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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:07 PM
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Statement from Kloppenburg campaign
I am glad to see this.


http://uppitywis.org/blogarticle/statement-kloppenburg-...


Statement from Kloppenburg campaign

Thu, 04/07/2011 - 9:10pm | Steve Hanson



"Wisconsin voters as well as the Kloppenburg for Justice Campaign deserve a full explanation of how and why these 14,000 votes from an entire City were missed. To that end, we will be filing open records requests for all relevant documentation related to the reporting of election results in Waukesha County, as well as to the discovery and reporting of the errors announced by the County. We are confident that election officials in Waukesha County will fulfill these requests as quickly as possible so that both our campaign and the people of Wisconsin can fully understand what happened and why. Just as Assistant Attorney General Kloppenburg has run to restore confidence in the court, Wisconsin residents also deserve to have full confidence in election results."
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:09 PM
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1. As I said, the Wisconsin Democrats will get to the bottom of it.
:patriot:

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:11 PM
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4. Hey, Nikki!
:hi:
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:44 AM
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21. Ijust awoke from my nap and realized there were 14,000 votes on my pc I forgot about
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 10:26 AM
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43. OOps! Darn!
:sarcasm:

Imagine that!
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:08 PM
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54. She had a long nap-until she "remembered"
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:09 PM
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58. Send them in quick, we trust you.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:11 PM
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5. It's hard to not feel defeated, but if for some reason these votes came from nefarious means,
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 10:12 PM by Tiggeroshii
we would also love to know about it. But until then, it really does seem like the "whole losing this election" thing sucks...
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:18 PM
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11. Meh, we won't give up. If there was fraud, we'll find it and keep recalling in the meantime.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:45 AM
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32. Yep. Stonger than ever!!!!
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:31 AM
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35. Exactly. No one is letting this one go.
I'm glad to see Kloppenburg has come out a fighter.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:57 AM
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38. I am hoping there is not a paper trail. Or the fact that they have been
compromised will cause them to not count.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:11 PM
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6. The way national Democrats "got to the bottom" of Bush's selection?
n/t
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:17 PM
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10. No, the way WISCONSIN Democrats take care of shit.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:24 PM
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15. Well -- we're all hoping. Since they're piling the shit on you exponentially.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 10:25 PM by villager
It's kind of do or die there now...
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PatrynXX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:21 AM
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27. and making the dems eat scat too
Because no way would they allow a recount. the 7500 votes would go poof.
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:38 PM
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18. .
:pals:
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:45 AM
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22. :)
:yourock:
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:40 AM
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25. Fuckin' a!
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:46 AM
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33. Don't we wish the national Dems were as good as Feingold? n/t
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October Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:12 AM
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37. Wisconsin has been a true inspiration to a lot of us
Lighting the way!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 10:28 AM
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44. Yes, no Kerry or Gore rollover this time
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goodnews Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:38 PM
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52. This is different than the Bush Era. More people know what is going
on and they are fighting like hell in Wisconsin. The Repug cheating machine has to keep doing its thing cause that is the only way they can win and they will be vulnerable from now on to public exposure and legal action unlike before. They are not the party in power like they were then.
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floriduck Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:01 PM
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53. The Rebirth
of Katherine Harris. Only this county clerk is even dumber than Harris is. And all this time I didn't think it was possible to find a lower life than Harris.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:13 PM
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55. You were right!! n/t
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:10 PM
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2. Good work.
She sounds like a GOOD lawyer!
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:11 PM
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3. Wow, took me aback- I'm used to politicians folding at this part in the battle.
Good for her! (And good for all of us)

:thumbsup:

PB
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:12 PM
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7. This Has To Be Fought To the Knife, Sir
Hell, to the howitzer....

It stinks to high heaven.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:35 AM
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30. Agreed Sir, it must be fought till hell freezes over
...and then fought on the ice.

