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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:01 PM
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Resident pot smokers.
I looked for a forum or group to address this but didn't see one. (So mods, if there is one please feel free to move this.)

So I feel like I'm being drugged by my son's pot. Second hand vapors, I guess it would be called. He doesn't burn. But he vaporizes some very strong medical grade pot on pretty much a daily (sometimes all day) basis.

I'll have many days in a row when I feel so sleepy it's like I'm drugged. I fall asleep sitting at my desk and I can't wake myself up no matter what I try. Shower. Walk. Coffee. Energy drink. It's awful. And I usually have a ragging migraine that comes from or during it. (Smoking pot has triggered migraines in me since I was young, even though people say it's not possible.)

So I've begged him not to partake in the house because of the awful smell. (I can smell it from every room in the house and even outside the house.) And I notice when he complies because the house doesn't stink to high heaven. But just recently I'm realizing that I don't feel like death on those days either.

Is this possible?
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:05 PM
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1. .
:popcorn:
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:06 PM
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3. Scooch over and pass the popcorn...
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:06 PM
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2. I have a horrible reaction to both pot and cig smoke
its usually respiratory though, and itchiness. Second hand and fatigue might be connected but you might have other health issues too. If you can, I'd go see a doc for a checkup. Lots of things can cause that kind of fatigue and many could be quickly corrected.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:06 PM
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4. Clarification needed.
You don't feel "like death" on the days he doesn't smoke/vaporize/whatever in the house or on the days he does?
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:13 PM
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11. I get sleepy
and feel drugged when he does vaporize in the house.

I definitely feel like death when the smell is strong and wafting through the house. Up until now, I thought the smell alone was triggering migraines, at the very least. But the sleepy thing happens on those days too and magically stop when the air is clear.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:18 PM
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16. Your House
tell him to take it outside.

any smell can cause a reaction to sensitive folks
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:55 AM
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56. To expound on the above reply, don't just tell him to take it outside, tell him to take it to anothe
Edited on Thu Apr-07-11 07:55 AM by Shagbark Hickory
another property altogether.
Unless you're in a state where medical MJ is legal and he's got a prescription, you could very well be held liable if the cops show up.

And if you think you've got a headache now, just wait until you get arrested for it.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:20 PM
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67. It is legal.
And he has a script. Everyone in my family has one (except me).
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:08 PM
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5. It's called a contact high. nt
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:14 PM
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13. VAporizing has no second hand smoke.....
...at least mine doesn't. I have a portable and you can't smell a thing after I vap, and I use medical grade pot, as well.
If he's stinkin up the house, he must be burning some. Vaporizers don't combust pot, they only heat it to the temp where it releases the chemicals
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:00 PM
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41. Many people don't vaperize correctly and burn it
I'm guessing that's what's going on. There should be no smoke and it should smell a bit like popcorn, otherwise it's too hot and your burning it.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:50 AM
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55. You're probably correct
Impatience.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:33 AM
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61. Thank you, I'm not buying this.
I can't imagine anyone could get a contact high from vaporizing. Hell, it's pretty damn hard to get a contact high when someone's cheeching up the whole room. I'm guessing this "contact high" is being caused by something else.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:10 PM
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6. Vaporizing shouldn't cause "pot smell"...
not at my house, anyway.

Ask him to look into edibles and tinctures. You don't say what state you're from, but all the dispensaries in CA that I know have lots of edibles and tinctures.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:20 PM
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17. Yes. CA
And he's always trying to talk me into trying the edibles FOR my migraines. I just can't. I'm afraid of how sick I would get.

Anyway, I don't think the smell comes from the vapor as much as it's just the pot itself. I can smell it from his prescription bottles in his desk drawer. My sensitive nose is a curse I've lived with all my life. I can smell things miles away that other people can't. Could this pot be so strong that the smell alone is drugging me? I know there are people laughing up thread, but this is serious. It is hurting my ability to function normally, not to mention how bad I feel.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:25 PM
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19. As far as I know, the smell can do no harm
The bud has to be heated to release the chemicals that cause the high. Sounds more like you might have an allergy. A small amount of potent bud can smell up a house in a hurry.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:31 PM
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22. Honestly I think you would enjoy edibles immensely
I don't know anyone who doesn't.

