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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:15 PM
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Newt Gingrich fears the US will be a secular atheist country dominated by radical Islamists
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/28/gingrich-fears-atheist-country-dominated-by-radical-islamists/?hpt=T2

Hours after declaring Sunday that he expects to be running for president within a month, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said he's worried the United States could be “a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists,” in the foreseeable future, according to Politico.

Gingrich was addressing Cornerstone Church, a megachurch in San Antonio, Texas, led by the Rev. John Hagee, an influential leader among American evangelicals. Hagee's endorsement of then-presidential candidate John McCain in 2008 was plagued by controversy.

Here’s what Gingrich said at Cornerstone Church on Sunday evening, according to Politico:

"I have two grandchildren: Maggie is 11; Robert is 9," Gingrich said at Cornerstone Church here. "I am convinced that if we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America, by the time they're my age they will be in a secular atheist country, potentially one dominated by radical Islamists and with no understanding of what it once meant to be an American."


Not only is he an amoral asshole, he's scared of radical atheist Muslims!

:crazy:
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:18 PM
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1. Secular Theocracy Now!!!!
Newt needs a brain... preferably one not from a Republican.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:20 PM
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2. I also wondered how you can have a secular atheist society
dominated by radical Islamists. I just don't think it works that way. Newt, Newt, Newt... :eyes:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:36 PM
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10. Ah, poor old Grampa Newty is entering his ''golden years' .
The old brain cells get overcrowded, ya' know, resulting in a case of flakey forgetfulness ala Ronnie Reagan.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:08 PM
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19. it doesn't need ot make sense just include the right words
to scare the right wing authoritarian followers enough to keep following the right wing authoritarian leaders even if it is straight off a cliff

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http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

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Maybe it’ll work that way for you too.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:28 AM
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32. yes, there seems to be a contradiction there
:freak:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:59 AM
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34. Oxymoron from the Moron of an OX
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:23 PM
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3. I'm more worried it'll become a totalitarian democratic dictatorship!
:woohoo:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:23 PM
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4. Radical atheist muslims.....hmmm
Nope, it STILL doesn't make sense to me.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:27 PM
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5. Score another one for the
theory that you can read what these kinds of people intend by considering what they say as a projection of the contents of their minds.

Just alter the words that convey who is going to take over and insert the actual terminology based on the trends we have been seeing in action.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:27 PM
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6. Well, he did manage to get the words "secular", "atheist", "radcial", and "Islamists" packed into
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 11:23 PM by Old and In the Way
one sentence. I think Newt wins the dog whistle award for that. I wonder if the audience broke out in howls after he made that observation? Had he gotten "humanist" included, he could have won the rhetorical quintfecta.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:37 PM
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11. LOL
v
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:14 PM
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21. He left out socialist, communist, and facist. I give him a B.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:29 PM
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7. That would be better than being controlled by Newt.
Him and his cadre of Christo-Fascists led by Palin and Bachmann scare me more than that scenario because the Islamists will never gain the power Newtie and his cohorts are aiming for.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:32 PM
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8. The cognitive dissonance is strong with Newt
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:34 PM
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9. he`ll say that shit as long as the rubes believe it.
he knows dam well the radical islamists will never dominate this country.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:22 PM
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22. But these aren't your normal radical Islamists
These are secular atheist radical Islamists. What do you have to say now???

Pwned!!!!!

:rofl:
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Cresent City Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:42 PM
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12. Once again the line between the Onion and the news is blurred
I can't call Newt a flip-flopper. He doesn't go back and forth, he holds contradictory postitions simultaneously. As pointed out in previous responses, he didn't even wait for the end of the sentence. "Turn left?" "That's right."
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:23 PM
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23. I was about to say the same the re The Onion...
When I read the OP title I thought, this has to be satire, a la The Onion...but I forgot this was a RW shill we're talking about.

Newties really outdong himself with the keyword/talking points, ain't he...

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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:44 PM
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13. Republicans created these paranoid freaks, now they have to pander to them!

What started out as a cynical campaign tactic to scare voters has now become a required article of belief. Being an intelligent Republican these days must be hell on earth.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:46 PM
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14. Wait...what?
Duuude.

I want some of what old Newty is smoking.
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jemelanson Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:59 PM
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16. Just what has the Newt dude been smoking?
He is off his ever loving rocker. Just the same old tired, wife cheating, truth challenged, idiot that he has always been. Could not trust him the last time, has not seen anything to make me change my opinion of him this time. Once a Newt always a Newt. I would trust him about as much as I would trust W. or any of the Bushes. It is just not a smart idea.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:54 PM
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15. That doesn't make any sense
but then again, his audience wouldn't want it any other way.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:00 PM
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17. That idiot don't know nuthin'!
I have it on good authority that we will soon be ruled by CATS!



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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:04 PM
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18. What they need to be doing is supporting the President of the United States
This nation is at war.

We have troops in the field.

To go against the commander in chief in a time of war is downright treasonous.
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:12 PM
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20. I worry that America will be controlled by people pretending to
be Christians but who really worship money, power and their own egos.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:27 PM
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24. Did he give his speech naked, trying to wear his
Trojan Patriotic Condom asking for women to step forward so he could show much he loves his country and how patriotic he is??
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:30 PM
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25. All while singing "Can you feel the love tonight"...
And then whispering "Yes" into their ears when they get close enough.

