What are the weather conditions in hell? I just watched Lou Dobbs on with O'Reilly.

[Syrinx]

And they were attacking Obama from the left?

They both claimed that they want to eliminate corporate tax loopholes, and Dobbs seemed to suggest that raising income taxes on wealthy individuals would be a good thing to do, even bringing up the fact that top marginal tax-rate was once 91%. (O'Reilly didn't seem to agree with that part.)

They were only doing this because of the report that GE, who they perceive as a liberal corporation (as if there is such a beast in the wild), paid no income tax in the past year.

But I think Rachel, Ed, and Lawrence (EDIT: and Barack) should embrace Bill and Lou's ideas, and give them all the honor of coming up with the ideas.

After all, there's no limit on what you can achieve, if you don't mind who gets the credit.

[Scuba]

1. O'Reilly is only insane most of the time. I wouldn't watch Dobbs...

...if you paid me.


O'Reilly lies, smears, denigrates, abuses and then every once in a while challenges something the rights says that is apparently even too outrageous for Billo.

[Ex Lurker]

2. They're both right wing populists

so they agree with progressive at least part of the time.

[tom_paine]

4. Nope, that's not it at all.

From a Nazi electioneering pamphlet in 1932, using the unique and new (at that time) public relations technique of inoculation (Google it as it applies to mass psychology, if you don't know what it is).

Here they print the truth about themselves, as stated by a disgruntled Nazi to the "Liberal Media", as the ex-Nazi came out like a Mafia hit man, so as to then "debunk" it and him with the white light of Nazi "truth". Luckily for us, history clearly registered (after 12 years of war and 50,000,000 dead) who was doing the lying.

Well, it used to...before Glenn Beck and the New and Improved Nazis rewrote it to favor themseles and their Nazi predecessors again.

Now, lets hear it from the mouth of the ex-Nazi himself, who so very well describes not only the German RW circa 1933 but the American Rw circa 2011.

“We National Socialists are taking over your workers’ organizations. We are taking over your unions. The businessmen and big capitalists are giving us permission to adjust our agitation to the working class. If we speak of nationalizing land, we do not mean it. If we speak against capital, we need it as a propaganda tool to attract people to us. The main thing is that we have the people, that we pull them away from Marxism.”

That's your answer. Yes, it is as simple as that and yes, the modern American RW is VERY much like the RW Nazis, but with much better PR, mass psychology, and technological delivery systems that can saturate a weak-ninded society likeours with lies in an instant.

Don't believe me? Read for yourself how the Liberal Media lied about the honorable Right Wing Nazis ("The true Socialism is on the Right") and read the quote within it's full context by reading the whole pamphlet..if you dare.

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/journailleluegt.htm

And always remember, what seems ham-fisted and transparent to you today was, like Fox News back then, the absolute cutting-edge forefront of mass psychological and behavioral manipulation through perception management and skillful marketing.

[Syrinx]

3. that's pretty funny

When I edited to add "and Barack," I got at least 2 "unrecs." :rofl: