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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:17 PM
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I'm pretty sick and tired of all the whining about how terrible the repukes are.
They're crazy. They're evil. They're tools of the oligarchs who are trying (rather successfully) to destroy the New Deal and the New Society legislation. I GET IT! But we (many of us) busted our asses getting the Democratic Party back in power 3 years ago and look where it got us. We have been systematically betrayed by the Democratic leadership AND Obama. Right now there is only one group of people I hold responsible for the mess we're in and it's the DLC fucks, the Third Way fucks and Obama who promised us he would fight hard and proceeded to fold like a bad table. I'm tired of putting these fucks in power only to be stabbed in the back and kicked in the teeth. From now on, no money, no volunteering and ABSOLUTELY NO VOTES until the we get real leadership who represents us. If that finally means a new political party, I will be the first to sign up.

Signed,
A lifelong loyal Democrat who's loyal no more.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:19 PM
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1. So you want to hand the government to the most evil people
since the Nazi's? Yeah because that worked out soooo well in Wisconsin.
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:21 PM
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4. And you want to keep handing the gov't to people who sell out to evil people.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 04:22 PM by Stoic
How's that working out for you?
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:29 PM
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17. Well I'm not dead and still have the ability to talk to my reps
If the republicans really get power, all that goes completely away.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:21 PM
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2. yeah? well there are a fuck of a lot more whingy posts about awful democrats
here than awful pukes. I prefer to focus on the pukes.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:37 PM
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34. I feel the same way you do but I sure don't agree with the way you communicate it.
What is "whingy"?
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:40 PM
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37. It's the British version of "whiny"
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:53 PM
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54. Well...
The female version of Norm Crosby is so adept at making others feel small, I thought maybe she knew something I didn't.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:21 PM
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3. Apparently your username is a misnomer.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 04:21 PM by cliffordu
Or, irony.
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:23 PM
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8. I haven't yet put a gun in my mouth so maybe it isn't. n/t
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:22 PM
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5. "Obama is weak. He will fold like a lawnchair."
So are our alleged representitives. I'm fucking D O N E.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:23 PM
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9. yeah? my reps to congress are great and they damned well do represent me
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:28 PM
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16. You can have the greatest Reps in the world.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 04:28 PM by Stoic
Mine used to be Elijah Cummings before I moved. But with Obama cutting deals and caving every chance he gets it doesn't mean a thing.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:30 PM
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20. Of course it does. It's all that keeps the worst at bay
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:47 PM
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49. You keep pushing the bar back on worst.
And if I predicted each and every act Obama (extending the tax breaks for the rich, war in Afghanistan and Libya to name two) has made before his election I would have been called insane.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:01 PM
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56. Your method would be to let go of the bar completely.
To give up on the Dems and let the Rethugs take over.

You're deluding yourself if you think some new third party has a better chance.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:03 PM
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57. for the love of reason, I'm not pushing the bar at all. I'm telling you
flat out that letting the pukes control everything would be far worse than where we are now. It's that fucking simple. Really.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:22 PM
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6. oh and I love my dem governor, my dem rep and my dem senator
unrec.
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:24 PM
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11. I came from Maryland with fantastic Dem leadership.
Too bad we couldn't swap them for the current crop in D.C.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:46 PM
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46. Rubbing that in our faces? How nice of you. A lot of us aren't as fortunate,
through no fault of our own (for example, Wisconsin SC race should have been a slam dunk, right?)

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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:46 PM
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48. You got your pony,
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:23 PM
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7. Most ironic post on DU today
Congrats - that's quite the feat!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:24 PM
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:26 PM
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12. A new leftist political party will only guarantee a Rethug win.
Been there, done that.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:27 PM
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:30 PM
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21. We're losing RIGHT NOW!
Or maybe you haven't noticed
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:33 PM
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26. We'd be much worse off with the Rethugs fully in control.
As it is, they have some of the Governorships and control of the House of Representatives.
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:39 PM
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35. Really?! It's hard to imagine it being worse than this.
When somebody punches me and knocks me down is pretty bad but when my best friend holds my arms back so he can do it, it's worse.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:45 PM
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45. The Rethugs want to end unions, Medicare, and Social Security.
They want to ban abortions and they're against gay marriage.

