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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:26 PM
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THINGS HAVE TO CHANGE
The other night I found myself weeping as I read about Japan dumping radioactive water into the sea. I thought about the huge dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico and what the oil spill is doing to the environment and the health of the folks living there. A small handful of insane, greedy people are making decisions that are destroying our lives and the lives of everything on the planet.

The following day my sister sent me this article. She was diagnosed with thyroid cancer, had to have her thyroid removed and is recovering from the surgery. Her boss sent her this article about the EPIDEMIC of thyroid cancer in Eastern Pennsylvania (where she has lived all her life) - linked to radiation from nuclear power plants. Pennsylvania has the highest rate of thyroid cancer in the US. (http://www.radiation.org/press/pressreleaseThyroid10012... )

Yesterday I listened to the news about Republican efforts to cut back Medicare. THE VERY SAME DAMNED PEOPLE responsible for creating a toxic and cancerous environment are the ones cutting off access to health care or making it completely unaffordable.

I am more furious than I have ever been in my entire life. But what to do? I can't think of a single thing more important than making sure we have a LIVABLE planet. NOTHING matters more than that because if all the fish in the sea die or our very drinking water gives us cancer - NOTHING else matters. Nothing.

Who are these evil people? Are they just short sighted and greedy or are they freaking demons or space aliens or something. And WHEN are we going to get together and stop them?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:31 PM
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1. I think the current crop of 'Murkins were kicked out of hell.
Didn't meet the minimum standards.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:33 PM
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2. heh. thanks for the laugh.
I don't believe in hell but I sure wish the people responsible have to live with the consequences of their evil. Just them, not other people.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:37 PM
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5. I don't literally believe in hell, either, but when you're describing the current circumstances
it's the only image that fits.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:38 PM
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7. I know.
:-)
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:35 PM
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3. Some don't wanna see who "them" is
Going to make stopping "them" even harder when some of "them" is us.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:20 PM
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14. Yep, very good point, it cuts across everything. Some of them is us! n/t
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:36 PM
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4. They are Speeding Up Their Efforts to Kill Medicare Because of Fukushima
They know what all the radiation being released from Fukushima is going to do to us,
and they want to kill off Medicare before the wave of cancer starts to kick in.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:38 PM
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6. Really, the irony (if you can call it that) just struck me so sharply
That the very same people who are blocking the possibility of single payer health care, blocking the means to allow health care access to every citizen, are the very same assholes making decisions that allow nuclear power plants, massive oil spills, and dismantling the EPA.

I hate them.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:43 PM
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8. I've often thought about your last statement. "Who are these evil people?" IMO they
are literally destroying everything, and here IMO they are completely un-American, akin to terrorists. Are they "freaking demons or space aliens or something." I'm sometimes entertaining the answer is yes.

I do think much as other species are extinct humans will follow along. I thought in 2008 we were going to make major changes in the country, but it's constantly clear to me that these people with wealth and power cornered are pulling the levers of power behind the scenes intent on destroying earth and humanity if necessary to achieve their result of self-enhancement of wealth fueled by compulsive and endless greed.

The way to stop them is to cut their source of money and wealth.




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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:46 PM
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9. That's the worst part emotionally - every time it seems like we make some progress...
they just entrench themselves more insidiously.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:53 PM
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10. Yes, it's like a gross insidious viral infection without a cure but amputation. n/t
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:28 AM
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16. Aliens. I think we should do citizen's arrests by hundreds of people hauling them
to ready made prisons. We cannot go on like this anymore.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 08:31 AM
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18. It's gotten way over the top. We, as a nation, look, sound and act like fools anymore to the
rest of the world. I'm really beginning to think there are just two types of people in the world, those that are progressive, and those that are destructive.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:59 PM
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11. Isn't it obvious?
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 08:01 PM by Gregorian
I always feel the same as if I were talking about some crazy conspiracy theory whenever I bring this up. But it's so obvious it's hard for me to believe people don't see it. It's the sea of cars on the highways. It's the fields that are now houses, stores, roads. It's global warming. It's wars for oil. IT is the monster of billions of people all trying to eat, clothe, work, get medical care, energy. Billions of people simply cannot do this without deforestation, depletion of resources, and competition for space and water eventually. It's called over-population. And it isn't just some thing that can be ignored. It isn't some oddball thing that only the overly sensitive talk about. It is not going to go away until we pay attention to it. And it is, not unlike politics, up to each individual to be personally responsible for. Just because we aren't going to double in the next 20 years doesn't mean it's all going to be ok now. We're in trouble at this population. Just Japan, for example. The carbon footprint of that earthquake is yet to be discovered. Massive. Just that one event. So WE are THEY.


