to insult a man. they do it, to feel like a man
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 01:16 PM by seabeyond
they do it to feel like a man to their buddies. it is all about their penis. that is part of the equation adn discussion. men use those terms specifically to make themselves all that and put down female to put down the man.
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #3
150. back to the original point
it would be good if we stop using words referring to female genitalia to denote weakness, and words referring to male genitalia to denote strength.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:10 PM
Response to Reply #150
151. i agree. i think it would be a good thing, too.
thank you. lol
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #150
166. Now that is a reasonable response...
as opposed to someone else on this thread.
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mountainlion55 Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #3
165. lighten up!
f*&k him? F*%$king lighten up!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #3
173. Pussy CAT.
That's where that word comes from. Puss-puss, Puss-in-boots, etc.

It's taken on the connotation you're offended by, sure. But ORIGINALLY, it's a kitty-cat. It's in the dictionary!

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:48 AM
Response to Original message
4. big k and r
he's right...they're pussies. and i don't take offense to his use of the word.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:51 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. he uses it cause he is proving something for rolling stone. like pink tutu with moore cause
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 08:51 AM by seabeyond
talking to sexist maher. a bunch of hypocritical macho posturing in performance to who he is talking to, at the expense of women. but yea.... as long as you approve.

it is the most hillarious manly man puffing of chest from a wimp.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 08:53 AM
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6. They kind of are racists, but Taibbi knows that doesn't play well politically.

Let's just call them morons for believing that the poor caused the panic of 2008 and not the ultrarich.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:14 AM
Response to Original message
15. My dislike of Tiabbi justified yet again. Anyone using the word "pussies" is a case
of arrested development.

There is a universe of words other than "pussy" that could be descriptive and accurate.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. how many times have i listened to men on du recently state they are tired of the man up, has balls
comment.

but pussy, ...fine.
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:49 AM
Response to Original message
26. Whats new pussycat?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #26
28. little dick syndrome? oh no, nothing new there. nt
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #28
84. what is really disguisting, is that you use the same technique to try to shut down the dialogue.
and that i find more offensive than vulgar language.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:24 AM
Response to Reply #84
85. and my interpretation of why a male choses to denigrate a woman to insult a male
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:24 AM by seabeyond
is such. you find it offensive. you should. it is. how stupid, silly, fragile is the male ego that we must constantly listen to the jab at women to insult men.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:06 PM
Response to Reply #28
136. How do you know so much about dick sizes of these men?
Male porn stars, I think we can agree, tend to be rather well endowed. Do you think they never call anyone a pussy? Of course they do. Men of all dick sizes use the word. Maybe Matt is a totally secure, big dicked guy who just likes the word.

And he should pay me for that post lol. :P

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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #28
143. You've surely seen the etymological examples posted earlier right? Pussy is not always used in a

context relating to gender. I know "puss" is also used to mean "face" as in "sourpuss". And theres a children's story called "puss in boots" for crying out loud.

You're trying to paint Taibbi as a sexist/chauvinist, but you're trying too hard.

Theres a C word I won't repeat here that more closely fits the niche of the word you're accusing Taibbi of using. Had he used that word I'd agree with you.
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Fuddnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:03 PM
Response to Reply #143
148. Don't forget that character in the Soprano's!
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:50 AM
Response to Original message
27. I'd say hypocrites rather than pussies
Because from the start what these TPers have been doing has nothing to do with courage or boldness...
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 09:59 AM
Response to Original message
31. Recommended. EVERY WORD OF IT. recommend!!!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:16 AM
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37. "they're tremendous pussies"... I'm supposed to agree with this kind of label?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:17 AM by undeterred
What is wrong with male writers that they can't see what's wrong with using words like "pussy" and "douchebag" to insult people? Why are men still so insensitive to what is offensive in this day and age?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #37
41. beause he was talking to rolling stones, was much more important to feel like a man with his buddies
than to be professionally heard.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #41
75. it's rolling stone in the singular, and he fucking works for them
JFC
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:57 PM
Response to Reply #75
146. Yeah, don't drag the Rolling Stones into this...


