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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:19 AM
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Conservative Bible Project
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 09:23 AM by Rocknrule
This is old news, but I just now got wind of it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/05/conservative-b...

Lo and behold, the Bible has gotten too liberal, according to a group of conservatives. And it needs a little editing.

That's the inspiration behind the Conservative Bible Project, which seeks to take the text back to its supposed right-wing roots.

Yes, even scripture is not orthodox enough for the modern conservative. Not that it's the fault of the author(s), exactly. The group cites a few reasons why the Bible is too progressive: "Lack of precision in the original language ... lack of precision in modern language" and "translation bias in converting the original language to the modern one."

So how can the Bible be conservatized? The group has proposed a Wikipedia-like group editing project. Some of the ideas would only bring the translation closer to the original. But others would fundamentally change the text.

1. Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias
2. Not Emasculated: avoiding unisex, "gender inclusive" language, and other modern emasculation of Christianity
3. Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level<3>
4. Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;<4> defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle".
5. Combat Harmful Addiction: combating addiction by using modern terms for it, such as "gamble" rather than "cast lots";<5> using modern political terms, such as "register" rather than "enroll" for the census
6. Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.
7. Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning
8. Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story
9. Credit Open-Mindedness of Disciples: crediting open-mindedness, often found in youngsters like the eyewitnesses Mark and John, the authors of two of the Gospels
10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

So let's see...

"There is no god but Gawd, and Bush is His Prophet"

"Thou shalt not be a queer"

"Thou shalt not kill aborted fetuses (everything else is fair game)"

"Thy right to bear arms shalt not be infringed"

Sounds about right. What did I leave out?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:29 AM
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1. Ummm . . . in reference to item 3. . . . if they don't dumb it down, how is their target audience
supposed to read it?
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:06 AM
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10. It appears #3 is in direct contradiction to 5,7, & 10
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 11:07 AM by Viking12
Don't dumb it down but dumb it down by using 'modern' terms, explaining things, and get rid of all those confusing words. :crazy:
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:33 AM
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2. Do they not know--Jesus is a Liberal. Stop with the Revisionist
History, Conservatives. Does that "Blessed are the
Peacemakers " get to you? Or how about--"how we
treat the the least among us?? or just plain old
"Love thy neighbor as thy self".

That New Testament can challenge can it not.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:45 AM
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3. Everyone knows King James was a socialist. (nt)
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:24 PM
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12. And Gay
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:18 PM
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14. Hehe. Indeed! (nt)
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 03:28 PM
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18. So he was a king AND a queen, huh?
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:08 AM
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4. What, again?
Can't they get it right?
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:18 AM
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5. I'm pretty sure there's a strong verse in there promising damnation for whoever changes
even a single word. If the Bible is supposed to be "divinely inspired", then it stands to reason that God WANTED to use a deliberately imprecise language and to have all those odd little anachronisms and inconsistencies. There must be a higher purpose for it. It must take an extraordinary amount of twisted logic and circular reasoning to simultaneously claim that every word of the Bible is literally true, AND that the Bible is flawed and needs to be "revised".

This proves more than anything, to me, that modern right-wing fundie Christians are nothing more than a bunch of political fakes who use their claimed "faith" as an excuse to indulge their hatred, greed, and selfishness. They don't really believe in God or the Bible; if they did, they'd understand that "identifying as a fundamentalist Christian" and "supporting the political revision of the Bible" are completely incompatible and contradictory positions to take.
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felix_numinous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:34 AM
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6. These people need to check themselves into Jesusland
and leave the rest of us the f-ck alone.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:57 AM
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7. Rocknrule
Rocknrule

It is a old warning, in the end of the Bible.. Who states "no thing about this book shall be shanged or made different.. If they do.. Eternal hell wil be your end...

Diclotican
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mwooldri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:33 PM
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17. Yep. True - to a point tho...
... can be interpreted as meaning to the Book of Revelations only. The Bible isn't one book.

Although Rev 22:21 IMO contradicts Rev 22:18-19, as IMO we are *all* God's people - even if you believe otherwise... but that's my belief and if yours is different, well that's cool with me.

On a side note though, what Bible are they going to start off with? Lots of Baptist churches use the King James Bible as their only Bible and any other versions are frowned upon. Given how the KJV came into being... I can only think that it is used because the English used in that Bible is quite dated and confuses a lot of todays' English speakers. A bit like before the Bible was translated into English that the Bible was read in church in Latin and it would confuse the heck out of the congregation because it's a foreign tongue.




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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 10:59 AM
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8. Guess the bible doesn't contain enough hatred and killing for them
Just what the world needs, more bible-based hatred and death
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 11:01 AM
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9. They think the Bible is the lieral word of God, but they feel that they can "edit" it.
Its too funny.

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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:19 PM
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11. They have their own constitution...so why not a Bible?
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:25 PM
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13. They can slip in the Book of Reagan
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:24 PM
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15. Don't think they won't try!
:rofl:

Fundies are such maroons.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:27 PM
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16. Well I guess that story about Jesus throwing the money changers out of the temple
is due for a rewrite.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 03:30 PM
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19. Years from now, Bible scholars will be wondering
how words like "America", "communist", "2nd Amendment", and "abortion" got in there
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 03:32 PM
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20. You left out what most "progressives" leave out.. which is the predominant theme of the Bible.
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 03:33 PM by bobbolink
POVERTY.

The bias shows.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:14 PM
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21. It's already been done.....
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Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:20 PM
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22. I'd love to see their translation of the Beatitudes. nt
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Dj13Francis Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:22 PM
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23. I've got a response.
I sent this link to a few groups lately.

http://youtu.be/7g5WKKs2sog

That church in Gainesville that burned the Koran, to that rightie organization that published that op-ed that said Muslims shouldn't be afforded 1st ammendment rights in America, and to the Westboro Baptists.

And as of this moment I've not been struck by lightning. In fact I'm feeling pretty good about it.

www.davidjamesfrancis.com
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