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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:46 AM Original message |
Tepco just said the 10 million x reading was a mistake. |
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femmedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
1. Was hoping to read something like this. n/t |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:49 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Me too x 10 million! nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. So how high was it in reality? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I posted all the info I have. It just came in. nt |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:57 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. If you know the number was wrong, it means you have data proving it was. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I see what you mean of course. |
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nenagh (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. So glad the reading was wrong, Bonobo and thank you for posting.. |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. I don't think they have a different reading |
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TheEuclideanOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
58. It was wrong, it was really 20 million times |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. Assume for a moment that the readings were off by a factor of 1,000 |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
51. So would I. At 10E7 x the normal safe exposure window is about 2/5 second. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. praise the lord. |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
7. that's one hell of a mistake |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. But the article is not offering a revised figure. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. because first they were telling the truth, then they decided to lie again. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. They've made mistakes before... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "downplaying"? there had just been a 9.0 earthquake & up to 16-meter high tsunami, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
75. Seriously. It takes time to figure out what is going on at all and then it changes rapidly |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Tell that to the people living around the plant... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I certainly wouldn't like to be in their situation. Am talking about us, here. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. People who work in nuclear power probably have a fair idea... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #81 |
117. you do realize that the tsunami deluged the facility, right? two of the deaths |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
45. I'd be glad to get a reply that is both germane and coherent. |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. Yeah it's probably "only" 1 million x. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Is it just pessimism that prompts you to say that? |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Because I am pissed off at Tepco. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Shit. Well I don't blame you. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
110. Iwaki |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
112. I can't imagine how upsetting |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:46 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Thanks. |
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ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:53 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I know. I've refrained |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
48. Maybe it's 100,000,000 or 9,000,000 or who TF knows? |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. You should read some of the Japanese comments about that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. all i see is squares. could you give us a hint? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It says: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. you mean the comments are saying the explanation sounds overly |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. No, just that the apology sounds overly casual. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. i'd think so. certainly i don't see how releasing a scary number then backtracking |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
57. You don't? |
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femmedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. That was my second thought after reading your OP. |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. OK |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. sounds like du. thanks. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
60. roflmao |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
76. +1. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #31 |
94. Ha! |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Wow, that was the least of the comments! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Precisely! |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Not at all, it seems as if most people reacted just as you did. nt |
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JTFrog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. Check your PM's please. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
18. Blame the instruments. It couldn't be that high, so it isn't. That is exactly what happened |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Yeah, the silence on what the real measurement was... |
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Chris_Texas (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Unlike 3 mile island these guys are NOT saying "that doesn't seem right" before reacting |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Furthermore, their willingness to release the 10 million times figure originally |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Actually, they are saying "The number is not credible, we are very sorry." |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. How can they be so sure? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I'm certain it will come out. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. one hopes that the writer did not completely invent the rest. |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
63. It looks like the writer did indeed invent the rest. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 01:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
111. as it turns out you were wrong. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:25 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Yes and I will still like to know why anything that is close to positive news |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:29 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. A desire for positive news means you're a nuclear shill. Trying to keep the facts |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
59. I think that's exactly what's going on here. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
33. i'm sick of this crap. Get a team of international experts in there and give us facts |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. "Japan should not be allowed" |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:19 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. No country should be allowed to do something on its own... |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Agreed but I did not like the wording "Should not be allowed" |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. i know...i'm just frustrated. -nt |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Well I fucking understand THAT all right! |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:43 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. thanks for understanding ;) |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
66. They're not children. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
79. How about an international group then? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. These problems are best solved by scientists. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 02:08 PM Response to Reply #87 |
108. What do you mean "It's not about the right to know"? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
44. What is the number then? WTF? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. The question on everyone's lips indeed. nt |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:31 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. In the meantime, gov't asks water treatment plants nationwide not to take in rainwater |
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backwoodsbob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
49. be safe |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
52. Frighteningly, most Japanese comments I read on the link that Art posted |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 08:46 AM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Screw Chernobyl being the upper limit reference point |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #55 |
85. The funny thing is you all know nothing. Because THEY know next to nothing. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
101. Bonobo, The IAEA now has teams there |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I am glad to see that, thank you. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. You're welcome |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
61. More info: "He said officials were taking another sample to get accurate levels, but did not know |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I believe someone has to go in to take the test, unless they |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:28 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Oh hell no, but Ann Coulter thinks radiation is harmless, maybe we could volunteer her? Or |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. I agree, that stupid robot has to be good for something. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. LOL! |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. How do they know it's inaccurate if they can't say exactly what went wrong.. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Or, did they take a smple of the water back to the lab, or just an on-site reading? |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
95. Because at 10 - 20sv they would be dead right now. Thats a massive lethal |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
62. K&R....nt |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
65. Kick |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
67. Obviously, more readings need to be taken all over the place. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Very true, but there's something fishy about this. |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Because they are not all dead. At the original obviously wrong dose |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #84 |
109. No, they reported it as 1sv in the basement |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
82. They are here is the link. NOTE this in in MICROsv. |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
70. It's been a couple of hours now, and no new reading? |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
88. There are HUNDREDs of readings from all over japan. I bet most of the population is asleep |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. " I am waiting for the first moron to die from a KI overdose", back on ignore (edited) |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. If they kill fluffy the cat with KI that would be sad.. |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. DU obviously is primarily a politically themed website |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Yup. |
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Thunderstruck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
80. Have the workers returned to the plant? What's the new reading? |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Only 100,000 times higher than normal |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Therein lies their hubris getting in the way of public safety. |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. They should stop the X normal notation. Its useless and drama provoking. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. 100X agreement. |
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Mariana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. I don't think there is a new reading. |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:34 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. And because they are not dead from a 10 - 20sv dose |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
83. So...are you going to release a number that is credible? |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
97. Mmmm hmm. And they have such a stellar track record on accuracy. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
99. Via Twitter unconfirmed: Tepco revised from 10 million iodine to 100,000 nt |
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BrookBrew (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:44 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. 10million what? Again. with no reading |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
102. Tired of Tepcos BS |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-27-11 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
103. Oh yes, it was a mistake. |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-28-11 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
116. Tell that to those poor workers who were running like their |
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