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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:38 AM
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Florida senate passes anti pokey left lane drivers law
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/04/06/2153582/fla-senate-wants-left-lane-drivers.html

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The Florida Senate has passed a bill aimed at reducing road rage by requiring motorists driving in the far left lane of a multiple lane road or highway to move to the right to let faster vehicles pass them.

The bill (SB 244) that won approval Wednesday would allow police to ticket violators for aggressive careless driving.



I'll give these guys a thumbs up for this one. Maybe those folks who are self-appointed "speed limit" blockers will get ticketed now.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:40 AM
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1. but but but....
I'm doing the speed limit and no one should be going any faster!

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Seriously though, I never saw so many asshole truckers trying to pass uphill in a two lane until I came back to the US.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:42 AM
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2. Here in Florida we have the old retired folks.
No schedule, all the time in the world, and think nothing of sitting in the left lane just trying to slow the world down to their pace.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:45 AM
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3. so, should the cop pull over the speeder trying to pass or the one doing the limit?

It will be interesting to see who gets the tickets here. This sounds to me like a law that simply won't be enforced.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:50 AM
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8. From a revenue perspective
Aggressive Careless Driving sounds more expensive than a Speeding ticket.

The police might have more incentive/pressure to go after the slow poke.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:14 AM
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16. and when you go to court and tell the judge
"I was driving the speed limit and was pulled over because someone breaking the speed limit wanted to pass me."


How do you think that one is going to go over?


If I were the cop I would go after the speeder, but maybe it is just me.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:21 AM
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18. Won't matter to the Judge
Judges don't care if others were going faster when if you get a speeding ticket. Most judges will say "it doesn't matter what others were doing, are you guilty of breaking this law?".

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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:46 AM
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4. Now if they could just do something about ...




the drivers who go for miles with their left turn signal on. :eyes:


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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:47 AM
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5. Damn! The left lane is the easiest one to drive in while on a cell phone.

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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:51 AM
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9. bad bad BAD Wilms!
:rofl:

man, if you could just work Olive Garden in there somewhere.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:52 AM
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10. Now they need a law banning Olive Gardens
from being built on the left sides of roads.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:48 AM
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6. I would be in favor of a law which gets road rage drivers off the road.
It seems road rage is directly related to the personality trait of narcissism, in which the driver thinks everything in the world should be about him.
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BillStein Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:08 AM
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14. huh?
Really? And people who drive slow in the left lane do are altruists?

If you want to lessen road rage, pull over!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:16 AM
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17. I don't have road rage and I don't drive slow in the left lane.
But there is something wrong with people who drive around in a state of rage all the time.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:45 AM
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20. It's about having good driving manners
Most folks would never react enough to engage in road rage, but even we somewhat sane drivers can be privately annoyed at folks who don't have common courtesy.
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:48 AM
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24. As a motorcyclist, for me it is not road rage, its terror induced by the brainless cagers who are
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 09:48 AM by ProgressiveProfessor
clearly trying to kill me. Like any long time motorcyclist, I have stories...lots of stories.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:50 AM
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25. It's what bonds us motorcycle riders
No matter what we ride, we've all been out there. Oh the stories...
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:49 AM
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7. ONE good bill which they have passed.
This state is plagued with slow left lane drivers who are a danger to others on the road.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:58 AM
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12. Plus the fact they can't see over the steering wheel. Scary..n/t
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:47 AM
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23. Who is "they?"
Just curious.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:46 AM
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31. Many short seniors....n/t
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:55 AM
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11. And anyone who is driving at the maximum speed limit
shoud be permitted to drive in that lane.

I don't care how fucking inconvenient it is, there ought not be a law to facilitate law-breaking.
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:06 AM
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13. Or the person doing the speed limit can just move over in the right hand lane
and not be an asshole or self appointed speed limit enforcer.

A little common courtesy goes a long way to stop road rage.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:12 AM
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15. Thank God for our self appointed guardians...
... of vice and virtue. What would we do without them? :eyes:
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:00 AM
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28. How fucking arrogant
If traffic is heavy then the person doing the maximum speed limit has just as much right to drive in that outside lane as anyone else. Granted, people who are driving below the speed limit ought to keep to the right.

