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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:56 PM
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Poll question: What happened in Waukesha to give Prosser several thousand more votes today?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:58 PM
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1. You know, When all these stupid "errors" occur, they ALWAYS favor the repuke.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 08:59 PM by in_cog_ni_to
This was FRAUD, pure and simple. Now, someone needs to prove it.
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:48 AM
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17. Have you forgotten Franken-Coleman already?
Coleman had the most votes election night, and the canvas and recount changed that.

That's what is happening here, canvas then recount.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:59 PM
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2. I didn't vote (yet) but wanted to point out that Nikolaus fraudulently
represented her "saving" the data on her computer. There is no "save" feature in Access (thanks techies on the ASS thread). Also the folks on that thread have pointed out that Access is very easily hacked.

She was also Prosser's employee in the past.

Something just smells very fishy here....
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:05 PM
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4. I agree. The more closely you look at what happened, and at her background, the more suspicious
this seems.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:07 PM
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5. is there a time stamp anyplace?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:59 PM
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3. The canvassing resumes tomorrow. Maybe they'll find 10,000 lost votes for Kloppenburg ;) n/t
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:11 PM
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6. My suspicions are high, shades of Ohio circa 2004. A thorough forensic investigation is called for
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:22 PM
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8. +1
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:12 PM
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7. being from WA
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 09:13 PM by TheWebHead
and seeing what happened in the Rossi and Gregoire recount with found votes, I'm open minded about this kind of thing happening, while also realizing that in both cases, those who are heavily partisan in either instance have or will rage for years about the outcome. The Democrat involved in the count in the county, Ramona Kitzinger, defended Nickolaus, so I'm not donning a tinfoil hat in this case. With Don Siegelman I'm very skeptical of the process, not so much in this case.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:25 PM
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10. Didn't Rossi fight and fight and sue in court...?
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 09:25 PM by upi402
I just love how Republicans fight. Even when they have lied and cheated the whole way, they still act like they are legit, remain organized, and never give up.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:48 AM
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14. I used to work with one of the big time right wing bloggers in the Gregoire recount...
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 02:51 AM by cascadiance
... about 10 years earlier in California.

He'd always had quite an ego, but didn't realize he swung that far right in those days.

Remember the fun of that race...



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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:15 AM
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16. There were NO "found votes" in King County. There were ballots that were held out-
--without being counted because of signature matching problems. For years these ballots were just ignored if their total number was less than the difference between candidate vote totals. (Many years of this no harm, no foul attitude left the system unable to handle a real stress test.) King County Council member Larry Phillips did some investigation and found that his absentee ballot was not counted due to signature mismatch, which led to a demand by Democrats that all of the names of voters with signature mismatches be made public. Dems tracked down people who were likely to be supporters, and personally collected new signature forms and hand delivered them to the elections department. The Repukes could have done the same, but chose not to.

The end result was that a state law was passed the following year requiring all county elections departments to notify voters of mismatches once by mail and twice by phone calls to allow them to resubmit signature forms.

BTW, there was machine cheating in Snohomish, where voters complained about touch screens refusing to register votes for Gregoire. Optically scanned ballots in those precincts favored Gregoire, while the machine count favored Rossi. A lawsuit challenging the ES&S proprietary lawsuit failed, so the machine totals were never audited, but accepted as is.

The Diebold opscanning turned out to be acceptable in King County. There were two machine counts (one with central scanning for mail-ins plus polling place scans; the other with all the ballots rescanned centrally) and one handcount (which Repukes unsuccessfully tried to fuck with). All were within 0.1% of each other, and reassuringly, the hand count added a small number of votes to each of the three candidates' totals. (Errors in optical canning tend to be slight undercounts, for the same reason that your printer occassionally picks up more than one piece of paper.)

It is still almost impossible to explain to the scientifically illiterate that we still don't know who won, and cannot know even in principle, because the difference between the two major candidates was less than the 0.1% measurement error rate.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:24 PM
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9. Election fraud
Pending investigation. Repukes have not earned the view that they are trustworthy.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:37 PM
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11. Fraud.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:48 PM
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12. Current results: Fraud - 50 votes (74%). Incompetence - 7 votes (10%). Uncertain - 11 votes (16%)
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:22 PM
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13. kick
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:51 AM
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15. A hand recount of paper ballots will solve this one way or another n/t
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:22 PM
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18. kick
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