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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:39 AM
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20,000 more votes than ballots (Waukesha WI 2006)
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 04:26 AM by Cieran_WI
The Waukesha county results for the 2006 elections for Governors race, Attorney General, Secretary of State, US Senator, and State Treasurer.
http://www.waukeshacounty.gov/uploadedFiles/Media/List_...
Straight from the waukeshacounty.gov website.

156,804 - Ballots cast in Waukesha county
176,112 - Votes for Governor/Lt Governor race (votes confirmed at http://elections.state.wi.us/docview.asp?docid=10029&lo... but no ballot total there )
174,047 - Votes for Attorney General
170,440 - Votes for Secretary of State
174,244 - Votes for US Senator
168,861 - Votes for State Treasurer

Election handled by Kathy Nickolaus.


Posted without editorialization.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:43 AM
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1. Definitely something fishy
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:20 AM
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13. UPDATE: 2006 AG race won by 8,859 votes statewide, w/ 17,243 extra in Waukesha
BIG UPDATE!!
In this 2006 election, Van Hollen won the election for Attorney General with these numbers:

1,065,453 - Van Hollen (R)
1,056,594 - Falk (D)

A difference of 8,859 votes STATEWIDE.

Waukesha county, Kathy Nickolaus' playground, reports 17,243 more votes cast for the Attorney General race in Waukesha county than there were total number of ballots cast.

How many more of those "extra" 17,243 votes were for Van Hollen than were for Kathleen Falk?? I'm guessing it's somewhere right about 8,900 votes :P

Since that election, Van Hollen has become infamous for forging the WI Secretary of State's name on the appeal of the TRO against the WI anti-union bill and then getting fired as the SoS' legal representation as a result. He's Walker's man, through and through.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 05:36 AM
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14. We have to flush this out a bit more.. Doyle won Wisconsin by 5% or so
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 05:53 AM by Ellipsis
But Falk lost.. it was kinda given over that her gender and being from "Madison", played a roll in the the vote shift between her and Doyle. Polls showed about a 5% advantage for Doyle going into the 2006 election (as I remember). HIS win was fairly assured.


This info was published on these numbers in Jan. 08


The content of the report needs to be confirmed, she makes mistakes, ....as we know.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:28 AM
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15. Val Hollen was also Wisconsin Chair of the McCain Campaign
and aggressively worked to disenfranchise student and low income voters in the '08 POTUS election,
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:14 PM
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44. yes he did... Remember his data base...Not even he would of been able to vote using it...
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-11 08:10 AM
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61. Cieran_WI - you asked when the clerk got her job?
I found this on the Brookfield Now local news site (you have to pay for the full article):

1.) County clerk reshapes office in 1st year
Newcomer fights to retain staff and expands public services

"Author: SCOTT WILLIAMS swilliams@journalsentinel.com, Journal Sentinel
Publication: Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (WI)
Publish Date: November 14, 2003
Word Count: 770
Document ID: 0FED54F6EE135ADB

At a time when government elsewhere is retrenching and downsizing, Waukesha County's new county clerk is going against the grain.

Kathy Nickolaus, a newcomer to local politics, has marked her first year in office with a blizzard of ideas for expanding services in an office known for issuing marriage licenses and running elections.

She has renewed passport application services, made sample election ballots available on the Internet."

So it looks like her 1st year was 2003 or there about. Hope this helps.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:43 AM
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2. Holy Chicago, batman!
In Ye olde daze of king Richard, there used to be results like that.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 03:54 AM
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3. .. nevermind. I thought I saw something.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 03:55 AM by lamp_shade
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:01 AM
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4. Congressional race totals 132,044... 44,000 votes less then Gov., This is interesting.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 04:29 AM by Ellipsis
The report date say posted in January of 08.