Just take a small amount and give it two hours to kick in. Ahhhh, nice. :)
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:10 PM
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7. Well since it's happening to you, I guess it's possible. Maybe he should be more considerate. nt
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:23 PM
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18. "Maybe he should be more considerate."
That is one of the reasons I'm asking about it. I haven't really made it an issue with him yet. I want to be sure I am being reasonable before I make demands of him.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:34 PM
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27. If you feel sick from it, or even
if you just don't want your house to smell that way, it's very reasonable to ask him to take it outside.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 04:10 AM
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54. You are being reasonable. Sounds much more like an allergy, though--
--than a reaction to the psychotropic molecules in the pot. Still, it's your house.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:10 PM
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8. Brother always got
Migraines from smoking. Really don't know about the rest. :shrug:
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:26 PM
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20. Your brother?
No one has ever believed me. But I swear it's true. It's like the death drug to me. How has your brother handled it?
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:28 PM
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45. Just sent him a text
I'll letcha know if he has any recommendations when he gets back to me. He's on the east coast though so it'll prolly be in the morning.

I do know his roomies used a vaporizer. So it wasn't smoke, but it still created an odor.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 07:56 PM
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66. K he said
the migraines would come in clusters lasting over a period of weeks. That steam would help reduce them if he caught it early enough. Once he moved out he never had them again so it is possible that it was an allergic reaction. Was it the pot or maybe something else in the house? Difficult to determine. If nothing else, maybe steam will help alleviate your symptoms?
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:21 PM
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68. Thanks, abelenkpe.
I appreciate the time you've taken on my behalf.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:11 PM
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9. If it's your house, tell, don't ask.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:31 PM
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23. His father has told him TO
smoke it in the house, so the neighbors won't complain. He denies I have migraines even while I'm puking my guts out from one and would be the last person to back me up on this. If it were up to me there would be no pot at all in this house.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:37 PM
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29. 'If it were up to me there would be no pot at all in this house.'
Maybe that is the reason for all you ills, you won't accept it in your house and now your body agrees with you. Like I said, some of it is mental and the other probably is physical. I've smelt that pungent smell quite a few times in my life and it CAN get very overpowering - even at a live concert indoors. I think I exited the building that night through a roof opening.
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Liquorice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:49 PM
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38. Wow, it sounds like you're being undermined
and dismissed in your own home. That really sucks. And I wonder, why is your son smoking so much pot? Is he sick or something?? I mean getting high once in a while is something a lot of people do, but smoking it all day every day? That's a lot of pot and would probably be expensive.

If my mom were puking and sick from something I was doing, I would immediately quit doing it. And if I were sick and puking from something someone else was doing, my husband wouldn't deny my symptoms! He would tell the person making me sick to stop it! Jesus. I bet you're furious over this. I know I would be. I'm sorry to hear you're going through that!
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:12 PM
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10. Tell him to open the window!
It sounds like some of it is psychosomatic, but some of it could be possible. Is he is a well ventilated room? Put fabric softener in his rooms air duct, it should help a little with the smell. That is if you guys are using a lot of AC. Not a resident, but know that what you say can be possible. I've heard people say that they get headaches from pot, so maybe you do too.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:37 PM
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30. You've "heard people say that they get headaches from pot"
I've never met anyone else that does, but I really do. But that's been direct smoking in the past. It just seems like second hand or the smell alone shouldn't be enough to make me react.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:57 PM
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47. Maybe not if you are allergic to pot.
You could be showing an allergic reaction to the chemicals in the air. Just remembered an old friend that likes pot, but cannot smoke it anymore because of allergies (it makes him sick). I am really wondering that that is your case too. Do you suffer from allergies?
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:39 PM
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33. fabric softener---there is a smell that can make you sick!
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:25 PM
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69. Febreze Is Nauseating
Every time I buy something from eBay, I send a message to please don't use Febreze, to no avail. Every damn piece of clothing smells like that shit - once I threw away a blouse...washed it many times, hung it in the sun, still that stink was there.

Febreze triggers migraines for me.

Fabric softeners also leave a film on clothes that is highly flammable.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:13 PM
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12. does he vaporize directly into the room?
otherwise, no, you're not getting a contact high

Maybe you have some reaction to the smell, I don't know.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:40 PM
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34. He does directly into his room.
I guess it might just be a reaction to the smell like I thought in the beginning. Feeling drugged is what makes me think it's more, though.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:43 PM
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36. I mean, does he inhale that which he vaporizes?
If not, I guess you could be directly inhaling the vaporized THC, even though that seems unlikely. Tell him he can't do it for a few days, stop it altogether, then see if there's a change.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:15 PM
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14. are you sure it's pot? seriously
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:27 PM
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21. That is very true, have you have a medical checkup lately.
Blaming the pot may be a bad mistake...go get checked out by a doctor.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:41 PM
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35. Actually, I have.
But my doctor is cool, so I will ask him what he thinks about the pot.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:33 PM
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26. It's pot.
The stinkiest I've ever smelled, though. I'm sure my sensitive nose makes it appear worse to me than it does to other people.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:17 PM
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15. Never heard of that reaction before
Especially not to vaporized pot. It releases far less environmental particles than smoking.