By the way, the point I'm trying to make is that even if we change one thing, it's a multitude of others. Even if we change to solar, that is only one fraction of the issue we face. The real problem is not the symptoms we see.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:03 PM
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12. I agree with you in some respects
certainly about the sustainability of the current population.

However - there are people who have actively blocked research and development of cleaner fuels, sustainable agriculture, and access to health care, etc. - and THOSE people AREN'T us.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:16 PM
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13. Yes, over-population is a root cause. We are living in each others garbage. And
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 08:18 PM by RKP5637
layered on that we have idiots, for one example, like the teabaggers. We could save humanity, but many people just don't get what's going on, and IMO humans are very slow learners. Most don't pay attention until something smacks them in the nose. The problem with the impending disasters we have in the coming decades is there is not going to be a second chance to get it right.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:25 PM
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15. There was a movie in the 80's called
They Live. Where it turned out, they actually are aliens trying to take over the planet.

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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:01 AM
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17. Your post made me go listen to a Bacharach/Costello collaboration
from a few years back called "Who are the People"

Sadly, just as relevant today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKraLpgqWkA

Could only find the non-explicit version on youtube, but I think the explicit version stronger - difference is the one word at the end.

http://www.bacharachonline.com/bacharach_lyrics_chords/...

Who Are These People?

Lyrics by Burt Bacharach and Tonio K.

Who are these people that keep telling us lies
And how did these people get control of our lives
And wholl stop the violence cause its out of control?
Make em stop


Who are these people that destroy everything
And sell off the future for whatever it brings
And what kind of leaders cant admit when theyre wrong?
Make em stop


This stupid mess were in just keeps getting worse
So many people dying needlessly
Looks like the liars may inherit the earth
Even pretending to pray
And getting away with it


Who are these people that keep telling us lies
And how did these people get control of our lives
And wholl stop the violence cause its out of control?
Weve got to make them stop


Who are these people that keep telling us lies
And how did these people get control of our lives
and wholl stop the violence cause its out of control?
Make em stop


See things really have to change
Before its too late

Explicit version ends:
See things really have to change or we're all fucked

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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:34 AM
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19. Wish I could rec this 100 times
"I can't think of a single thing more important than making sure we have a LIVABLE planet."

What I cannot understand is that somehow all these corporate sociopaths seem to think the poisoned air and water, the poisoned soil, the damaged ozone layer, the radioactive materials, the acid rain, the dying animals and plants, somehow won't affect THEM or their families.

Do they think their gated mansions will somehow protect them from breathing toxic air?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:41 AM
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20. Agree absolutely. But sadly "The environment" doesn't make many people's top ten
list as a priority. The media ignores it for the large part as well; things are STILL a mess here on the Florida Gulf coast and will be for generations, but the media sees it as yesterday's news. When I hear people say that the environment isn't important because "technology will solve all of our problems" I have to remind them that technology couldn't plug the oil gusher for months and it sure as hell hasn't kept radiation from contaminating the sea near the nuke plant in Japan.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:16 PM
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21. I blame religion. It's a great way to delude yourself that despite all of our
Destructiveness, we will somehow be saved from ourselves. Probably by some magical old guy in the sky who is just waiting for the right moment to swoop us all up to safety....or something.

Its amazing how many people really believe that kind of stuff. Personally, I think we're fucked.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 12:22 PM
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24. Some people think aliens are going to save us
clean up our pollution and radiation. Seriously, there are folks who think that.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 12:22 PM
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22. They are evil, aren't they. Heartless and evil.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 01:31 PM
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23. Whatever these people have, a disease or something else--
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 01:32 PM by felix_numinous
their refusal to be open to ANY discussion is effectively excluding themselves from the rest of the population. They consider themselves, through religious, blood or other sense of entitlement, to be above discussing anything with us---which feels very cold and ruthless--and alien, reptilian, creepy.

Having the avenue of bargaining and discourse completely cut off, we are being forced to take another course. I think these 'inhumane' people need to be recalled.
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