DISTRICT ATTORNEY
BRAD SCHIMEL (REP) . . . . . . . 132,966 99.39
WRITE-IN. . . . . . . . . . . 820 .61


COUNTY CLERK
KATHY NICKOLAUS (REP) . . . . . . 133,189 99.59
WRITE-IN. . . . . . . . . . . 544 .41


TREASURER
PAMELA F. REEVES (REP) . . . . . . 132,606 99.65
WRITE-IN. . . . . . . . . . . 462 .35


SHERIFF
DANIEL J. TRAWICKI (REP) . . . . . 134,024 99.62
WRITE-IN. . . . . . . . . . . 505 .38

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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:34 AM
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7. But only 14k less than ballots cast
So the 156k ballots cast number seems accurate, but the 5 races above 168k seem inflated.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:39 AM
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9. Going to have to run this one up the flag pole, Great find.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:01 PM
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29. Part of the county is in Paul Ryan's district, that's why.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 12:06 PM by undeterred
REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS DISTRICT 1
JEFFREY C. THOMAS (DEM). . . . . . 7,424 26.87
PAUL RYAN (REP) . . . . . . . . 20,200 73.11



REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS DISTRICT 5
BRYAN KENNEDY (DEM) . . . . . . . 45,550 31.31
F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER JR. (REP). . . 96,339 66.23
BOB LEVIS (WGR) . . . . . . . . 2,002 1
ROBERT R. RAYMOND (IND). . . . . . 1,529 1.05
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:12 PM
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35. It was late... or early... I get that. Why are all the other down races the same.
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 02:15 PM by Ellipsis
Different districts as well?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:39 PM
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36. I'm not sure about the others...
I worked on the Congressional race so I recognized it right away. But I'm reeling over the AG race. This changes the result. This is horrible. How many more things have happened that we don't know about?

I remember hearing that Sensenbrenner's district had the best turnout in the country and that my own district (Madison- Tammy Baldwin) was second. But it was weird because I never saw any GOTV in Sensenbrenner's district at all. Nobody going door to door. No canvassing, no lit drops, nothing. I assumed they did a lot of church rallys and robocalls and mailings.

Maybe GOTV is some kind of computer move to the GOP.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:56 PM
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39. Here's a good Daily Kos link you might be interested in.
54anickel posted it in another thread.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/11/965994/-Waukes...
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 02:17 AM
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58. Wow! More votes than the total ballots. How does that work?
And the sudden increase in voter registrations. Have you ever registered voters? I have. It's a slow, difficult process -- getting people to stop and register.

Unless you are registering new citizens. They register very quickly because they are proud to be American and to vote in our elections.
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:07 AM
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5. Ruh-oh.
Someone's got some 'splainin' to do.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:21 AM
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6. Confirmed the votes for 2006 GOV. @ 176114 votes
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:36 AM
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8. 2006 was a contentious year for the Attorney Generals race. JB Van Hollen won by 9071 votes
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 04:37 AM by Ellipsis
Narrow indeed: Unofficial tallies showed Van Hollen with 1,062,657 votes, or 50.2%, compared with 1,053,586 votes, or 49.8%, for Falk - a margin of 9,071 votes.


...just sayin'
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:41 AM
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10. And with 20,000 more votes than ballots in Waukesha
I wonder how many of the "extra" votes were for each party? I'm guessing enough to cover that 9k winning spread...
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:43 AM
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12. This does, indeed, deserve further scrutiny... keep this kicked.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:14 AM
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25. You mean, with the one report inferring 20,000 more votes, there is cause for inquiry
into why there is a discrepancy in the reporting. Not the same as proof there were 20,000 more votes reported than cast.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 04:42 AM
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11. Vote early, vote often?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:40 AM
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16. Uhhhhh..WTF?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 06:59 AM
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17. Betya she had problems w/ the save function on her .....
.... computer again.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:34 PM
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31. I think she'll continue to have problems saving
her own ass.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:15 AM
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18. Kick and recommended
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 08:30 AM
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19. K/R
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:10 AM
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20. Please allow me to editorialize.
:wow:

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:20 AM
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21. Please consider x-posting to Election Reform Forum
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

sometimes this info gets lost in the rapid fire GD. :hi:
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warpigs Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:21 AM
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22. There were 20,000 votes in City of Brookfield
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:23 AM
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23. Just wondering 1st link is 11/7 and second is 12/1-provisionals? absentees?
We need to check this out because Provisionals are not entered until a period where they can be authenicated.

:hi:
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:20 PM
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48. The Waukesha Cty. page I am looking at....
with the discrepancy between ballots cast and votes tallied is dated 1/31/08. The numbers did not jive over a year after the election apparently.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:24 AM
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24. K and R
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:53 AM
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26. K and R
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:56 AM
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27. k/r
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 12:07 PM by undeterred
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:56 AM
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28. delete
Edited on Tue Apr-12-11 12:06 PM by undeterred
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:26 PM
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30. Politics blog: Waukesha Co Clerk to respond to calls for her resignation today
Politics blog: Waukesha Co Clerk to respond to calls for her resignation today
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politic...

