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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:14 PM
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Commandments Crusade: La. Parish Ignores Court Rulings, Pushes Religious Display
Source: The Wall of Separation
April 7th, 2011
By Sandhya Bathija

According to a Louisiana newspaper, the Rapides Parish Police Jury has voted 8-1 to put the Ten Commandments on courtroom walls. (A police jury is what the people in some parts of Louisiana call their county council; its members are elected by the voters.)

The jury approved a motion to display the Decalogue, despite a strong warning from jury legal counsel.

There have been numerous court opinions that this would be inappropriate to do because of the tradition of church and state, attorney Tom Wells said. I know this is important to a lot of people, but my general opinion would be that this is inappropriate legally.

He, of course, is right.

LINK: http://blog.au.org/2011/04/07/commandments-crusade-la-p... /
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:18 PM
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1. Has Louisiana ever considered joining the United States?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:36 PM
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17. Just think, next hurricane more of us will die. You Americans will have less of us to worry about.

I'm sure it will make you feel warm and fuzzy, just like Katrina did.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 07:01 AM
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18. Give me a fucking break
Just commenting on the strangeness of your legal system and other things. As for your comments about Katrina. Well. Go fuck yourself.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:18 PM
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2. You can post the 10 commandments everywhere but
the republicans refuse to follow the very laws that they claim to love, so its not going to do anything.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:32 PM
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3. I am an atheist and don't see anything wrong with the 10 commandments..I
see nothing wrong in their message..
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:38 PM
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4. You're an atheist but you see nothing wrong with violating the separation of church and state?
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 06:29 PM
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15. I have never found that the 10 commandment are particularly religious
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:33 PM
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16. Setting aside for the moment the context in which they are said to have been given
these don't strike you as religious?

1.You shall have no other gods but me.

2.You shall not make unto you any graven images.

3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

4.You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:42 PM
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5. What are the first three commandments?
?
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:44 PM
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6. Not everyone is christian. Some of those rules are pretty offensive to other religions
(like not making idols, or not bowing down to them which are pretty standard for Hindus for example).

There's a reason we should care about a separation of church and state. It means one religion can't assert itself over others, can't shame others, can't have official status, and that those who believe differently (or not at all) aren't reminded of that every time they walk into a government place. It needs to be neutral territory for all.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:42 PM
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12. The Ten Commandments are not Christian
They were given to Moses, a Jew for the Jewish people to follow. If you want to post something from christianity, post the Beatitudes.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:43 PM
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13. Fine. Then they are Jewish. The point remains the same. nt
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:21 PM
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7. The issue isn't whether or not the 10 commandments are
right or wrong. The question is do religious groups have the right to proselytize their beliefs in public venues and if so, does that mean that other religions such as Islam and Judaism also may post their core beliefs in the same place?
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:30 PM
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8. I have a problem with what it says... and what it omits. nt
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:31 PM
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9. I wonder which version they prefer?
10 Commandments Roman Catholic Version

1. I am the Lord your God; you shall not have strange gods before me.

2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

3. Remember to keep holy the Lord's day

4. Honor your father and your mother.

5. You shall not kill.

6. You shall not commit adultery.

7. You shall not steal.

8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

9. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife.

10.You shall not covet you neighbor's goods.

Protestant Ten Commandments:

1.You shall have no other gods but me.

2.You shall not make unto you any graven images

3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain

4.You shall remember the Sabbath and keep it holy

5.Honor your mother and father

6.You shall not murder

7.You shall not commit adultery

8.You shall not steal

9.You shall not bear false witness

10.You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor

Jewish Ten Commandments

1. I am the Lord your God who brought you out of slavery in Egypt.

2. You shall have no other gods but me.

3. You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.

4. You shall remember and keep the Sabbath day holy.

5. Honor your father and mother.

6. You shall not murder.

7. You shall not commit adultery.

8. You shall not steal.

9. You shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

10. You shall not covet.






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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:47 PM
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11. Or the Egyptian Negative Confession?
The 42 Divine Principles of the Goddess Maat

1. I have not committed sin.

2. I have not committed robbery with violence.

3. I have not stolen.

4. I have not slain men or women

5. I have not stolen food.

6. I have not swindled offerings.

7. I have not stolen from God/Goddess.

8. I have not told lies.

9. I have not carried away food.

10. I have not cursed.

11. I have not closed my ears to truth

12. I have not committed adultery.

13. I have not made anyone cry.

14. I have not felt sorrow without reason

15. I have not assaulted anyone

16. I am not deceitful.

17. I have not stolen anyones land

18. I have not been an eavesdropper

19. I have not falsely accused anyone.

20. I have not been angry without reason.

21. I have not seduced anyones wife.

22. I have not polluted myself.

23. I have not terrorized anyone.

24. I have not disobeyed the Law.

25. I have not been exclusively angry.

26. I have not cursed God/Goddess.

27. I have not behaved with violence.

28. I have not caused disruption of peace.

29. I have not acted hastily or without thought.

30. I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern.

31. I have not exaggerated my words when speaking.

32. I have not worked evil.

33. I have not used evil thoughts, words or deeds.

34. I have not polluted the water

35. I have not spoken angrily or arrogantly.

36. I have not cursed anyone in thought, word or deeds.

37. I have not placed myself on a Pedestal.

38. I have not stolen what belongs to God/Goddess.

39. I have not stolen from or disrespected the deceased.

40. I have not taken food from a child.

41. I have not acted with insolence.

42. I have not destroyed property belonging to God/Goddess.
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Courtesy Flush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 02:31 PM
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10. The irony is...
these guys are creating legal precedents that will make it easier for other religions to do the same. They will be the first to scream about Muslim equivalents.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 05:44 PM
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14. I present to you the 15 commandments...


...no 10, 10 commandments!

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