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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:46 PM
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The 'voting doesn't matter' and 'corporations control our democracy' canards take yet ANOTHER hit!
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 02:48 PM by UrbScotty
Kloppenburg's lead is 204 votes out of 1,479,976 cast.

A recount seems certain.

This is PEOPLE POWER in action!

Our country depends on ALL OF US to act, organize, and VOTE! No matter what we think of the candidates for any given office, someone WILL be elected.

It is our moral duty to support progressives running for office, to defeat blue dogs in primaries and thump the Party of Fail in general elections!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:49 PM
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1. I don't see it.
A "close" concession.


Aka: A release valve
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:59 PM
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9. No matter the results, this proves that people power matters!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:50 PM
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2. That's great, the last I checked last night Kloppenburg
was behind 5000 votes. I hope it holds up in the recount.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:52 PM
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3. Are you really saying that we don't have a challenge in
political battles with Big Corporate Money and the likes of the Koch Brothers?
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:56 PM
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6. NO! That's nowhere near what I said.
What I said is that, corporations do not have control of our democracy.

That's different from saying they're not a threat. They are, of course.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:53 PM
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4. Those corporations are terrified now! Yessir! They won't even game the recount!
n/t
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:58 PM
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7. You may be misinterpreting what I said.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 02:59 PM by UrbScotty
What I'm saying is that, no matter the results, this proves that voting DOES matter.

I never said they weren't trying to rig it.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:07 PM
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Okay, fair enough. Amends then on the post...
There's just so much establishment apologizing on this site, of late, it's hard to know what side some of the posters are on.

Yes, voting does still matter -- if everyone did it all the time, it could kind of call one of their bluffs. Of course, they have many other tricks up their sleeves when "democracy" occasionally gets "out of hand..."
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:07 PM
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12. Hmm... DU's software thinks it should be *double* amends...
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 03:07 PM by villager
But hopefully the one reply will suffice... ;-)
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:55 PM
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5. Thanks to WI for many things including this reminder to GOTV! nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:59 PM
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8. the idea that a Dem victory means lack of corporate control
is belied by the picture in your signature line.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:01 PM
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10. First of all, he's FAR more successful than almost any modern President.
And, might I say, FAR more progressive than most people realize.

Second, I never said that corporations have NO control - what I said is that they don't have ABSOLUTE control.
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davidthegnome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 03:05 PM
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11. K & R
I think perhaps you underestimate corporate power, but nonetheless, K & R because the vote DOES count.
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