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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:37 PM
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Found: 7,000 GOP Votes. Oh, Yeah, 2012 Is Going To Be Totally Legit!
So keep on keeping on, folks! You know all the money and time and energy you pour into our electoral system, the better the chances of the election being on the up and up!

I mean, come on - the GOP has only had 12 YEARS to perfect their vote counting/controlling software and processes, and they've got their lawyers and tea bagger cannon fodder all lined up and ready to roll. How could any of this possiblty affect the 2012 outcome?

So let's all move forward like the lemmings we are expected to mimic, and TRUST that 2012 is going to turn out fair, square, and totally just fine.

Come on - we've got a billion dollars to pour into the election for just one candidate - we had better get busy if we're going to have enough cash to feed the system. After all, 2016 is just around the corner - can you imagine what THAT one is going to cost us? Yay, system!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:40 PM
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1. This is why we must overturn Citizen's United!!!
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:42 PM
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2. The republican operative has made an enormous mistake. nt
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:43 PM
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3. 14,000 with a net gain of 8k for Prosser.
They weren't "found" they just were mistakenly not included in totals Tues night. Our Democratic reps are on this.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:43 PM
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4. But how did the AP not notice this either? A zero where a town's votes
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 06:44 PM by pnwmom
should have been?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:45 PM
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6. AP only gets county totals. ward by ward doesn't get reported til after certification.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 06:48 PM by PeaceNikki
And it was DURING the certification that it was caught.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:49 PM
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11. The AP doesn't get that breakdown on election night.
They get how many precincts have reported and what the total for the county is.

It happened (to a lesser degree) in our favor on election night.

Right up until the end, there were two precincts in Milwaukee that hadn't reported yet. Some of us thought this would help us, but then we found out that those two precincts were in West Allis (which happens to be one of the few red precints in the county) and it looked like Prosser could pick up enough votes to put him over the top (with no other precincts left to make up the difference).

Then right at the end we found out that their figures HAD been included in the county total... they just hadn't been checked off of the precincts-reporting list.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:43 PM
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5. What if there really was an error? Did not Franken win when they did a recount?
I think we need to wait and see the facts before running around claiming fraud.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:46 PM
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7. +1
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:47 PM
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8. Yeah, I'm with you and I am IN Wisconsin. Waukesha County, even.
My Dem CD chair has spoken with the dem rep, it seems like a legit mistake.

Should it have happened? no
Is the clerk an incompetent asshole? yes
Fraud? Doesn't look that way
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:48 PM
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10. Thanks for your input, PeaceNikki. I really appreciate your commentary on this.
:fistbump:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:49 PM
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12. I'm so sorry....
But I'll keep hoping that there's something illegitimate about the votes any way.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:50 PM
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13. Yeah, me, too. Get that... feel it, but jumping to conclusions is bad.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 06:51 PM by PeaceNikki
In addition, if a mistake like this happened in a blue city/county, I'd be fighting for the votes to count, too.

And... Waukesha County Dems are awesome, they are on this.
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Logical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:37 PM
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22. Thanks for being logical! Much respect!! n-t
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MrNJ Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:26 PM
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18. Good point.
I'd like JoAnne to win but the Democracy is more important.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:54 PM
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14. Don't care who it favors - it should be FAIR - period.
n/t
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:00 PM
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17. You do not know the facts and you are screaming fraud.
I am asking you this again. What if there was an error? You are making yourself look silly by jumping up and down and throwing out accusations without knowing the facts.
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:59 PM
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19. Of course, you are right - I am suspicious.
After being burned repeatedly in races big and small, to be vocally concerned in any way when appearences tend to favor what has become the rule - suspicious vote total changes with no backup records (ie, proof) - rather than the exception - secure voting with actual accountability - is what - unfittingly paranoid?

Sonmeone punches me repeatedly in the face - and when it looks like they are drawing back to punch me again - yeah, I flinch.

Sorry, I just cannot be Charlie Friggin' Brown...
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:58 PM
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16. self delete
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 07:07 PM by pintobean
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:58 PM
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15. I notice that Wisconsin does not have one govt agency responsible for elections in their counties.
IMO that is not good. If there are 25 cities, towns, etc in a county each of those jurisdictions are responsible for their elections. I would think that elections should be conducted by the county.
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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:08 PM
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20. Trying to find the good in this...
Next recall/election - more work! More voters. This may be a good thing, it may cause MORE outrage and bring more voters to the upcoming elections.

Use this to focus on the fact that nothing can be taken for granted - NOTHING.

Shine On Wisconsin, we are with you.

Annette
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JFN1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:34 PM
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21. The election clerk kept the computer in her office? For "security?"
Integ-rity, Integ-rity, our votes are sacred and true!!!!

Sing it with me. folks!
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