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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 03:28 AM
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"Who are the Libyan Rebels"? Some clues.
Edited on Thu Mar-24-11 03:46 AM by Hannah Bell
And now, as they try to defeat Moammar Gadhafi's armed forces and militias, they will have to rely on allied airstrikes and young men with guns, because the rebel army consists of only perhaps 1,000 trained men.

Those admissions came from Ali Tarhouni, who was appointed to the Cabinet of the rebels' shadow government Wednesday as finance minister. Tarhouni, who teaches economics and finance at the University of Washington, returned to Libya a month ago after more than 35 years in exile to advise the opposition on economic matters.

The rebels' national council appointed another U. S. educated academic, Mahmoud Jibril, to head the interim administration.

As the top financial official for the rebels, Tarhouni will also oversee oil affairs...

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2014584602_libya24.html


Ali Tarhouni
Senior Lecturer in Business Economics

PhD, Michigan State University, 1983
MA, Michigan State University, 1978
BA, Libyan University, 1973

Specialties
Managerial economics, macroeconomic analysis, financial institutions and markets, international finance and investments.

Positions Held
Joined the University of Washington in 1985.
Assistant professor at Washington State University (1984-85)

Current Research
Cost factors in trauma centers, productivity measurement in the unified German economy, reaction of bank stocks to Latin American debt announcements.

Honors and Awards
MBA Core Professor of the Quarter for Autumn (2007, 2008)
E-Business Core Professor of the Quarter for Autumn (2003)
MBA Core Professor of the Quarter for Autumn (1990, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2003)
PACCAR Award for Teaching Excellence (2002)
Daniel R. Siegel Service Award (2000, 2001)
Professor of the Year (1998)
Charles Summer Memorial Teaching Award (1997, 1998, 2002)
ADMIN 510 Outstanding Instructor (1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995)
Tyee Instructor of the Year (1987)

Academic Service
Advisory Board of the Center of Instructional Development and Research (CIDR) and the Business and Economics Development Program (BEDP).
Helped develop the School's Instructional Resources Office (1994) and the Business and Economic Development Program (1992).

Selected Publications
"Valuation of Internet Companies; Irrational Bubble or Change but Rational Expectations?", with Ed Rice, The E-Business Review, September 2003.

"What’s New on the Internet," with Ed Rice, The E-Business Review, September 2002.

Selected Consulting Experience
Food and Agriculture Organization, consultant. Sit on a number of advisory boards of Technology and Internet companies.

http://www.foster.washington.edu/centers/facultyresearch/facultyprofiles/Lists/Faculty%20Contact%20Info/DispProfile.aspx?ID=113


Mahmoud Jibril,

Born in Libya n 1952, obtained a BSc in Economics and Political Science from Cairo University in 1975. Holds a masters’ degree in Political Science from the University of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in 1980. He also obtained a Doctorate in Strategic planning and decision-making from the same university in 1984 where he worked as a professor in the same subject field for several years. So far he has published 10 books in Strategic planning and decision making. He led the team who drafted and formed the Unified Arab Training manual. He was also responsible for organising and administering the first two Training conferences in the Arab world in the years 1987 and 1988. He later took over the management and administration of many of the leaders’ training programs for senior management in Arab countries including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Libya, UAE, Kuwait, Jordan, Bahrain, Morocco, Tunisia, Turkey and Britain.

Unsurprisingly, they don’t make a big deal out of his time as a fairly important technocrat in the reform wing of Gaddafi’s government. But I’m sure you were wondering what it was the US State department has to say about him. And so, to the wikileaks!

On March 7, 2008:

15.(C) In addition, xxxxxxxxxxxx who works with Libya’s economic and financial sectors told EconOff March 11 that Dr. Mahmoud Jibril, head of the National Planning Commission, ally of Saif al-Islam and a leading advocate for economic reform, would play a key role on three of the five implementing committees – budget, economy and wealth distribution. Jibril, who as recently as early February was so frustrated by his inability to effect reform that he had submitted letters of resignation on three occasions, is reportedly now convinced that Qadhafi’s commitment to dramatic change is sincere enough that he has agreed to stay on – for now...

On May 11, 2009, describing a meeting with “Mahmoud Jibril, Chair of the National Economic Development Board (NEDB), an organization that Jibril likened to a “think tank” of multi-disciplinary experts.”:

The NEDB’s role in these projects is to “pave the way” for private sector development, and to create a strategic partnership between private companies and the government. There is a still a “gap of distrust” dividing the two. As to whether Libya has a Master Plan that includes all the 11,000 projects, Jibril admitted that in the past two years, Libya had started executing projects without such a plan. However, the NEDB has been working with experts from Ernst and Young, the Oxford Group, and lately with five consultants from UNDP to advise the prime minister on the best sequencing and pacing of the projects in order to decrease poverty and unemployment.