But I suppose if you have a sensitivity to it, even a low level may have an effect...
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Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:33 PM
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25. Maybe allergic to chlorophyll.? I've heard of that.
Do you have reactions to fresh cut lawns?

If you really have this reaction, he has to move.

Or else he there has to be a unit built, a converted garage, a back yard "Granny unit."
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:45 PM
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37. Chlorophyll?
I don't know. We only have a small patch of lawn and it does make me feel ill when the gardeners cut it but I've always assumed it was the gas fumes from the mower. That's something I will look into. Thanks!
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:32 PM
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24. The only advice I can offer is, just send me all his product and I will dispose of it
in an appropriate manner.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:49 PM
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39. I'd be happy to send it to you, lol,
if I could just tear it away from him. I'm hoping he'll grow out of this phase he's in of over indulging. He's really doing too much of it, imo.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:09 PM
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44. What a coincidence. I'm not doing enough!!!
;)
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:35 PM
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28. Is there a way
he can do it where the scent or whatever (never used a vaporizer myself) confined to an area? Such as bedroom with the window open and a fan going?

Other than that, I'm not sure how to help you.
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DeadEyeDyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:37 PM
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31. You are experiencing a social high
It is a known phenomena. It works for those that have been previously high. What is happening is that "sense memories" are being called up and you are "replaying" a high.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:38 PM
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32. You may well be allergic or have some other reaction to it
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 10:40 PM by Duer 157099
There's always an exception and if you're having symptoms, then it affects you.

How about a few HEPA air purifiers in the house, in various rooms?

Many people have chemical sensitivities, and each one varies. This could be yours.

I hope you guys resolve it to both of your satisfaction.

Look into air purifiers.

PS: I get headaches and migraines triggered by certain scents, such as Axe products and certain air fresheners. It's crazy.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:03 PM
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42. the most reasonable comment/explanation/piece of advice in the entire thread, imo

cheers and good luck to the OP!

:hi:
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:08 AM
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58. The other reasonable advice is to check CO levels in the house
Carbon monoxide can kill, but can also cause the symptoms the OP is experiencing.
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roman7 Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:50 PM
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40. you might be missing something
her last line suggest that she felt like dieing in her post contact high days
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:05 PM
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43. Ask him to open a window and blow it out there
The vapors from vaporizing fall to the ground quicker than smoke - it's the oils, so it's pretty heavy
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:54 PM
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46. Some people have told me they are allergic to pot. Maybe you are allergic to pot? nt
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:58 PM
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48. How DARE you blame pot for being anything less than perfect!
:yoiks:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:00 AM
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49. If you raise enough of a ruckus, he will stop.
Is there perhaps a garage he could use instead? That would be marginally better at least. Now, if it was me, I'd demand it and not request it, and follow through with actions if he didn't comply...
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 12:44 AM
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50. a neighbor says she went into anaphylactic shock from the pot smoke of a big next-door party
When she moved into the building, she told all the tenants about that (with her hand on her obviously pregnant belly).

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:00 AM
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51. Check your house for carbon monoxide.
Make sure your water heater, gas stove, etc. are all venting properly.

Carbon monoxide causes headaches and sleepiness in low doses.

In higher doses, it kills you.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 01:03 AM
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52. +1
good advice
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:38 AM
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63. this is an excellent suggestion !
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:07 AM
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65. +100000.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 03:55 AM
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53. Tell your son to smoke outside n/t
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:00 AM
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57. Make him take it outside
put your foot down on this one, even if it's hard. Or maybe as others suggested he's not doing it properly... I don't know.

I used to smoke pot frequently myself, but at some point I started having severe panic attacks whenever I did. Had to stop - I can't even handle being in the same room as pot smoke anymore. If it's hurting your health, don't let him do it in the house.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:21 AM
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59. How old is this son?
Seems like a cogent question.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:22 AM
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60. It's possible to have a reaction to just about anything, sure /nt
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 08:37 AM
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62. It's called a contact high
and yes you are feeling it's effects. If he does have his prescription then smoking it in the back yard
should be the best option for you both. I hesitate telling you this only because I would hate for any harrasment
occur do to the more public aspect of smoking it outside. How well do you know your neighbors?

My best to you both.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-11 09:04 AM
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64. You're a cheap date. It's all in your mind.
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