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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:28 AM
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Ryan's "plan" nothing more than a sop to the Teabaggers.
Boehner and the Repub leadership understand that they cannot get everything the Teabaggers want in these budget negotiations. If they shut down the government, they will lose. So they needed a back- up plan that will keep the Teabaggers in their flock. That is why Ryan came out with a totally unrealistic and unbelievable proposal to cut the deficit by $6 trillion dollars and balance the budget in 10 years. The more unbelievable the proposal, the more believable it is to the Teabaggers. The entire purpose of the Ryan plan is to keep the Teabaggers under the Republican tent so they can beat Barack Obama in the next election, or so they think.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:31 AM
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1. Considering that the Tea Baggers are nothing but Die Hard GOP in the first place, What is the worry
Where else are they going to go? Does any one think they would rather vote for OBAMA?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:34 AM
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2. No, they would prefer to run one of their own...
...like Michele Bachman or Mike Pence. The Republican establishment is having a difficult time keeping the teabaggers under control. They are why the Repubs are threatening a "shutdown". They want more cuts than Boehner is able to give them.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:38 AM
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4. Boner panders to his base and Obama insults his. It makes no sense unless they are both the same
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:37 AM
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3. I think the worry is
that if the tantrum throwers known as teabaggers don't get what they want they'll be willing to throw their support to a certain to fail third party bid. Kind of like the old days and Ross Perot.

If they can peel off a commonly known puke teabagger like Bachmann or Ron/Rand Paul they may get their wish.

I for one would probably support a puke third party onto any ticket in the country.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:39 AM
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5. I think you are right.
That is their worry.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:39 AM
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6. I for one would probably support a puke third party onto any ticket in the country. AS would I
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:39 AM
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7. And David "Asshole" Brooks loves it!
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:52 AM
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8. Jesus that was nasty
If Ryan stops short, David Brooks head is going to be lodged somewhere between Ryans ileum and duodenum.

I notice Brooks conveniently forgets to mention all the tax breaks for corporations and rich folks that would add billions onto every budget for 10 years. He also forgot the little thing that Ryan stole from the Heritage foundation that would "assume" a <4% unemployment rate for the next 20 years.

I always thought Brooks put a bit more effort into his pieces.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:54 AM
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9. I think you're taking it much too lightly. It's a blueprint.
Should the repubs take the senate next election this is a very real direction.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:56 AM
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10. WE MUST CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING! AND THE TOP TAX RATES!
but not the military.

BUT CUT SPENDING!

:eyes:
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:57 AM
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11. Don't think so. It is intended to pull the entire discussion to the right, so that
when cuts to medicare, aid to the poor, education, health research etc happen the public will be relieved these programs weren't gutted entirely. This has been going on for years...pulling the discussion and congress to the right. Issue by issue, the public is left of the politicians. But what the MSM and politicians get done together is what the big money wants.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:33 PM
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12. Not really this must be voted on first with no amendments
according to Ezra Klein (if I heard correctly). There are a lot in the GOP that do not want to go on the record supporting abolishing Medicare and the tea party.
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