The Dems are trying to hold back the tide but Red America comprises half the country and it's a nasty place.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:04 PM
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58. bwahahahahahaha.
really? do you want me to color it in for you? the end of Medicaid and Medicare and just about every other social program you can think of.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:06 PM
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60. Isn't that simply a problem with your imagination? Isn't that entirely your problem? n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:36 PM
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31. if you think this is bad, just think about how bad it would be if
the rethugs had complete control. It can get a lot worse.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:43 PM
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41. The sad thing is, we've already seen what total Republican rule
looks like (2001-2007), and yet apparently that still hasn't convinced some people that, yes, Republicans ARE worse than Democrats...even the conservative Democrats.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:46 PM
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47. And no one was trying to end unions then,
and the Rethugs were still pretending to support Social Security and Medicare.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:49 PM
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51. Don't forget the Teabaggers who have infested Congress.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:26 PM
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13. Suggestion: change your username.
:hi:
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:27 PM
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14. LOL. n/t
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:30 PM
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18. So you blame only Obama and Democrats for the mess we're in,
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 04:30 PM by NYC Liberal
and you're "tired" of criticizing Republicans?

there is only one group of people I hold responsible for the mess we're in and it's the DLC fucks, the Third Way fucks and Obama

Interesting.
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:32 PM
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23. I blame the leadership for selling out and FAILING to fight.
If they fought and lost that would be one thing, but they concede the battle EACH AND EVERY SINGLE TIME before the fight begins.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:33 PM
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24. You blame only Democrats for the mess we're in now,
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 04:34 PM by NYC Liberal
and want us to stop "whining about how terrible the repukes are"

Glad you consider criticizing Republicans "whining." Good luck with that.
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:43 PM
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40. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. N/T
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:44 PM
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44. I know exactly what I'm getting when I vote for someone.
If you don't, well that's on you.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:35 PM
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30. Disagree
You're seeing an oversimplistic view and calling it a "battle."

The very thing is the civilized nature of it all - Republicans cannot be defeated in "battle" it must be in elections.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:30 PM
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19. Obama has said that change happens when the majority get together and make it happen.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, and to always vote like your very life matters by it.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:31 PM
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22. +100000
Perfect quote to live by.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:40 PM
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36. word up!
:hi:
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:42 PM
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39. AND we get a real leader in the White House.
Not one who plays one on TV.
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:43 PM
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42. We have one, and a damn good one at that. n/t
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:48 PM
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50. I wish I lived in your dream world. n/t
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:53 PM
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53. My dream world is called reality. It is a nice place to visit on occassion. n/t
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:07 PM
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61. +1 for reality. n/t
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:23 PM
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66. -10 for Right Wing Reality
Since you all enjoy it so much. "I got a Corporatist President who is in many ways just like Dubya. YAY! I LOVE MY PRESIDENT!" :puke:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:29 PM
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67. At least I'm not doing everything I can to ensure an R victory in the voting booth, which the OP is
Perhaps you (and the OP) should look in the mirror.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:33 PM
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25. That is because there were still enough Republicans to
affect the vote.

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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:34 PM
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27. definition of
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 04:34 PM by AsahinaKimi
stoic/ˈstō-ik/
Noun: A person who can endure pain or hardship without showing their feelings or complaining.


(Irony indeed)
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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:37 PM
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33. I've stayed a Democrat since I first voted 36 years ago.
I've earned that moniker each and every election.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:34 PM
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28. Soooo...
what's your plan for getting this new and improved political party?

Or is the plan to just drop out until someone else does it?


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Stoic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:41 PM
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38. I had a plan. I voted for Obama.
Plan not working.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:08 PM
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62. So your solution is to do everything in your power in the voting booth to ensure a Republican
victory.

There really isn't much of a meaningful difference between those who enable Republicans and claim they are on the right, and those who enable Republicans and claim they are on the left.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:13 PM
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64. I didn't ask about your previous plan...
I asked about your plan for getting a better or different party now.

Refusing to support what's available now probably isn't going to go a long way toward actually creating something better.




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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:34 PM
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29. :
:popcorn:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:36 PM
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32. You're my hero.
:thumbsup:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:44 PM
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43. Fail nt
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:51 PM
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52. When will we purge the DLC out of our Party
I've been saying this for years and progressive dems just stick their fingers in their ears. We will never have a viable progressive agenda if we do not purge this cancer from the party.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:59 PM
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55. Hear, hear!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:06 PM
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59. Then go somewhere else! NOBODY CARES!
:eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:08 PM
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63. Unrec. If you have a suggestion to make it better, then share. Otherwise,
you're whining yourself.
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pinkkillersheep Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:22 PM
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65. I hear you. Does anyone here really think Obama isn't bought and paid for by Wall St?
I'll still vote for him, but I doubt I'll donate to him. My time and money will be going towards Sen. Sherrod Brown. But lets be real, most of the powerful Democrats will sell us out in a heartbeat to score a high-paying lobbying job or VIP loans (coughDoddcough).
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:34 PM
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68. Locking
For several reasons, including expressing intent not to vote or to vote third party.
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