Keef and Charlie are not amused.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:29 AM
Response to Reply #37
93. Like when Randi Rhodes called Hillary a "Big Fucking Whore"
Sometimes strong words are used to get a point across...

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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #93
131. Actually that was 'corporate whore'. (which I agree with Randi on)
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #131
147. Nope, "big fucking whore"
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #37
98. I do ~ describes them perfectly:
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:16 AM
Response to Original message
38. I think he's trying to make liberal ideas appealing to straight white guys.

Hence the "frat-boy" lingo.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. By appealing to their sexism?
No thanks.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:34 AM
Response to Reply #42
52. I'm not defending it, but Dems do have a hard time getting white male voters.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:35 AM by reformist2

I don't know the exact numbers, but I would imagine we probably get only about 25-30% of them, nationwide.
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fried eggs Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:29 AM
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47. Homophobic wording, not acceptable
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #47
116. pussy is homophobic?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 12:04 PM by snooper2
:eyes:

I thought it just tastes great less filling :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #116
161. You win the thread.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #161
167. +1.. lmao
:rofl:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #47
139. It's homophobic now? First it was anti-women!
:eyes:

Seriously, it is this kind of thing that gets liberals, and especially liberal women, a bad name. It's a word!!

I am glad I am a strong enough woman not to be bothered by words and to be able to discern, based on other factors, whether the word is being used as an insult to ME or not.

A whole thread about a serious subject taken up by a few people who are so overly sensitive about ONE WORD which has many meanings, that they completely ignore the far more important issue Taibbi is discussing.

Sensitive, hurt feelings over a word V the takeover of the entire country by a bunch of lunatics.

Again, this is why liberals are often not taken seriously.
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:30 AM
Response to Original message
48. Doesn't this belong in the "femminazi' forum?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:31 AM by elias49
Edit for spelling!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:32 AM
Response to Reply #48
49. or should we put it in the mens forum....? wtf? nt
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #49
53. Maybe...I just know it turns me on
when a woman gets her back up.
You know, like a cat does.(???)

FFFsssss!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #53
57. ha haha. that is funny.
thanks, needed a smile.....

men try, so hard. oh look

hard

giggle

rollin eyes
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #57
80. Damn. Now I have to go pay my tax bill...
just when things were getting fun.

But I'll keep that thought!
:loveya:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #80
82. lol
paying your talk bill will likely cause he opposite reaction....
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:41 AM
Response to Original message
55. It would be nice if someone wanted to discuss the substance
of the article that trumad thoughtfully linked to and the Taibbi article about TARP-related fraud. That is of some import in the greater world and actually quite interesting.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #55
59. if you are going to say something important, maybe pussy isnt a good way to start it out. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:02 PM
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117. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #55
61. We must cultivate the ability to enjoy what is even while considering what could be.
Sure it would be nice if the substance were discussed, but we might as well enjoy the fireworks over the language.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:42 AM
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56. Anyone else want some popcorn?
:popcorn:
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:43 AM
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58. Gee, it would be nice if people were actually discussing the substance
of the article that trumad thoughtfully linked to and the Taibbi article about TARP-related fraud. That is of some import in the greater world and actually quite interesting.

Some people need to learn some etymology and then get a life.
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #58
62. no, they would rather express their poutrage
and this is a great example of why the Left is constantly shooting itself in the foot. What a joke.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #62
63. Indeed.
And threadjacking is and always has been exceedingly bad netiquette.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:46 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. the dems are acting so gay....
thumbs up, right?
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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:54 AM
Response to Reply #64
67. keep complaining, eventually you will be able to control the language people use....
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:56 AM by BakedAtAMileHigh
Your actions are the definition of cutting your nose to spite your face. You have hijacked this entire thread -- about an article written by a great investigative reporter on an issue of national importance -- because you take personal offense to the language he used.

Is the word offiensive? Sure it is. Should it distract away from the content of the article and the information therein? Only to those of us who see their personal issues as more important than anything else.