With a PhD in strategic planning from the University of Pittsburgh, Jibril is a serious interlocutor who “gets” the U.S. perspective. He is also not shy about sharing his views of U.S. foreign policy, for example, opining that the U.S. spoiled a golden opportunity to capitalize on its “soft power” (McDonald’s, etc.) after the fall of the Soviet Union...

http://zunguzungu.wordpress.com/2011/03/23/meet-mahmoud-jibril/
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 05:19 AM
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1. kicking my own post.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-11 07:27 AM
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2. k&r
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-11 08:54 PM
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3. Too late to recommend this but thanks for this important information n/t
Edited on Fri Mar-25-11 08:55 PM by Catherina
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:18 PM
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4. Kick
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:24 PM
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5. Thanks for the background HB...
(strains of "It's a small world after all" running through my brain)

shoot me now
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:24 PM
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6. Kick
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:53 PM
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7. Important information here. Any comments? Pro-War Democrats? Pseudo Anarchists? n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 03:54 PM by Catherina
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 03:56 PM
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8. I thought your complaint was that they were Islamic Fundementalists?
:shrug:
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:04 PM
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9. Yes, some are definitely Islamists but this important OP indicates the US
is positioning its "own" people, especially those who are friendly to US backed "entrepreneurship" (cough) in important and strategic positions in Libya's rebel force. Don't you find that a tad suspicious too?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:31 PM
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15. I don't find it strange that
Ali Tarhouni went back to his home country, a country where Gaddafi placed a death threat on him- and which Gaddafi overtook in a coup.

To try and make his return into some kind of US conspiracy is really kind of pathetic.

I posted an OP about him a day or so ago.

As for Jabril, I'm not sure I know enough about him to really say. He obviously was invested in Libya- for a long time before this uprising.

I don't believe that Tarhouni ever gave up on his dream of returning to Libya- Do you really mean to say that you think he is simply operating as a US imperialist - that this was all set up as some kind of a CIA plot?

Sorry, I don't buy that. Time will tell.


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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:48 PM
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17. To not even acknowledge that the US may be positioning it's own people in place
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 04:49 PM by riderinthestorm
for a post-Gaddafi regime is naive imho. They aren't dropping billions of dollars of military hardware on Libya for nothing I guarantee you that.

I have no idea if this is a CIA plot but I'm damn sure the US is going to exploit this maximally. To think otherwise is silly imho.

Edit for typos (damn laptop keyboard is more sensitive than my desktop....)
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 05:02 PM
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19. there is a difference between
insinuating that the US is stacking the "Rebel Libyan Leadership" with hand picked 'operatives'- and believing that the US is completely altruistic imo.

I personally find it prett petty= and unfair- for people to assign sinister motives to a person who has much more invested in the Libyan struggle for independence than any of us here. Mr. Tarhouni seems to be a pretty decent person, who has longed to return home for many years.

Is this what we've sunk to? Judging others as 'bad-guys' because of our need to find something to justify our position? It's not difficult to say that Gaddafi really doesn't have the best interests of the average Libyan as first and formost in his mind. He's done some things that illustrate he is more than just empty words. But what has Tarhouni done that is so dispicable, other than living in exile in the US and teaching economics??

:shrug:
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:04 PM
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10. Really? You did? Speaks volumes. Try again please. n/t
Edited on Sun Mar-27-11 04:07 PM by Catherina
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:50 PM
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18. so does this-
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:07 PM
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11. Sounds like some Hamid Karzais in waiting
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:21 PM
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12. Too late to recommend officially ergo K&R
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50000feet Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:22 PM
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13. You mean this Ali Tarhouni?
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:35 PM
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16. and this one-
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-27-11 04:27 PM
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14. Kick...interesting.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 03:51 PM
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20. I'm amazed people can't see through this.
You'd think after all these years....
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:41 PM
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21. k
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 11:51 PM
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22. The "George Washington of Libya" - like Chalabi?
Deja vu all over again
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:03 PM
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23. Funny how it's not as "simple" as we're told
Thanks
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:08 PM
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24. It's like you can't make up your minds if they're radical Islamic extremists or a western merc army
just keep spinning it around and hope nobody notices.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:09 PM
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25. Indeed, Sir: Whichever Seems Likely With a Particular Audience
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 02:13 PM
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26. I could swear I've seen this movie before - K
Edited on Wed Mar-30-11 02:14 PM by Aerows
Can't recommend, it's too late, but this is worthy of kicking up the page.
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