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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:42 AM Original message |
Why WikiLeaks Is Unlike the Pentagon Papers |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. K&R. Good article (even if it is WSJ). |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
3. How does anyone know Wikileaks hasn't done the same? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wall Street Journal? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Do you know who Floyd Abrams, the author of the OpEd is? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I'll admit, I don't know of him |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. I am supposed to compensate for your ignorance? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Well, okay |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #20 |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. You've given me no reason to |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Oh brother. . .so I am glad I made your day. . .enjoy your ignorance. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. You need to read my post below. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Explain what you base your assertion that he is biased on. . . |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
134. No. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Do you know what Daniel Ellsberg, the subject of the OpEd, had to say about Wikileaks? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Abrams acknowledged Ellsberg's assertion and laid out a case outlining. . . |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. Yup, I'm sure if those derogatory comments were released... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Ouch |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. All Julian wants is attention - notice he will be writing his autobiography |
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Voice for Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I don't agree. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Assange is taking a different tack |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. The glaring difference as I see it |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Government secrecy is his gig |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Diplomatic secrets aren't government secrets from the people |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I just bet you know how to tie a cherry stem in your mouth |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
75. Huh? Is that a fancy way of saying no more than "No!" |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:37 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. Yup, our tax dollars going to pay for child sex slaves sure is just petty stuff |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Oh really, so why isn't Julian writing his book about that? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
97. Why would he need to write a book about it? He released it to the world |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
47. Assange is a publisher (like the NYTimes or WSJ). Ellsberg was a leaker. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Do you realize the definition of autobiography is a biography one writes about oneself? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yeah. So it's not a book about why the leaks are important |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. Yeah, what an asshole for writing an autobiography. Do you apply that standard to everyone? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. Hmmm, Obama's march to the presidency started with an autobiographical memoir. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. So you think Assange should stand trial? On what charges exactly? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. For whatever laws he violated. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
30. And what laws did he violate? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Just for starters |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. Except there is zero evidence thata Wikileaks or Assange |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. That is what investigations are for |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:29 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. So you don't know if Assange could be charged or not. n/t |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
94. I do, he could be charged with conspiracy |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 04:15 AM Response to Reply #94 |
144. LOL! |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
53. That applies to the people that steal the information, not people that leak it |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. these would apply to Julian |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
98. So they also apply to Bob Novak and Judith Miller? |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
96. This might be more relevant if |
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TalkingDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Even the government admits he hasn't broken any laws |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. That is certainly not so |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
56. So you are saying you would make a better prosecutor than Patrick Fitzgerald ? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. who the hell is Patrick Fitzgerald? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
101. lol, did you above tell me to educate myself and you don't know who Patrick Fitzgerald is? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #37 |
107. The Republicans wanted to prosecute the NY Times for publishing |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
61. Conspiracy will be the easiest if they have a case.. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:20 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Because we know that someone who was tortured mentally for the last year is a great witness |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Yep, thats the new meme areound the webs. But I would bet new jesus (manning) |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Locked in solitary confinement 23 hours a day. Not allowed to exercise |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. There are 80,000 people locked in solitary at any given time in the US, including |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Those 80,000 people are not allowed to excercise and dont have access to news? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. 1 hour a day. Tv is earned and can be taken away. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. You didn't answer my question. They can't exercise in their cell? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. They can pace. They dont have a bowflex |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. exercise such as pushups. Which Manning is not allowed to do |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Aww, in the Army and no pushups. He is a lucky bastard |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Well I'm glad you now support torture |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:04 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. Holding a guy in a manner that prevents him killing himself is not torture |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. So sleep deprevation is not torture? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #105 |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 04:11 AM Response to Reply #100 |
143. You know what is torture? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
27. That's not true. Ellsberg and his attorney also held press conferences |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
84. Did he take a million.5? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
49. yup. nt |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
8. Assange is actually quite like Daniel Ellsberg |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. Wiki is exactly like PP. War crimes were committed, they were exposed by heroes and patriots. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
