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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:47 PM
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Poll question: Is this racist?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:48 PM
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1. Personally, I'd call it stupid, not racist.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:50 PM
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5. +1
How old is that song?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:52 PM
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8. 20 years old
Man, that's one hip, edgy cartoonist.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:52 PM
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9. Indeed
Conservative humor sucks. There's never any depth, or intelligence, or even wit.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:50 PM
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2. Racist, not much.
Stupid, yes, a boat load.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:50 PM
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3. Racist and stupid!
Interesting to see the white woman knows about OPMs.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:50 PM
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4. Mike Lester is a moron.
What did he think Bush waged the Iraq War with, his personal checking account and some Green Stamps?
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:51 PM
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6. more stupid than racist. nt.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:52 PM
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7. If it's a Cagle cartoon, the simplest answer is that it's just crap.
Frankly, I think the artist was pretty understated in making Obama look like a rapper. Some of them look ridiculous; at least Obama's wearing a tie!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:54 PM
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10. Racist and extremely stupid and not at all humorous.....

..... Plus, using a song from the early 1990s? Not the hippest cartoonist in the world, n'est-ce pas?


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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:55 PM
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11. For those who don't know about the Naughty by Nature song, OPP....
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 09:02 PM by aikoaiko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O.P.P._%28song%29

"O.P.P." is a 1991 song recorded by rap group Naughty by Nature. The song made it to the U.S. Top Ten (peaking at #6), propelling their self titled album Naughty by Nature to platinum status. The song's declaration "Down Wit' OPP" was a popular catchphrase in the U.S. in the early-'90s. Its beat is sampled from Melvin Bliss' "Synthetic Substitution", with instrumentation samples from Jackson 5's "ABC" in which Alphonzo Mizell, Freddie Perren, Deke Richards, and Berry Gordy Jr. got a writing credit for the song. It was a hugely successful single, as Allmusic described "There was not a bigger, more contagious crossover radio smash in the autumn of 1991 than Naughty by Nature's O.P.P.'" <1>

The song was one of the first rap songs to become a pop hit when it reached number 6 in the U.S. and number 35 in the UK in 1991. MTV picked up on its video, and it got heavy airplay on Yo! MTV Raps that year, inspiring a remake of the song as "Down Wit' MTV."

The title is an acronym for "other people's pussy"; when the song asks if the listener is "down with O.P.P.", it's asking if he/she is willing to have sexual relations with a person who is known to already have a significant other. Lead rapper Treach coyly obscures the meaning of the second "P" (which is meant to refer to either "pussy" or "penis") using euphemisms throughout the song saying instead of pussy that it is "another way to call a cat a kitten" or instead of penis a "five-letter word rhyming with cleanest or meanest." In the lyrics following, the rap defines the third "P" as "property" to "do it sorta properly."

Treach was inspired to write the lyrics by a neighborhood dealer who used to move in on other dealers' territories and say he was "Down With O.P.M. Other People's Money." <2>

Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xGuGSDsDrM

Funny how this cartoon brings the concept full circle.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:55 PM
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12. Yes. Very much so.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:56 PM
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13. Many cartoonists find it necessary at times to draw attention to themselves.
This is such moment for Lester.

Whatever.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:57 PM
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14. 1. Unfuckingfunny 2. Stupid as dog turds. 3. Willfully racist.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:00 PM
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16. That was my impression too
And you put it better than I could have
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:55 PM
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27. Well, thank ya
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:59 PM
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15. Check the overstatement of the ears and lips.
Ask yourself why anyone would draw a President with a baseball cap on sideways.

Ask yourself when was the last time anyone associated rap music with the President of the United States.

It is quite obviously racist, and the cartoonist knew it too as you can see from his choice of support characters.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:02 PM
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17. I was curious about the big red nose
and thought the lips were normal, until you mentioned it and I looked again. He has three lips!

This fool can't even draw :)
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:05 PM
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18. Racist and extremely dated...
Backdated bigotry. Also horrible drawings, just awful.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:06 PM
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19. Let me add Taxes are NOT OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY
That money belongs to the Federal Government, not 'other people'
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iris27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:20 PM
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20. What does it say about me, that my first reaction to the cartoon was "Those lyrics are wrong!"
(Beyond just changing OPP to OPM, obviously.)

:rofl:
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lunasun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:23 PM
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21. Yes Obama talks like that all the time not
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:26 PM
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22. Obama is black, ergo he must like rap music
No, it's not racist to insinuate that.

Just like it's not racist for George Allen to assume that a black reporter played sports.

:sarcasm:
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:29 PM
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23. I am sure its something
Glenn Beck would find humorous. Me, not so much. It is stupid...period.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:47 PM
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24. truly stupid
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:56 PM
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25. Of course it is.
And ignorant as well. NOBODY loved "Other People's Money" more than Saint-King Shrubya-the-Deficient, but they loooooved him.
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Tresalisa Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:03 PM
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26. Incredibly stupid? Yes. Racist? No. n/t
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