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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:38 AM
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4 Precinits to go: . Kloppenburg: 739,532 Prosser : 739,269
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:40 AM
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1. Another came in K=739,557 : P=739-317 this leaves
2 Milwaukee and 1 Jefferson precincts.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:43 AM
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5. No new precincts came in but she is 6 fewer votes ahead
K= 739,574
P= 739,350
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:42 AM
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2. I don't think I've ever seen a vote this close before
Of course there will be a recount but something like this should be shown to everyone that figures their vote doesn't count or doesn't matter.
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:43 AM
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6. Florida in 2000 supposedly came down to ~500 votes.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:05 AM
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27. Florida in 2000 never had a full recount. Gore would have won if it had.
There were over 26,000 votes thrown out in Duval County (Jacksonville) that were not verified. Most were from low income areas of town.
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ReturnoftheDjedi Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:42 AM
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3. now only 3
1 Jefferson
2 Milwaukee

I think Kloppenburg has it.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:42 AM
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4. 3 left
one in Jefferson (Prosser leaning) and 2 in Milwalkie.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:06 AM
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28. My understanding is that the Jefferson County precinct is in a Democratic area
While most of Jefferson County is red, the particular town this precinct is in is the most blue part of the county. I have heard conflicting info on the Milwaukee county precincts, some are saying it is a very blue collar part of the suburbs and others are saying it is a very red part of the suburbs. I guess we will see.
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Lovette Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:43 AM
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7. Yessss!
Hang in there Kloppenburg!!! :bounce: :bounce:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:44 AM
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8. Recount :(
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 10:49 AM by jillan
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:46 AM
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11. Against who
I don't think you can have a runoff unless there are more than two candidates and nobody gets more than 50%. Not even sure if that's what happens in WI.

In some places, especially with really small populations, and exact tie will be decided by high card or a coin flip. With this many votes it will probably be decided by recounts and the courts.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:49 AM
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14. I meant to say recount - lol..... that's what happens when you are middle aged and stayed up way too
late last nite watching the returns online, knowing you had to get up early :P
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:52 AM
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19. I should have recognized it at a typo sorry
Sick kids keeping us up late is my excuse.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:44 AM
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9. Jeezus.
Biting my nails in CA. :dem:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:48 AM
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13. Pulling out my hair here in Seattle. nt
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:49 AM
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15. Me too!
Biting mine in Georgia!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:44 AM
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10. LATEST Details here: I'm declaring the winner in Wisconsin Supreme Court race
I'm declaring the winner in Wisconsin Supreme Court race
Tue Apr-05-11 07:35 PM PST
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:55 AM
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21. You forgot to post this in the Hooters thread
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:04 AM
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26. There's a Hooters Thread?
why the hell was I not informed? Skinner has to add keyword searching and email alerts to this site ASAP. ;-)
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:06 AM
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29. lol. There's a Skinner thread, too.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:06 AM
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30. Actually there is a keyword search.....you just have to have the "star".
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:47 AM
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12. I cannot believe how tight this race is. I can't believe that half the voting
population favors the program being worked by the right wingers, even after all the revelations about Walker and the Kochs and having their rights assaulted. How fucking stupid can these people be?

I'm Thunderstruck by the whole goddamned thing.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:51 AM
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16. That's what I find most surprising. I 'assumed' that after the shit Walker pulled
and the HUGE backlash, it would be a reverse of the mid-terms. Everybody out!

The good thing is that the fine people of Wisconsin got off their butts to go vote, and didn't make the same assumption I did.


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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:52 AM
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18. They did, but....
....conservatives got off their butts and voted too! This election is more proof of how polarized our country is. And it's only going to get worse.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:54 AM
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20. Stupid Repukes are voting in big numbers. They feel..
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 10:54 AM by mvd
threatened. But so do we, so it's a good sign if we win this. It means our voters are energized again.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:59 AM
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25. But they're voting against their own best interests. This is what I just cannot fathom.
How do you just go out a vote for someone who will advance an agenda that wipes out your own rights?

My brain is smoking here from the gears grinding.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:06 AM
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31. It's just baffling. Probably multiple factors - ignorance,
the right wing media, racism, being misinformed, etc.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:50 AM
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34. Oh and RW money
That creates misinformation/propaganda.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:49 AM
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33. repugs get and vote now for everything.
They never shut up about their stupid ideas. It's always politics to them 24-7. Even the churches whip up the fear of Satan to get out the repug vote.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:29 PM
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41. This was for a judge and the Republican was the incumbent. Incumbent judges almost always win by
large margins. So to have it this close and the possibility that the incumbent could actually lose is the real surprise.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:51 AM
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17. 3 precincts left, we're up by 224 votes
The remaining precincts are two (2) from Milwaukee and one (1) from Jefferson (which is solidly conservative).