50. and then the gossip and giggle and nontruths just thrown out for???? nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Countless people have remarked they demonsttrate the vast over classification |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. cause it is just dire we know putin is alpha dog. same old. same old EF. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Did you even read my post? |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. So how does the WSJ explain wikileaks decision to NOT release all the cables? |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Julian is using the Kardashian method |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
23. This article is full of misinformation and bad reasoning |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
26. Gosh. The Wall Street Journal joins our "transaparent" Gov't in protecting us from...knowledge. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. As I said upthread, do you know who Floyd Abrams is, his background. . . |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. You left out his opposition to campaign finance reform (McCain/Feingold). |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I support McCain/Feingold, but you know who doesn't the ACLU! So. . . |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. OK. As a member of the ACLU I do oppose their stand. So? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. What was the purpose of you bringing up Abrams' opposition to McCain/Feingold? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. You seem to feel/think that we should agree with him because of his supposed qualifications. |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
88. What is this veteran of free-speech battles doing on the payroll of a company that analyzes security... |
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Union Scribe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Uh oh, now you're getting yelled at for insufficient reverence. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. And look at this, his former client, Judy Miller, is now writing for Newmax. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
34. Ellsberg himself compared Wikileaks' releases to what he himself did. |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. Assange =/= Wikileaks |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
55. Emptywheel takes Abrams apart. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. End of thread. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I think the thread can keep going. . . |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
87. Sure, but the OP has been wholly disputed and debunked. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. Excellent read. Thanks for posting it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. This Abrams piece is being pimped all over the place. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
81. Abrams was on Washington Journal a couple of weeks ago... |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. Abrams wrote a dishonest "hit" piece here |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. It's embarrassing. We should all chip in a penny and buy him |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
71. Mr. Ellsberg said what Julian Assange did was not illegal under the laws of United States. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Good thing he does not work at the DOJ |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
77. unrec |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
90. Assange is irrelevant now as the concept is out of the bag... Hell they killed Napster, but everyone |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. The penalty for uploading media is not federal death penalty or life in Federal Supermax |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Whether it is espionage, or journalism just doesn't matter... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. Assange got his million.5. The "system" requires mannings to work |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. the only casualty of the infowars will be 'the truth' |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. So you now have assange truth. you do not have context |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Assange seriously doesn't care one way or another... in an infowar the point is to disrupt, |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. No Anarchy is when some asshole calls for the POTUS to resign |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:04 PM Response to Reply #122 |
137. That doesn't even make sense... I am for any tool/system that puts more power |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. Only if you get caught |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. same for any real crime. Rape, murder |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. To what purpose is he not going "to see the sun rise again"? Does he pose a threat to society? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. Like Hannsen and Ames he presents a risk of further disclosure of classified information |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. So, who was Manning "spying" for? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Same as Rosenberg. You can still fry for spying for an idea |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:45 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Which will certainly disply the "ethos" of our justice system. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. That old class war meme fails. the proles |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. The old "Father Knows Best" meme fails. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. And why do you need to know information about a man giving information on their Nuclear program |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #127 |
128. Why do the citizens need to know anything that their government does? |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Dude we are all proles posting here. Its a class war term. This whole scam plays |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #106 |
117. His mistake was breaking anonymity |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. Death is relevant. Gerald Bull ceased being relevant |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:27 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. "There is information that has no place in public." |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Just look for the FCC ID on the PC, WAP, Modem and Cell you own |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. You keep bringing this back to Assange |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. There are people who supplement their hobby |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 06:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. I don't think you see the Wikileaks story the way I do |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #104 |
114. Exactly, I can't even begin to talk about the stuff I hacked into as a teenager |
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toddaa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. You're talking now |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
124. Ahh, another Wikileaks thread: They're like flypaper for authoritarianism. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
132. One thing it has in common is the types of people it's pissing off. |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #132 |
139. You mean the government knows best crowd? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. That's one way to put it. |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
135. heh |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:28 PM Response to Reply #135 |
141. I don't mind being called simple-minded |
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Number23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-10 01:19 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. I'm sure there's a point buried in there somewhere. |
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DirkGently (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
136. Mr. Ellsberg's opinion carries a bit more weight, methinks. (He supports Wikileaks). |
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FamousBlueRaincoat (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. exactly |
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