I also love how you try to smear people who disagree with you -- implying those who don't agree with your hyperbole are homophobes is pathetic. Really, really sad. You should be ashamed.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. maybe we ought to have a higher expectation of our people bringing us this important news.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 10:58 AM by seabeyond
maybe if we dont just rollover and ignore when our people purposely use language that they know is offensive so that they will be heard .

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BakedAtAMileHigh Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. that's just fine
But ignoring the content because one takes offense to a single term is myopic and counter-productive. Instruct, yes.....hijack and hyperbole, not so much.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #70
78. how many people are not bothered. how incessant is this language to women.
moore the other day uses pink tutu talking to sexist maher cause it is cool. rude pundit uses cunt and dried up vagina discussing coulter.

our men use deragatory terms to man up with their buddies when talking about dems.

if they did this to any other group there would be outrage.

tabbi knew exactly what he was doing when he chose that word. so now, he got exactly what he is looking for and people say ignore it. why.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #69
73. Then take your complaint to Matt Taibbi
and quit disrupting what's left of trumad's thread. Problem solved.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #73
76. Yes! Write him an email and post the reply here!
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #67
71. Right on in every particlar Baked..
:thumbsup:

Threadjacking of this sort is TERRIBLE netiquette; it is extremely rude and smacks of those who dwell under bridges.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #67
137. Well said!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #62
72. So a Hunter Thompson wannabe uses offensive language for no reason and HE isn't shooting himself in
the foot.

It isn't "poutrage".

It's a legitimate grievance.

And it says a lot about you that you'd used that label.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #72
119. Poutrage
1. Poutrage 27 up, 3 down

The combination of emotion and behavior that results from a possibly feigned or genuine outrage over some slight and pouting about it like a spoiled child.

The beauty-queen was poutraged at the loss of her title after breaching her contract.

pout outraged petulance brat indignant
by David C' Jun 11, 2009 share this



And a little more info for you....If you are French, Poutrage, or poutre means (exposed beam)
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #62
96. 100% agree. Bullshit distraction to serve some petty agenda, trying to derail
discussion.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #96
99. right... sexism, denigrating women = petty agenda. nt
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:45 AM by seabeyond
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #96
106. So if Taibbi used the word 'faggot' instead, you'd be fine with that?
Please, DU'ers would be falling over themselves to denounce the use of the term. Plus, anyone trying to defend him would be told it's up to the offended to determine what is or is not offensive.
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 10:53 AM
Response to Reply #58
66. Nah....fuck all that...there's SHINY THINGS to be distracted by!!! (n/t)
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:01 AM
Response to Reply #58
74. It'd be nice if Taibbi managed to express himself in terms that weren't so juvenile and offensive.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #74
83. I was thinking the same thing
but, "juvenile and offensive" perfectly describes the intended target of his remarks, maybe he was just trying to put it in terms they would understand...
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #58
103. Taibbi used an offensive term and that derailed the discussion.
He wasn't calling them cats or salix. That leaves the slang usages.

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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:02 AM
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77. Kick and Rec. Love Taibbi, and he nails it when he calls out these baggers for not giving a crap
when billionaires are screwing them over. Cant find them with the Hubble telescope! Haha! Gotta read the full piece when I have time this afternoon.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:26 AM
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87. Deleted sub-thread
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Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:27 AM
Response to Original message
89. Before I clicked on this thread I knew it would be about "pussies"
DU never disappoints.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #89
105. Help, I'm being repressed!!!!
I'm going to bet he used that word specifically for the shock value, thus increasing eyeballs.

hehe ... I said "balls" (insert beavus and butthead giggle here).
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #105
109. yes. he did. and instead, he is not heard. brilliant man that he is. nt
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #109
112. I think the ONLY reason I know about his article is because of this thread.
I suspect that lots of people will hear what he said and how he said it, and then go check out the article.

The DU thread about it will naturally focus not on the article, but on his selection of terms.

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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #109
121. I heard him loud and clear
Your ranting and raviing is just fucking noise to me.

I think most DU'ers understand your purpose here.


