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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:37 PM
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Breaking: Supreme Court Overturns Brown v. Board (not kidding)
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 06:38 PM by jaysunb
from DK

Today Americas experiment in integrated education came to an end. Today the Supreme Court upheld Arizonas Tax voucher system in Arizona Christian School Tuition Organization v. Winn. The statute allowed Arizona tax payers to make donations to school tuition organization while filing their taxes. Any amount, up to $1000 (for a married couple) given, would then provide a dollar for dollar reduction in the State income tax due. These STOs would then decide how much money to give to applying students for enrollment in private school. Expressly upheld are religious based STOs that restrict scholarships to members of the sponsoring church.


Arizona Christian School Tuition Organization v. Winn http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-987.pdf
(See Section B. Section A rules on procedural grounds while B upholds the program).

more here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/04/963387/-Breaki... -(not-kidding)#?story_id=963387

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:40 PM
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1. still think the Christian Right aren't like the Nazis?
just let them have more power....
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:42 PM
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2. The SCOTUS is their best friend too. n/t
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 08:09 AM
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14. The Nazis were the christian right... n/t
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:48 PM
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3. Good lord, our battles are being lost. How is this even possible? nt
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:51 PM
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4. Busing to end in Wake County, N.C. Goodbye, school diversity?
Edited on Mon Apr-04-11 06:52 PM by madmax
Little by little chipping away at integration. That's what It looks like to me. When will the 'White Only' fountains return?

"Busing to end in Wake County, N.C. Goodbye, school diversity?

For a decade, Wake County, N.C., used busing to avoid having schools with high concentrations of students from poor families. Its school board voted this week to abandon its income-diversity goal in favor of a return to neighborhood schools."


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2010/0324/Busing...
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:53 PM
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5. 5-4 decision denies plaintiffs standing. Right-center Kennedy is the swing, as usual
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 07:03 PM
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11. Kennedy is one of the most extreme right wing jurist in a hundred years.
He is only describable as center in the context of having four of the nuttiest fuckers in American history sharing the bench with him.

He isn't a swing but rather a check on some of the more unfettered madness.

Every time you describe that bastard as anything like center you butterfly effect the political spectrum toward crazy as fuck.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 08:01 PM
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13. Speaking objectively, we'll get 5-4 or 4-5 decisions from this court,
depending on Kennedy's swing. I'll agree he swings right more often than left -- but that places him at the right-center of this court: I will, of course, agree that it's "in the context of having four of the nuttiest fuckers in American history sharing the bench with him"
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 10:59 AM
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15. All decisions aren't 5-4. I think people have been trained to oversimplify the court
and to focus on "hot button" cases.

I see four nutcases, an arch Conservative, a couple of left leaning centrists, a moderate, and a liberal.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:53 PM
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6. One more reason to re-elect President Obama and to regain
control of the House and Senate. There will be more SCOTUS appointments. Who will make them? It's up to all of us to make sure it is not a Republican.
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sensate2000 Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:57 PM
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7. That is pretty much how I decide how to vote.
Supreme court decisions can last a very long time. We need to appoint more judges.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 06:59 PM
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8. Indeed we do. Elections matter more than some people seem
to think. I can't imagine how that fact gets missed by so many.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 07:00 PM
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9. I see 2-3, maybe 4 SC appointments being made during the next term. nt
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 07:00 PM
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10. I see 2-4 SC appointments being made during the next term. nt
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 07:07 PM
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12. Argued on other DU threads
This one started 4:12 this afternoon (April 4, 2011):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-05-11 11:08 AM
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16. I need more.
As I understand this, the court upheld that a donation to a STO, even a church STO, can be treated as a tax credit (as opposed to simply an income deduction).

Currently, you can donate as much as you want to a church and get a deduction on your taxes. The church then sets your child's tuition.

Honestly, based on my understanding, I don't see why this is so fundamental (or how it has anything to do with Brown v Board).

I'd fully agree that it's stupid, but I'm having a hard time with "unconstitutional".

Please educate me.
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