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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 05:25 PM
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For the second year in a row, a man convicted of killing has been given an Ed Bloch Courage Award
This time it is Dante' Stallworth of the Baltimore Ravens. This time the conviction was for DUI manslaughter.

http://www.pressboxonline.com/story.cfm?id=7151

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dont%C3%A9_Stallworth

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 05:28 PM
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1. Jesus, this place is getting seriously fucked up.
It's the other side that is supposed to be gleefully flipping the switch on the chair and building prisons and throwing away the key.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:03 PM
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2. pointing out that yet another damned felon football player is getting some kind of award is NOT
the same as demanding that these oh-so-wonderful human beings fry.

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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:25 PM
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7. And who said anything about the death penalty or life in prison?

Imaginary post?

:shrug:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:33 PM
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9. I thought lawyers were educated about logical fallacies. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:07 PM
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17. ...
:spray:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:55 PM
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10. Great histrionics
First, let's start with your pro death penalty accusation. You are way off base and you insult me by saying it. You have NO FUCKING IDEA what my views are on that score. I am frequently excoriated with I post my anti death penalty views. I would accept your apology if you are will to admit you spoke inappropriately about it.

Stallworth paid his dues and did so honorably. His life after the incident has been exemplary. That said, there is no doubt that he got a very light sentence. And to be cited as "courageous" for coming out of jail and going into the coddled, bubble world of an NFL player is the height of stupidity. What courage, exactly, did he show?

You want courage? Watch that innocent man walk with dignity to the death chamber for a crime committed by someone else.

I'm serious about the apology, counselor.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:13 PM
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3. It doesn't bother me that he got this award.
Edited on Tue Dec-28-10 06:19 PM by some guy
:shrug:

He hit a person with his car; the person died. He pled guilty because he felt it was the morally correct thing to do. He was sentenced, served his time.

He didn't deliberately kill any beings. He didn't callously inflict pain on a living being.

edit to add: his post-collision actions seem to underscore that he understood the pain he caused the family; he didn't drag the case out and extend their pain.

He paid a financial settlement to them - obviously not as good as having the person back in their life, but he couldn't have accomplished that anyway, so money is all he could have given, and did so without adding to their suffering.

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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:17 PM
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4. Sorry, but when you drive drunk
You have callously decided you don't give a rat's ass about other people's lives.
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:21 PM
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5. True.
And sometimes a person learns lessons vicariously, other times people have to learn lessons first-hand.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:28 PM
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8. And I'll just bet...
...the family of Stallworth's victim are so glad he's learned a lesson now... maybe. :sarcasm: Maybe they can be present at the ceremony to hand him his big hero award.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 11:03 AM
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12. Some men learn by reading...
Some by observation, and some have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. There's no honor in such peeing.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-10 06:24 PM
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6. He should be in prison for murder, IMO. nt
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 07:38 AM
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11. Should anyone who drives drunk be in prison for attempted murder?
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 01:48 PM
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15. Yes.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:11 PM
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18. Since I don't think a charge for "attempted manslaughter" could exist*,
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 02:12 PM by blondeatlast
my inclination is yes.

*In the case of DUI, it might be time to create such a law.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 02:58 PM
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19. The charge of attempted manslaughter does exist in quite a few states
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mythology Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 01:45 PM
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13. To be fair
when the guy who was hit ran across the middle of the road in relatively early morning hours, not in a cross walk, he also declared that he didn't care that much about his life.

Additionally the victim's family agreed to the limited time in prison, yes as part of a settlement, but no amount of time in jail was going to raise the deceased.

The police and prosecutor's office both lauded Stallworth's willingness to accept responsibility and lack of any previous record indicated that a decreased sentence was warranted.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 01:48 PM
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14. Agreed. That's murder imo, even if he felt bad about it afterwards.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-10 01:53 PM
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16. how many awards have george bush, bill clinton & bush senior been given?
Edited on Wed Dec-29-10 01:53 PM by Hannah Bell
if your outrage is that killers are given awards, why not focus on those whose killing was deliberate & in the millions?
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