It is a most odious and reprehensible development, but given the mendacity and thorough unprincipled nature of her adversary's allies, not wholly unexpected as there is no guttural level to which they will not slither to preserve their stranglehold on power. I do hope she commences an all out legal assault and if so perhaps DU can assist the funding effort.
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Mason Dixon Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:45 AM
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47. Translation
This shit stinks and they're a bunch of fuckers acting like assholes. And if we don't get out way we're going to whine until more people start whining with us
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:24 PM
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14. Good to hear this!
Every piece of paper and every inch, bit and byte of that personal computer needs to be examined.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:34 PM
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17. This illustrates the disconnect between States and the Beltway
Crowd. Democrats in the States have spines and
believe in something.

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FeelingBlue Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:13 PM
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8. Gee,
I wonder why Proesser, concerned with justice, wouldn't be speaking out about the apparent foulness of this!!!
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Wabbajack_ Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:23 PM
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13. No one ever complains
if it's their own victory that seems suspicious.

No basketball player will ever claim he didn't get fouled.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:24 PM
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16. He went on Fox and gloated.
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Chipster Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:07 AM
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39. Greta VanSustern Interviews David Prosser
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:14 PM
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9. I want to see the U.S. Dept of Justice land on Nicolaus like a
ton of bricks. Maybe use the U.S. Attorney to empanel a criminal grand jury with power to issue subpoenas. Haul her ass before a grand jury and force Nickolaus to testify under penalty of perjury.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:26 AM
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19. and the others before her....
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:32 AM
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28. I want to see her ass in a federal prison -- soon.
:grr:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:19 PM
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12. Encouraging response.
John Nicholls was just on the Ed Show and he sounded optimistic about an investigation as well.
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:44 AM
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20. I don't see any concession there. She can't be forced to concede, can she? Help me out Badgers.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:28 AM
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23. I am crying from frustration.
This cannot be allowed to stand. I don't see how it can be anything other than fraud.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:30 AM
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24. This doesn't pass the smell test.
Just enough missing votes not only to put Poser into the lead, but enough to avoid a mandatory recount? Huh?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:43 AM
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26. Man, she's a judge. Waukesha is liable. Never piss off a judge.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:34 AM
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29. Two tasks: 1) FIRE this incompetent idiot clerk. 2) GET MORE DEM TURNOUT NEXT TIME !
First embarrass the shit out of this idiot clerk who has been under the gun BEFORE for shitty practices, refusing to reform, and old shitty equipment. GET THE IDIOT FIRED ! Make a HUGE stink about it !

Second, with everything that has gone on, a little more Dem TURNOUT and this would not have been an issue. Major kudos to all the turnout that did happen, and it was very close even if within 7000 or so votes, BUT with all that happened she should have won a damn LANDSLIDE. With all respect, 33% statewide turnout doesn't cut the mustard. MORE DEMS NEED TO GET THE HELL OUT TO VOTE !! ONCE AGAIN, LIVE AND LEARN.

NOW ALL YOU CAN DO IS RE-DOUBLE THE RECALL EFFORTS AND FIGHT ANOTHER DAY.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 05:06 PM
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56. Bull shit...this is not a roll over moment, though I do GET where you are coming from. nt
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bluetex Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:13 AM
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31. Doesn't look good...
$3.5 MILLION down the drain.

And.....for what?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:01 AM
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34. "to have full confidence in election results"
I haven't had that since before December 2000.

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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:39 AM
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36. Idiot clerk worked for Prosser for 8 years
And she was also involved in the caucus scandal in the capitol in 2002, for which she got immunity from prosecution.

Anyone else think she got her arm twisted?

http://www.fightingbob.com/weblog.cfm?postID=3840
Garvey Blog at FightingBob.com

April 7, 2011
Holy cow!
Just learned that Kathy Nickolaus worked for David Prosser for eight years when Prosser ran the Republican Assembly. In other words, she was employed by Prosser, the candidate.

People in the office who observed the canvass said the additional votes from Brookfield never came up. C'mon!