The Waukesha County Clerk will be responding to calls for her resignation on Tuesday afternoon, her office said.

County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus, who botched her count of last week's Wisconsin Supreme Court race, has faced a storm of criticism over her handling of the debacle.

The chairman of Waukesha County's Democratic Party has begun calling for Nickolaus to resign after the revelation that she had failed to include votes from all of Brookfield in the totals she reported to the Associated Press.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:41 PM
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37. She should be arrested.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:13 AM
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51. Nickolaus has been challenged by her own party for her secretive behavior ....
re election information -- and her eratic behavior -- as I recall all of that!!

Amazing -- she's still in place!!

Someone has kept her there for just such a GOP emergency as this!!

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:47 PM
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32. It's a miracle! Another election miracle that benefits the GOP!
:puke:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 12:54 PM
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33. Well, isn't that special. Repuke votes multiply and paper ballots vanish into thin air.
It's just so magical! Isn't it just mind-boggling how all this "magic" happens in Repuke races only?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:17 AM
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52. I'd question every election back to Nixon/Humphrey ... when these computers began to come in!!

Immediately two journalists in Florida became suspicious of the questionable

and unverifiable results being reported and began to investigate --

They wrote a book which was immediately removed from book store shelves --

but it's available here and there for $3 -- and you can also read it on the website --

Votesam -- The Stealing of America --

http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm


Doubt there ever was a "Southern Strategy" -- probably only hackable computers!

Unfortunately, the Democratic Party is wholly disinterested in computers and stolen elections!!




The Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC --

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard...

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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 01:13 PM
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34. K and R. Let's not forget to analyze voting results in other counties besides Waukesha.
It is easier to conceal small cases of fraud that are distributed around, than to hide one big example.

There were a lot of vote counting irregularities in Florida beyond the "hanging chads" in Dade county.

Keep digging!
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 02:43 PM
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38. yeah.... all the attention is on this lady...if she is a good crook she is diverting us away from th
the actual criminal behavior.
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Cieran_WI Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:14 PM
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43. Agreed. We need a full, statewide hand-recount of the paper ballots.
But we need everyone to write the JoKlo campaign to tell them to do it statewide and that we'll support it financially if they go for a statewide, hand-recount. Waukesha may just be the magician's slight of hand.

www.KloppenburgForJustice.com
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:19 AM
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54. Who's protecting the actual paper ballots -- ?
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:36 PM
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40. Goppy is getting a little...
Sloppy...
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:19 AM
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55. They're down to the bottom of the right wing barrel -- !!
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 07:57 PM
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41. I figured as much!
Same Stuff, Different Day, from the RepubliCONs!
WHY DO THEY HATE AMERICA?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:13 PM
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42. I suppose there is nothing to see here either?
No one understands what is going on with these number and so they call it human error.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:17 PM
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45. No one has knocked this one down yet.
I sent the info off to a couple folks, it's vrary vrary quiet out there.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 10:12 PM
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47. Ellipsis
Thank you. You have been doing some amazing work.

This new release - this extra 20,000 votes is stunning. How in the world could this have fallen thru the cracks? And where are all those who were here just days ago telling us everything was 'taken care of'?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 08:27 PM
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59. NAH! Peace Nikki, Scuba, eowyn_of_rohan,Cieran we all do our thing
We believe.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 09:39 PM
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46. And I predict more votes than ballots this year, which is why they gave the GOP the 7500 margin.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-11 11:00 PM
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49. Link to dailykos- Waukesha voting irregularities go back to 2004
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/11/965994/-Waukes...

She messed with every election in that county, by the looks of it.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:29 AM
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57. Unfreakingbelievable.
Forget calling for her resignation. Someone should be arresting and prosecuting this scheming clerk for election fraud.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:06 AM
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50. New Math nt
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:18 AM
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53. A stink pervades the air
and it ain't dairy cow pies!

Big K&R
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-11 01:27 AM
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56. Q Americans should be asking: How many Kathy Nicholaus's across the country?
Remember Katherine Harris?

Remember Theresa La Pore of the infamous "butterfly ballot" -- ?

And where is the Democratic Party which should be asking those questions -- ??



http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-11 11:44 PM
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60. I believe ya' done opened up a can of worms hehehehe. (kick)
Edited on Thu Apr-14-11 11:45 PM by Ellipsis
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