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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:35 AM
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Kloppenburg result indicates that Wisconsin might not successfully recall Walker.
I'm not saying it isn't worth the effort, but let's face it. If Kloppenburg couldn't win this race in a landslide, then it's very unlikely Walker can successfully be recalled.

This was a statewide race, like the Walker recall will be. As an off-year and off-season election, this should have been easier for an energized opposition to swamp an unprepared incumbent widely seen as part of the problem. Even if she wins (and I pray she does) it's going to be by the skin of her teeth. With the anger in Wisconsin, it should have been hers indisputably.

In a year, the Republicans, Teabaggers, and Kochsuckers will be even more prepared than they were this time around. Can we keep the anger at the level it's at now? Sad to say, it's unlikely. This will make the anti-Walker crowd less likely to turn out to kick him out of office.

It's still possible, and as I said before still worth the effort, but this race tells us we might have to set our expectations to a more realistic level.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:38 AM
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1. I predict it will make us Progressives MORE determined the next round, esp
since the end result will be sooooooooo close. WE CAN DO IT.


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TaylorWatts Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:39 AM
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2. Kloppenburg is (was?) a very weak candidate, a strong candidate vs Walker would win
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:43 AM
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6. A recall won't have any candidate, weak or strong, vs. Walker.
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 07:43 AM by robcon
It would just call for a new election.
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TaylorWatts Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:43 AM
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7. I mean once the new election is called for of course
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bkkyosemite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:40 AM
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3. Or simply the election machines let's say are a little out of kilter seems suspicious to me
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:41 AM
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4. Well
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 07:44 AM by Puglover
there isn't a final result yet. And don't forget Kloppenberg was completely unknown a few months ago. Prosser would have sailed to a victory. Regardless of who wins I think there will be a long recount.

On edit:That said, I agree, a recall will be very diffcult but I believe doable.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:41 AM
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5. no wet blankets right now, please -nt
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:44 AM
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8. bullshit
Early polling showed him with as much as a 50 point lead. This is one of the greatest crash and burn stories in politics, rivaling the "Macaca" falla few years back.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:47 AM
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9. Looking at it another way, Kloppenburg was virtually unknown and way behind in the polls only in a
short time to move even to hopefully win this election. That is no small feat, and speaks volumes


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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:49 AM
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18. Exactly.
People don't know who she is, and they sure as hell know who Walker is.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:49 AM
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10. Well, that seems like judging the apples based on the oranges
So many things about Walker that don't apply directly to Prosser.

Including about 1 million attendances on Capitol Square decrying Walker's atrocities against workers.

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 07:50 AM
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11. We need less "set our expectations to a more realistic level" -
and MORE "tear it all down".
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JSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:10 AM
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12. Markos tweet:
"If people are this excited about a judicial race in Wisconsin, just wait until the recall elections are in full force."
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:18 AM
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13. Kloppenburg was practically unheard-of before this, and was facing a 30-year incumbent
Edited on Wed Apr-06-11 08:19 AM by Lyric
Prosser is practically an institution there. It would have been remarkable for her to get even 35% of the vote, especially in an off-year. Instead, she's in a dead heat to win in an election that had STARTLING levels of turnout for a simple judicial election. This is actually a positive sign about Walker's recall, because this says that if we get someone who IS well-known to run against him, we'll do even better.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:25 AM
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15. +1
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:22 AM
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14. Don't forget that this was officially a "nonpartisan" race not D vs. R...
You have many people that still are low information voters that vote party line and don't study the candidates in detail. Not as much probably in this election as in others, but there's still many that might be more apt to vote against Walker than voting in this election, when they aren't "guided" by which party is listed next to the candidates' names.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:41 AM
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16. You're 100% correct in the assertion. There will be many that
will detest it.
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titaniumsalute Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 08:48 AM
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17. Tea Bagger Party spent something like $3.1 million
This was completely unexpected monies the Tea Party spent on mostly ads for Prosser. this was unexpected. Remember, every dollar they spend on this kind of stuff they don't have for the next election.

Really this election, regardless the outcome, has been pretty amazing.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-06-11 09:05 AM
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19. Locking
The term Koch-Sucker is in reference to the word Cock-Sucker, which is a word that isn't allowed on DU. Feel free to re-post without the Koch-Sucker aspect.

Thanks,
Broken_Hero
DU Moderator
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