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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:12 PM
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The Koch Brothers' Nazi Past
http://unknownjournal.wordpress.com/2010/10/06/%E2%96%B... /

http://makemoneymachine.ws/how-did-the-koch-bros-get-th... /


Koch reported to Hitler that unemployment had been banished entirely from East Prussia,
a feat that gained admiration throughout the Reich.

On September 1, Koch became Reichskommissar of Reichskommissariat Ukraine
with control of the Gestapo and the police.
His domain was extended from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea;
he captured ethnic German, Polish, Belarus and Ukrainians
declaring that "Ukraine children need no schools. What theyll have to learn will be taught them by their German masters"
and "If I meet a Ukrainian worthy of being seated at my table, I must have him shot
Koch worked together with the General Plenipotentiary for Labour Deployment, providing the Reich with forced labor.
Due to his brutal actions, Nazi rule in Ukraine was disturbed by a growing number.
before once more getting away himself",by escaping through this Baltic Sea port on April 23, 1945, on the icebreaker Ostpreuen.
He faced charges of war crimes for the extermination of 400,000 Poles, but was never indicted for his crimes in Ukraine.
he was sentenced to death on March 9, 1959 by the district court in Warsaw for having planned, prepared and organised the mass murder of civilians.
Russians thought he possessed information about art looted by the Nazis during the war.

Brother of Erich Koch,
Karl Otto Koch
(August 2, 1897 April 5, 1945), a Standartenfhrer (Colonel) in the German Schutzstaffel (SS),
was the first commandant of the Nazi concentration camps at Buchenwald.
on August 1, 1937, he was given command of the new concentration camp at Buchenwald.
investigation his improper conduct at Buchenwald, included corruption, fraud, embezzlement, drunkenness, sexual offences and a murder.
Kochs orders to kill prisoners at the camp were revealed, as well as embezzlement of property stolen from prisoners

Ilse Koch
Koch married Ilse Khler with whom he had a son and two daughters. Khler later became known as "The Bitch of Buchenwald
She was accused of taking souvenirs from the skin of murdered inmates with distinctive tattoos.
she built an indoor sports arena, which cost over 250,000 marks, most of which were taken from the inmates.
arrested by the Gestapo for embezzlement of SS funds, and the murder of certain inmates in an attempt to cover up these crimes.

Fred Chase Koch (September 23, 1900 November 17, 1967) chemical engineer and founded the TEXACO oil refinery firm
that later became Koch Industries(Chevron).
Koch and its customers were sued for patent infringement, process for turning crude oil into gasoline.
litigation effectively put Winkler-Koch out of business in the U.S. for several years.
Koch turned his focus to foreign markets, including the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany,Erich Koch
During his time in the Soviet Union, Fred Koch came to despise communism and Josef Stalins regime
"a land of hunger, misery, and terror".

Fred C. Koch married Mary Robinson in Kansas City, Missouri in 1932.
They had four sons, Frederick (b. 1933), Charles (b. 1935), David (b. 1940) and William (b. 1940).
Sons Charles de Ganahl Koch and David H. Koch
David and Cahrles Koch had been a consultant for the McCain/Palin campaign.
Sen Jim Inhofe has been in the U.S. Senate for 14 years.
His major supporters are a whos who in the oil field, Koch industries (oil), Murray energy ( Coal), Valhi chemical,
Devon energy (oil), OGE enrgy, Texaco (Chevron), and many other oil and elec corp.
Sen Inholfe "much of the debate over global warming is predicated on fear, rather than science.
I called the threat of catastrophic global warming the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people,
he has taken ,076,573 from major oil companies since 2000, and voted in Big Oils interests 100% of the time
Oil billionaires David and Charles Koch have jumped on board an effort to suspend Californias global warming law
by making a million-dollar contribution this week.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:17 PM
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1. As much as I loathe...
the Koch brothers, did you bother to fact-check this?

Even a cursory review does not show substantiation for a number of the claims. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:25 PM
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3. +1. n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:29 PM
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4. As the wise LBJ once said
"I don't care if it's true or not. I just want to hear the son-of-a-bitch deny it!"

:evilgrin:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:55 PM
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8. Another +1
Even the Devil is entitled to a defense.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 02:24 PM
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9. So, which parts are unsubstantiated?
What do you think is not true?

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 02:28 PM
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11. Do you understand what the word..
"substantiate" means?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:21 PM
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2. This is the connecting information you left out:
Information connecting Ilse and Koch Industries is hard to find but is a string of fragments, pieces of information that connects the American and German Kochs and this connection gives us a clear image of the sentiment behind the Tea Party and conservative American politics since the 1950s. Where is the connection between the German Kochs and Fred Koch? Besides evidence the American Koch was related to Ilses family, Erich Koch (a high level Nazi official in charge of Prussia) invites Fred Koch to sell his oil in Nazi Germany when he is banned from doing business in the US. After the fall of Nazi Germany, Erich Koch and Fred expand the oil empire to the Soviet Union. Erich Koch had been in charge of Prussia for Hitler so his ties to the Soviet Union ran deep. A few years later the Soviets took Fred Kochs oil and prosecuted Erich for war crimes Fred Koch returned to the US, became anti-communist, and was allowed to do business in the States again.

However, we still do not have the familial connection. They seem to have been friendly but there are a lot of people with that name.

The American Kochs seem desperate to prevent the sensible confiscation the Soviets made of "their" oil.

This is another reason why energy is too important to be left in private hands.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:32 PM
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5. unrec.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:37 PM
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6. Beeeeeecause?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 01:40 PM
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7. Because it's stupid misinformation?
That would be my guess.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 10:13 PM
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13. Not factual.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 02:24 PM
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10. "Koch" is a very common German name.
A name taken from a trade, like Cook in English.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 02:28 PM
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12. All Nazis are bad. But not all bad people are Nazis
History is full of elites trying to retain and enhance their power and wealth, often stopping at nothing to achieve their rapacious goals.

History is also full of rebellions against these elites. Sometimes they succeed, but more often they are undermined and corrupted.

The regular folk are almost always the victim. Sometimes the elites disguise their acquisitive efforts as populist movements and use the rank and file as pawns in their game. Other times there are genuine movements aimed at bettering the lives of the mass of men and women that suffer when the leadership becomes too consolidated and betrays the very people who brought them into power.
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