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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:07 PM
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Dear DU, this WI SC election is not the totality of our fight. It's a piece of it.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 09:08 PM by PeaceNikki
Please stop acting like "it's over" based on the outcome of this race. If there's one thing you guys should know after the last 8 weeks, Wisconsin Dems will not give up. If there was fraud, we'll find it. If there was incompetence, we'll expose it to the light of day.

And if in the end Klopp loses, we fucked some shit up. This was a non-partisan spring election with ONE statewide race. We We lifted Kloppenburg up from a THIRTY POINT DEFICIT she held 8 weeks ago. To get it CLOSE to 50/50 is a fucking miracle.

Also, it was NOT 7k votes "found", stop saying that. It's 14,000 with a net gain of 7.7k for Prosser. That was a whole city. If it were blue, I'd want them certified, too. It has been confirmed by a Democratic observer that the 14k was missing from #'s given to media Tuesday.

The claim is that the City of Brookfield's #'s were not in the #'s given to media (mistakenly omitted from the Access database on her PC). Unofficial #'s. During certification, they caught it yesterday and contacted GAB. Since then, they've been counting and verifying - confirming the gain of 14,314 votes. My Democratic CD chair spoke to the Democratic rep who was overseeing.

Should it have happened? no
Is the clerk an incompetent asshole? yes
Fraud? Doesn't look that way
Should we keep looking? yes

We have 8 recalls in the works, 2 filed. We're not done and this election was not the totality of our fight. It is one piece.

I am not a troll who doesn't give a shit so also kindly stop those implications. This is *MY* fight, *MY* state, *MY* county. I give a shit.

-Peace
A proud Waukesha County Democrat
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:11 PM
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1. Thank you, Nikki. I am looking forward to the recalls already.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 09:11 PM by ClarkUSA
:yourock:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:12 PM
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2. I swear to fucking God, being called a troll here tonight is makin' me crazy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:14 PM
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4. It's a Rite of Passage
B-)
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:16 PM
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7. Your wisdom and maturity are foreign to those who refuse to see the big picture.
:hug:
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:24 PM
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15. Thanks. :)
:hug:
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:16 PM
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8. Thank you for providing real information...
I think the majority greatly appreciate it.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:19 PM
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11. I'm trying. If there's fraud, I want it screamed from the mountaintops.
If it was a legitimate incompetent mistake, I cannot support disenfranchising an entire fucking city because she's an asshole.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:24 PM
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16. Gad.
There seems to be some question as to the percentage of that city's population that voted, a rather remarkable sudden increase in population(?) and participation at the ballot box. Trying to find the place where I read that. . .

Admire your determination, feel your frustration, we're with you.


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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:25 PM
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18. They had 20k vote in November. 14k for this election jives.
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Ed Suspicious Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:21 PM
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13. I just don't understand your vehemence that it will all be alright if
we just chill the hell out.

I'm guessing that it's because you don't want the air to run out of the balloon yet. You're afraid we'll give up the fight on the next batch of important objectives if we become discouraged by the election results?

It's also my fight as a citizen of this great state, and I also want to keep the energy high. I hope it wasn't me you thought was calling you a troll. I just happen to appear to feel a little more outraged by the appearances of it all. I suppose I should envy your cool head and ability to keep your eyes on the prize. An impartial judge on the Supreme Court was a pretty nice prize though. :)
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:23 PM
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14. It's not "vehemence that it will all be alright", it's letting the facts work themselves out.
As I said just upthread: If there's fraud, I want it screamed from the mountaintops. If it was a legitimate incompetent mistake, I cannot support disenfranchising an entire fucking city because she's an asshole.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:14 PM
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3. Thank You. And I apologize for the dumb-asses giving you crap.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:24 PM
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17. Thanks, Kitty!
And thanks for having my back in that other one! :)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:15 PM
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5. May the strength of giants be with you.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:26 PM
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19. Thanks!
:)
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:15 PM
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6. Do you know what turnout was like?
...and in terms of the state's eligible voter numbers?

Thanks
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:17 PM
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9. Where? Waukesha County?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:18 PM
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10. Yeah
well, and any info you have about statewide

Thanks
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:20 PM
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12. I probably read the same #'s you do. Obviously I voted and it was really high in my really small
really red community.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:04 PM
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21. Just heard it was 53% in Brookfield.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:57 PM
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20. Imma just kick this one more time for the night.
For all of the troll-hunters.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:07 PM
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22. I respect your intellectual honesty in this
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 10:09 PM by Armstead
It's easy to cry "fraud" when the results are not what one wants.

It's hard to accept, and publicly defend, the results in such a situation when there is such a disappointing twist of fate.

This whole situation does sound crazy, at least and certainly does raise suspicions....That makes it even harder to take an objective view. So your level head is appreciated.

Anyway, keep up the good fight.
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