Just because somebody thinks they need to drive faster than the speed limit does not mean it is legally permitted. That's why a cop can stop and ticket them, traffic court can find them guilty and impose penalties, and the state department of motor vehicles can assess points against their driving privileges. If they ever want to get a professional license or be bonded they may need to disclose all their traffic violations. If they have a long history of traffic violations that can be a problem because it is an indicator that they have shown blatant disregard for the law. One of my law school classmates had to solicit professors, classmates and friends to testify to his moral character to qualify for admission to the bar for that very reason.

If somebody has to drive faster than the maximum speed limit then they need to pay attention, plan ahead, get their ass in gear, allow enough time to get wherever they have to go and actually leave in time to get there. That is common courtesy.

Speeding, driving aggressively, tailgating, weaving in and out of traffic lanes, passing on the shoulder, not permitting other vehicles to merge into traffic or change lanes is not courteous driving. Courtesy is a matter of showing favor, indulgence, respect and consideration. Those who choose not to abide by the rules of the road - including the speed limit - fail to exhibit this behavior.

If somebody is driving aggressively and I hack them off because I'm driving the maximum speed limit then so be it. That's their problem - and I will exercise the self-discipline to ignore them without making eye contact or offering what might be a well deserved one finger salute. This is a concealed carry state and I have no reservations defending myself against an aggressor should it be necessary - or taking them to court and putting them in bankruptcy if they inflict injury to my person or property.

I live in a state with a similar law. If the speed limit is 65 and traffic is heavy then I'm going to be driving 65 in the outside lane. Folks here do not get ticketed for that and it is common practice. That outsde lane is not reserved for speeders. The assholes driving 70 in that outside lane do get ticketed here. Three of the last five days I've seen the motorcycle cop brigade out on our highways doing just that.

My personal opinion is that traffic and speed laws ought to be more aggressively enforced. It would make the roads more civil. It would be a good source of revenue paid by folks who volunteer to make that payment by their choice of driving habits.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:10 AM
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29. You had one important sentence in all that...
"That's why a cop can stop and ticket them, traffic court can find them guilty and impose penalties, and the state department of motor vehicles can assess points against their driving privileges."

Unless you fall into one of those categories... mind your own business.

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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:18 AM
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30. Most Floridians drive 5 to 10 mph ABOVE the speed limits ...
The police in Florida generally ignore this, therefore they do not see 5 to 10 mph over as true law-breaking.

Polite and responsible drivers do not hog the passing lane. I pass and pull over.



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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:30 AM
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19. We've had that law in Illinois for a few years but it doesn't seem to get enforced.
And it's not just about letting speeders speed. Sometimes you need to get around a bad driver in the right lane (uneven speeds, signals blinking for blocks, lost in a cell phone conversation, etc.) but there's some hall monitor blocking things inthe left lane.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:45 AM
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21. Does that include the 3 or 4 lane raceway through construction zones with 45 MPH limits, known as
I-95, between the Georgia border and Gainsville?
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:47 AM
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22. Good idea
Slowing down unhelmeted motorcyclists doing 85-90 mph reduces the organ transplant pool.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:57 AM
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26. What!! Then Speed Traps might become effective again!!
Just imagine them racing down the left lane into a speed trap. Rather than trying desperately to CutOff the vigilante and not caring who gets run off the road in the process.
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 10:02 AM
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27. Self appointed speed limit blocker?. It's appears you're the one doing the appointment
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 10:03 AM by NoGOPZone
Consider the possibility that there are people driving at that speed for reasons other than to keep others from doing so.

Also note that there is an exception for driving the speed limit 'while not impeding the flow of traffic', which is subject to intrepretation.
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ParkieDem Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:51 AM
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32. Yes! Yes! Yes!
Florida does something right for a change!

Slow drivers piss me off more than anything. Maybe it's a shallow pet peeve, but the stats show that a disparity in speeds is what causes most highway accidents. Minimum speeds need to be enforced on major highways, and I applaud Florida for taking this step.

Now we need to raise speed limits even more!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:59 AM
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33. Can someone show me the DMV code that says
that it is OK to exceed the speed limit if everybody else is doing so?

And please don't just show me the part about "slower drivers move to the right" unless it specifically addresses the issue of speed limits.
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