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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:28 AM
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Study: US has 4M gay adults; 1.7 pct. of populace


By LISA LEFF, Associated Press
Associated Press April 7, 2011 07:32 AM Copyright Associated Press. All rights reserved. This
(04-07) 07:32 PDT San Francisco, CA (AP) --

A California demographer has released a best guess of how many gay men and lesbians there are in the U.S.

Gary Gates puts the figure at 4 million adults, representing 1.7 percent of the 18-and-over population.

That's much lower than the 3 to 5 percent that has been the conventional wisdom in the last two decades, based on other isolated studies. It's also a fraction of the figure put out by Alfred Kinsey, who said in the 1940s that 10 percent of the men he surveyed were "predominantly homosexual."

Gates has advised the Census Bureau. He's a demographer-in-residence at the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation Law and Public Policy at the University of California, Los Angeles.

He derived his results from five studies that asked subjects about their sexual orientations.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/0...

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/0...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:33 AM
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1. That figure is pretty close to the 2% figure...
That was given in the 80's as a result of a study in conjunction with the LA Mens Project, the first AIDS research outfit I ever heard about... UCLA I believe did the study. I can't find anything online. I knew a lot of people who were part of that study... the first wave who tested HIV positive.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:35 AM
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2. What's so scary about us again? Nt
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:37 AM
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4. We just hate that gays dress better than us and get all the chicks
:evilgrin:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:36 AM
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3. I would think the number is higher than that.
It would be interesting to know what the real numbers are. So many people keep under the radar.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:37 AM
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6. I think the same too.
The numbers of truly gay people and those who are bisexual is probably much higher than what you would ever find, even in an anonymous survey, because some people for some reason don't even admit it to themselves in this society that is so bigoted.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:38 AM
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7. don't forget, this number doesn't include those under 18
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:42 AM
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10. It's just a stupid thing to do.
Because no one will be honest enough at this point to have a real answer.

Maybe when society is more accepting of people, then it might be a more accurate survey.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:34 AM
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23. I would think so too, but it may be selection bias.
We are more likely than the general public to hang around with gay people.
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:37 AM
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5. I'm surprised it is this low.
I grew up in an area where no one, especially a teen, would have admitted to being gay, but as we are all older now, I am surprised by how many gay people were in my school and neighborhood. I would have guessed the population to be closer to 10%.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:39 AM
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8. 10% would be close t0 30 million people
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:41 AM
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9. I know.
I just figured based on my experience it woudl be high, because I am sure there were plenty that haven't come out of the closet yet.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:44 AM
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11. I would think at least 10%
Maybe even higher than that.

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guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:51 AM
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14. So the facts be damned?
Just living your own little fantasy world?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:02 AM
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18. It's easier to do a survey on a skin color, because you can't hide that...
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 11:03 AM by originalpckelly
even from yourself.

To take a survey about sexuality in a manner akin to that is silly. It's not solid all the time, there are some people who float around. Some people may have sex with men, yet consider themselves straight, which is a total mind fuck, but true and it does happen.

What you're getting here are people who are openly gay, or those who at least can admit it to themselves. You are not getting people who actually feel that way and lie about it to themselves or others.

There are some people who are genuinely hetero and do the same sex, but you have to wonder about people who do it time and again, and if they aren't lying.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:03 AM
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19. Uh...what's so "fantasy"
about more people being gay than this?

I'm openly gay, but I know far more people that are not openly gay. I was at work one day and got on the elevator and realized as people filed in that there was only one straight person on it. Two were executives, three were engineers like myself, and four others were administrative personnel. Only two of us were out - me, and one of the executives.

Sexuality is also fluid. Just as married people divorce and get involved in a gay relationship, gay people occasionally break up and get married to the opposite sex. Many people also stay married and deny that they are gay because of societal pressures.

I'd be much more interested to hear of a study in a country with much more open views on homosexuality.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:49 AM
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13. It could easily be a far higher percentage in certain areas...
Long Beach and San Francisco CA for example have far more gays than the national average.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:48 AM
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12. That report seems to just be counting gay or bi men
The report claims; "An estimated 3.5% of adults in the United States identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual andan estimated 0.3% of adults are transgender.

This implies that there are approximately 9 million LGBT Americans, a figure roughly equivalent to the population of New Jersey".

Here is the link to the report. http://www.scribd.com/doc/52481941/How-many-people-are-...
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:52 AM
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15. I doubt that the percentage of gay people per population
changes by country.Much as the percentage of left handers is consistent throughout the world.
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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:57 AM
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16. According to a 2000 study that this guy was involved in there were 10mil in the US
Where did 6 million of us go in 11 years? Particularly when you consider that those under 18 that hadn't been counted between now and then. This seems hinky or lack of a better term. Or am I misunderstanding what I'm reading below?

http://www.urban.org/publications/1000491.html

Studies on the total number of gay and lesbian people in the United States show a range from 2 percent to 10 percent of the total population. In the last three elections, the Voter News Service exit poll registered the gay vote between 4 percent and 5 percent. While concluding that the Census 2000 undercounted the total number of gay or lesbian households, for the purposes of this study, we estimate the gay and lesbian population at 5 percent of the total U.S. population over 18 years of age, (209,128,094). This results in an estimated total gay and lesbian population of 10,456,405. A recent study of gay and lesbian voting habits conducted by Harris Interactive determined that 30 percent of gay and lesbian people are living in a committed relationship in the same residence. Black, Gates, et. al2 find a similar figure in their study recently published in "Demography." Using that figure, we suggest that 3,136,921 gay or lesbian people are living in the United States in committed relationships in the same residence. Census 2000 counted 1,202,418 gay and lesbian people in committed relationships. Under the assumptions stated above, this represents an undercount of 62 percent.
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Change has come Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:01 AM
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17. Please see post 12. The headline is wrong.
:hi:
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:17 AM
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20. Anectdotally, that number seems way low.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:19 AM
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21. That sounds about right -- for California alone
so apparently there aren't any LGBT people in the rest of the country. :sarcasm:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:28 AM
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22. I would think it would be alot higher
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:24 PM
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24. Is this openly gay or closet cases too?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:50 PM
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25. I find it hard to believe the percentage is that low
I think the 10% figure is likely too high but we consistently score as 4% of voters and I don't think we are over twice as likely to vote than non gays.
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