Assuming all the absentee ballots are reflected in the vote totals and Milwaukee's final precincts were active and reflect the trend of the rest of Milwaukee County, Kloppenburg should win.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:56 AM
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22. So, we don't know yet if all absantee ballots are included in the totals? If any? n/t
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:07 AM
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32. They have already been counted. They are in the totals.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 11:08 AM by Lochloosa
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:50 AM
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35. Thank you. n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:58 AM
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23. Yes, YOUR vote does count. This is something to watch
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 10:59 AM
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24. I smell a rat
again.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 11:52 AM
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36. I didn't want to say it and have been worrying about one particular king rat
But then again Rove's tactics are usually for his people to win by just enough to avoid a recount. And this doesn't appear to be happening. The very large turnout is the key to foiling Rovian measures.
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Johnny2X2X Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:01 PM
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37. No Automatic recount
Not in Wisconsin, the parties will have 3 days to show that there were serious counting errors in order to get a recount.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:10 PM
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38. It's all come down to a lone precinct in Jefferson County
All precincts are in except for 1 of Jefferson's 41 precints. We're ahead by 234 votes. Unfortunately, Prosser's lead in Jefferson so far is about 12,000 to 9,000. Unless this final precinct butts against the rest of the county, we're going to lose by a small margin.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:26 PM
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39. Kloppenburg could still win if the precinct only has a few hundred votes.
The split isn't that dramatic so it could take a good chunk of votes to overcome a 234 vote lead. And there is a chance this precinct is more Dem than the rest of the county. Of course there is chance it is less Dem also.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:27 PM
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40. It has between 700 and 760....
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:31 PM
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42. Based on the 58% margin hes getting out of there, it wouldnt be enough
Hed fall just short
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:40 PM
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43. Right, if there are 760 votes, it would be Rep, 739,795; Dem, 739, 908
113 votes - incredibly close and subject to change if there were even small errors along the way in the tally or if that precinct happens to be a bit more Rep. Wow, this is nerve wracking.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:44 PM
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44. The Milwaukee Journal....
...is reporting that there are only about 250 votes that were cast there. That would be great, but I think the union information which says it's more like 750 is accurate. If there were only 250 votes left to be counted, Kloppenburg would be claiming victory right now.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:49 PM
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46. Hmm. Are we sure that 750 isn't eligible voters? If so, 250 could be about right.
I doubt that Kloppenburg will claim victory even when all of the votes are in with it being this close. Better to wait until the results are certified at this point.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:07 PM
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47. I don't know, but the Lake Mills Local Newspaper....
...is saying it's b/w 700 and 760. Now, assuming 760 votes were cast, Kloppenburg would need to get at least 264 of them to win.

739,589 + 264 = 739,853
739,355 + 496 = 739,851
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 12:47 PM
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45. Lake Mills' Local Paper says 700-760 votes left uncounted
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:08 PM
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48. This source says 220 votes and Dem state rep for area says Prosser only picked up 2 votes so far.
State Rep. Kelda Helen Roys, a Democrat who represents the Lake Mills area, said Prosser picked up only 2 votes in Lake Mills, pending the count of 24 handwritten ballots.

The results of a single township in Jefferson County should be known by about 1 p.m. Wednesday after local officials finish examining votes from Tuesday's election.

About 220 votes were cast in Town of Lake Mills - seemingly not enough for Prosser to make up the votes he would need to defeat Kloppenburg.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/119308059.ht...
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:17 PM
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49. Wait - New numbers - (Prosser) 739,043 (Kloppenburg) 739,379; 1 precinct still out.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:24 PM by yellowcanine
AP must have added in a return twice. Crap. Hope there aren't any more mistakes like that, though Kloppenburg's margin increases if this is correct.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/files/elections/2011/by_co...
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:23 PM
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50. That increases our lead by about 100
AP still is not showing that Lake Mills has reported in yet. Why are some DU members celebrating already?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:26 PM
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53. Numbers changed again: Prosser 739,505 Kloppenburg 739,711; still showing 1 out.
Hard to know what is going on.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:29 PM
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54. I know
Maybe we should just leave and forget about this until the 6:30 news. This is too damn nerve-racking. Even after Lake Mills precinct reports in, all these numbers will have to be verified. As a former math teacher who uses excel spreadhsheets a lot, mistakes do happen.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:37 PM
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55. Also these are AP numbers. None of this is official.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:24 PM
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51. Revised AP Totals: 739,711 (K) to 739,505 (P) w/ 1 precinct still out.
739,505
50% 739,711
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:25 PM
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52. Lead down to 206
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:49 PM
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56. TPM says all precincts reported, Kloppenburg ahead by 204. But AP site doesn't show that.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 01:53 PM by yellowcanine
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/04/the-latest-k...


AP site says (P)739,508 to (K)739,714 and that 1 precinct still out. Maybe they just didn't change the precinct numbers?
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 01:54 PM
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57. Lake Mills' Local Paper Says Counting is COMPLETE
http://www.lakemillsleaderonline.com/main.asp?SectionID...

Prosser won the precinct by a 378-376 margin (razor close, just like the rest of the state!). So, assuming all the vote-counting is correct, Wisconsin has a new Supreme Court Justice!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:04 PM
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58. AP site must be out of step/wrong. Hopefully this lead holds up in recount.
There has also been talk of uncounted absentee ballots in Madison and uncounted military ballots. So who knows?
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:10 PM
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59. AP now has it (P) 739,886 - (K) 740, 090 with the 1 still out.
They are not earning any points here. Numbers shouldn't still be changing this much.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:14 PM
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60. Nope--ALL VOTES ARE IN
AP reports that all precincts have now reported.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 02:16 PM
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61. Ok now they show all precincts in with same numbers. Good for now.
Better to be ahead than behind but a 200 vote lead could disappear quickly in a recount. Argh. Too bad more Dems didn't turn out in Milwaukee. She could have won by 10 - 20 thousand votes easily.
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