:puke:
:rofl:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:41 PM
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26. Well, yeah, that's obvious.
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 11:51 PM by Withywindle
Because of COURSE the "secular atheist"* population in this country only hates government-sanctioned misogyny, homophobia, and general theocracy when CHRISTIANS do it. As soon as we welcome our Muslim overlords, every form of sexual oppression that fringe-cults of Islam can come up with will be fine with me!

:sarcasm:


*disclaimer: I'm not an atheist, but I am not a monotheist or worshipper of a Middle-Eastern male god. I am very secular in my politics, because I think that's the best way to work for free-worship rights for everyone. I don't want a theocracy of any religion, including my own.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:52 PM
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27. He's a madman. 'Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard...' n/t
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 11:57 PM
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28. How can a country be secular and Islamic?
That's oxymoronic. The very definition of secular is "without religion" so how can a religion be included in that?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:09 AM
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29. I guess technically you could have a secular government with Islamic leaders

Just like today we have a secular government with a lot of radical Christian leaders. But personally I think you are right, he is just throwing out two words that are scary and evil to fundy Christians. Those words as like grade A prime red meat to the base for triggering anger and fear even if they don't make sense in context.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:14 AM
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30. You're right.
I guess you can have religious leaders and remain secular. France is one of those countries.

And you're also right on Gingrich stringing together "scary words" to rally his followers.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:17 AM
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31. Newt is constantly looking for enemies -- that's how rw runs its business ...
Newt couldn't make it with "The Chinese Are Coming!" when he left Congress --

but he continues to dabble -- take him seriously, he's one of the GOP's filthiest

and most successfull propagandists!!

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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:39 AM
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33. He needs a psychiatric evaluation.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:01 AM
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35. Repub Code for n**%ers in burnooses.
Hell, they think there's already one in the Oval Office. In addition to blood chilling greed, with Repubs it's all about fear and hate of the other. Gays, Jews, Blacks, Browns, Hispanics, Muslims, Atheists, Socialists, Democrats, you-fill-in-the-blank. Everyone who doesn't belong to their Country Club or live in their gated community.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:12 AM
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36. scratch islamists and put-in Xtians and you will have the TRUTH
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:27 AM
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37. He really does not believe in America does he? n/t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:32 AM
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38. "...to fight and decisively win multiple wars on multiple fronts..." newt sounds like he just took
Edited on Tue Mar-29-11 01:37 AM by calimary
a page from the PNAC. "...Decisively win..."


What a horse's ass. A horse's ass who jilted one wife while she was still in the hospital struggling against cancer, so he could have his little blonde side cake and eat it too. Although that was in the past and I'm certainly not going to talk about how he jilted his SECOND wife (for whom he threw over his FIRST wife, if I'm not mistaken) in the cancer ward because he wanted to trade HER in on an even newer new model. But if I WERE to talk about how he jilted his second wife for his little blonde side dish while his wife was fighting cancer, I'd certainly have my doubts about whether he could be trusted. After all, he DID jilt his first wife for his girlfriend and then when he married the girlfriend, he wound up jilting her (while she was battling cancer for her very life) for yet ANOTHER girlfriend.

... get my drift? :evilgrin:

newt, there are people like me - TONS of people like me - all over the place out there in VoterLand who will NEVER let YOU or ANYBODY ELSE forget about that. EVER. And you can take that to both the bank AND the ballot box, ASSHOLE. We will follow you with that one to the last day you suck air off our planet, chucko.

Fucker.

So he says he had such a hard-on for America that he just had to turn around and give it to a series of backstage girls instead? Fucking his mistresses while he fucked the country and fucked WITH Bill Clinton. Yeah, SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE, you bloated, pompous shit-head.

newt gingrich. If his own wives couldn't trust him... SHOULD YOU?????????
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:37 AM
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39. HOW can it be "secular atheist" and "Islamist" at the same time????
:wtf: Is he stupid or just pretending to be ... I can't decide. :silly: :shrug:
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 03:14 AM
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40. Contradiction in terms!
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Runework Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 03:19 AM
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41. lol wut newt?
this is the stupidest thing I've seen in a while

incidentally the teaching of evolution is outright banned from public schools in most muslim countries, and more or less strongly discouraged even in Turkey
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 03:22 AM
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42. It doesn't matter if it makes zero sense. He knows just SAYING those words gives the base an orgasm.
It's like talking to a foot fetishist about toenail polish.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 03:30 AM
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43. Could he really be this fucking stupid?
Or does he just think that WE are?
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:02 AM
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44. the real threat is the ATHIEST MUSLIM UNDEAD APOCOLYPSE!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:25 AM
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45. For a supposedly smart dude...he is making stupid remarks and is fear mongering...he is toast
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:49 AM
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48. It sounds like something Glenn Beck would say
Incoherent and full of scary buzzwords
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 12:24 PM
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49. That makes two of them......then theres Oreally, Hannity, Rash, Palin, Bachmann, etc
Oh my God, a nwhole SLEW of them....
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:30 AM
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46. Newt..
... is a craven fear-mongering douchebag sociopath.
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ReggieVeggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:39 AM
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47. a secular atheist country dominated by religous extremists
:crazy:

Unfortunately, there are a shitload of people who will listen to this idiot.
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