Cheers!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #105
149. LOL
you refer to probably one of the best threads every to be on DU. You show your age. LOL

Oh I yearn for the good old days of the Unrec outrage. LOL
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:41 AM
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101. Yes, they're authoritarian followers.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:42 AM by Marr
http://issuepedia.org/Authoritarian_follower

They exist in every society. They're cowards who desperately want to hurt someone, but are just too damned chickenshit to pick a real fight. They attack people who can't hit them back. They also tend to have poor cognitive skills (ie, they're stupid), and are easily manipulated by anyone who tells them what they want to hear.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:50 AM
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110. Deleted message
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #110
125. Ton o' common sense there, libodem.
Seconded.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #125
130. thanx
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:51 AM
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111. Wow. You'd all rather pile on to a DU'er who was (rightfully) offended by a sexist word
than to admit that the word is sexist? And then you blame HER for derailing the thread?!

Oh those silly little women, always getting the vapors and hysterics over every little thing...

:eyes:
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #111
123. Maybe you and she should become the "outrage police"
Anytime anyone is offended they could call on you to come hijack the thread.


Actually, I am offended that you are offended. So there! Deal with it!
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #123
126. I remember you!
The sad little person who decided to take a shit on our "Mending fences" thread in GLBT. You should really seek help for your obvious gender hostility issues.

Cheers!
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #126
128. I am simply beyond outraged and offended...see how easy that is!
Sometimes idiocy has no gender.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #123
129. Grow up. n/t
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #129
135. Right back at ya!
n/t
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:04 PM
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120. About half right (with the gist of it, don't care for his choice of terminology)...
What drives their hypersensitivity to some forms of tax money and not others? Over resenting some people and not others?

What's the image they're conjuring when they get all worked up about money that "goes to" the "undeserving poor". Why do they assume there is a vast army of layabouts just milking the systems to aid "deserving poor", that this is such a huge part of the budget that all would be well if we just eliminated these programs?

In the US racism is something that wraps together like twine feelings about race itself with class attitudes and attitudes about what might be called "ethnic" in other circumstances. They don't have to be outright white supremacists to have a raft of prejudiced attitudes about "those people", however "those people" may be defined.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:12 PM
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122. Wow, when calling Teabaggers pusillanimous, he doesn't pussyfoot around, does he?
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 12:13 PM by MilesColtrane
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:15 PM
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124. ( Ahem ) ANYWAY, back to the topic: Great article. K & R
I enjoy Taibi's almost single minded hounding of the "tea party" and all their hypocritical bullshit with his rapier like writing. They need to be constantly reminded of what utter frauds they all are.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #124
127. The Tiabbi push-back is invaluable
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 12:25 PM by upi402
:patriot:
Taki Oldham is another
Film- Astroturf Wars

He infiltrated the Teabaggers even though he's Australian.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 12:53 PM
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133. Sexist conversations SHOULD be derailed
It would be worse to let the sexism sit unchallenged, as if it is in some way acceptable.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:37 PM
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158. trumad, great post, too bad it was hijacked by a couple of overzealous females
I am a woman and proud of it, but I understand why Matt Taibbi used a word for Teabaggers that would have been quite offensive in some contexts. People just can't read or analyze the meaning and context of what they read. That is not your fault.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #158
163. Thank you...
I strongly believe that there are many many words that offend.... but I just can't get bent out of shape because someone uses the word Pussy.

Hell---the main threadjacker used the word Wuss but tried to write it off as non-offensive..... oh--because to her, it means something else.

OK--- but to some it means the same as Pussy.....

And that's the danger of word games like this.

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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 02:39 PM
Response to Original message
160. Great article, but dang - this thread got jacked up..
PC police, chill the F out
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 03:04 PM
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174. While this is a direct quote from Tiabbi's article,
using it as the lead in for the post was bound to result in a sidetrack from the main points of the articles. And it placed the onus of Tiabbi's offensive choice of words on DU membership and the moderators.

So, we're locking this. Suggest a re-post if you wish, yet with a less offensive headline. Thanks.

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