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TaylorWatts Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:26 PM
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Why don't conservatives understand the quality of education
is related to how much you pay teachers?

They always talk free market solutions, but it never occurs to them that spitting on teachers and cutting their pay is going to result in crappier teachers?

I can say that I've already applied to a bunch of jobs out of WI.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:27 PM
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1. You assume conservatives want people to get a good education...
I don't necessarily think that's a good assumption to make ;)
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:27 PM
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2. They DO understand that much.
And it scares them.

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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:28 PM
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3. They want people to be stupid and ignorant.
If people were well educated, their party would not exist. They WANT crappy teachers, and the cheaper the better.
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TaylorWatts Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:32 PM
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4. Well the top repukes want that, but what about the rank and file?
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themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:49 PM
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5. Many are just as rabidly anti-intellectual, leery of any education--the "liberal elites".
They are paranoid. It works for the GOP.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:39 AM
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20. many of the rank and file are also stupid and ignorant
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 07:39 AM by northernlights
and demand that everybody else to remain so, or else they may feel inferior. They also want to protect us from becoming elitist snobs.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:28 PM
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14. Sure is a funny comment! It sounds just like what a Republican would say!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:55 PM
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6. The quality/pay ratio only applies to CEOs n/t
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SlowFlowPro Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:07 PM
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8. With a free market, why wouldn't good teachers earn more?
if there wasn't a government-mandated salary based mostly on seniority, wouldn't the cream rise to the top?

a rising star in the teaching market would be worth a higher salary, be it at that teacher's current school or another school

most professors i know make a lot more at elite private universities compared to state-run universities (it varies widely by field, however)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:17 PM
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:44 AM
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23. Because good teachers don't increase profits
With a free market, why should we assume that we would get anything other than the lowest quality teachers at the lowest possible wages?
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:07 PM
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9. Is there something conservatives do understand?
That's a topic I'd love to see.
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tedbear Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:12 PM
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10. CONSERVATIVES
It isn't even about education - it is that they ONLY CARE ABOUT MONEY - AND THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES. Generally, they are too dense to understand that education along with collective bargaining improves the entire country - or more likely, they don't care because they are self-serving to the max.
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:40 AM
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21. They couldn't care less about improving the country
Their bank accounts is #1 through infinity...the rest of us can go to hell as far as they're concerned.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:30 PM
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15. The first four words of your question
Is all you really needed.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:30 PM
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16. Because It's Not
Parents have more effect on student grades than most teachers ever will.
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TaylorWatts Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:33 AM
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17. That may be true for little kids, but not for upper teens and
young adults.

Not all parents can teach their kids calculus.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:37 AM
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18. They understand it all right-for themselves.
The serfs and slaves they want illiterate. It makes them easier to control.
Look at how many slave holding societies made it illegal for a slave to read and write.
There was a reason for that, if they can't communicate with each other they can't plot an uprising.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:37 AM
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19. Rushpublicans Thrive On Ignorance...
The last thing a dittohead is is a free thinker. They want to be told what to think and over the past 30 years the GOTB mantra has been that the "intellegensia" (also called "liburls") are the enemy and they use education in "indoctrinate" the masses. It's demonizing the whole educational system and now it's demonizing anyone who is associated with it. Education breeds non-conformity...and that can't fit into the absolutist world of the great unhinged. The less one is educated, the more likely they are to swallow the right wing bullshit.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:40 AM
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22. They want...
... the poor to stay poor. They want to maintain and reinforce a class system wherein they are the chosen few based on the accident of birth.

You can see this attitude in most of their "thinking".
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