Apparently Charlie Sykes, National Review and right-wing bloggers had the story hours before it was announced. She admits that she discovered it at noon--sat on it for 29 hours! One person involved said it stinks to high heaven. Indeed! Can't believe it? I can and wish I could say I can't. But I can.
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gulfbreeze Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:50 AM
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41. Was this democrat, Ramona Kitzinger, always a democrat?
I read on Brad's Blog

"The witness, Wanda White also detailed how she was instructed to change her own voter registration from Republican to Democratic so that she could serve as a Democratic precinct official."

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7765
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 10:12 AM
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42. We don't register by party
All she had to do was say she was a Democrat. Unless the county Democratic Party challenged her, she had the job.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:45 AM
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40. How does that sort of thing work??? Do they use the fudge-factor to compromise a
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 09:46 AM by patrice
certain percentage of the vote and, then, in this case, hold out the "fudgiest" votes, betting that they can win without them and, then, pulling these more legally risky votes out of hiding if necessary when they lose?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:01 AM
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45. Now now, let's not get excited
I am sure these votes are real and genuine. After all, a civic employee went to great lengths to point these out - and we all know she can be trusted. Even though she's a Republian, and very active in the party and Tea Party, I am sure this is all just some misunderstanding. We have to let go of this and move on.

Oh and :sarcasm: just in case...
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:35 AM
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46. While I feel for Ms. Kloppenburg......
....she brought some of this on herself by declaring victory based on an unofficial election-day count given to the Associated Press. Hell, she and the AP may have been set up by this.....and progressives, even some here, were telling her that she needed to declare victory to create some sort of appearance of inevitability. It is her right to challenge all of this, but she wouldn't have all this egg on her face if she waited. Franken didn't need to declare victory, before the count was official, in order to win. This isn't over yet, but she ends up looking stupid.

If we want to claim incompetance, it will cost one woman her job (maybe), but it won't change the result. If we want to claim fraud, then we need facts. We need to get to the bottom of this "computer error" or "human error".
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:13 PM
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48. Brought this on herself? Egg on her face?
Seriously skewed way of looking at things. It doesn't make anyone look stupid to declare victory based on the AP saying it is so. It doesn't matter what the end result is (mistake, fraud, whatever) it doesn't make anyone other than the election officials look stupid. There is no "egg on her face" and I'm sure she isn't (and shouldn't be) embarrassed to have believed the results.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:14 PM
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50. That is total BS - reThugs declare victory all the time even for things
They don't have any idea of what the hell it is! The reThugs always believe in creating their own "facts" on the ground and argue in its favor with or without the real facts - all the time. So don't pull that fast one - please!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:37 PM
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51. Franken was a few votes behind after the first count
That would have made it a bit difficult for him to declare victory.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:20 PM
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59. There might be "egg" on someones face, but it's not Justice Kloppenburgs. She did the right thing
declaring victory and I can promise you that had the pube been ahead by 204 votes, they wouldn't have hesitated to claim victory. I can only think of one person that looks stupid in all of this. I don't ever give the benefit of the doubt to people in the Republicon party who continuously lie, cheat, and manipulate conversation to get their own way and divide this country. All one has to do is pull their head out of their ass to smell clean air and see the light. The Republicons are psychotic, thieving hypocrites who have proven by past actions, to be criminals as well. Head, out of ass, equals light and clean air which allows one to see the truth and breath clean air (well, as clean as the deregulation by Republicons) allows it to be.
Lou
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:15 PM
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62. error or crime? there's a difference.
wisconsin law most likely spells out the chain of data in elections. was that chain violated here or not?

if it was, i assume the law would hold those votes invalid.
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truckin Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:26 PM
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49. I hope she plans to perform a recount of the paper ballots to
verify the accuracy of the scanners.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:41 PM
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60. Tough to make up a margin of thousands
with a scanner recount.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 06:05 PM
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57. Suggestion
Just don't employ the same Democrats that got to the bottom of the 2000 Presidential Election in Florida! They are not good at this!

-90% Jimmy
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:11 PM
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61. why are they not questioning the legality of her action on its face?
I mean this is an election for high court. kloppenurg ought to know if what was done was legal or not.
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