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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:10 PM
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Lawrence Cannon, Minister in Harper's government said ground troops might be needed in Libya.
Just on the CBC News.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:12 PM
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1. I wish these people would not say crap like that.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:16 PM
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2. So is he volunteering his
or ours? :scared:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:19 PM
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3. Is he volunteering to lead a strike force into Bengazi?
If not then he should STFU. This is what you get when you hire amateurs to fill Cabinet positions.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:25 PM
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5. Agree. The people of the Great Britian wouldn't stand for it. nt
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 10:26 PM by gateley
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Maine_Nurse Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:21 PM
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4. Why? Let a CBG take out the air force in a day or so,...
and maybe some key MoMo controlled depots, then call it a day.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 10:34 PM
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6. I wonder if he isn't leaking the info to garner more international press. So far very little
has been said in the international MSM about Canada's involvement. And the Harper government faces both scandals this week and, a possible election. International press attention makes canadians swoon. I don't really know but it could be.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:31 AM
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8. that would be, "international press attention makes Canadians grimace .....
Of those I've talked with about it, most are less than thrilled with more military involvement in the ME or anywhere else. If the International Community had come together right at the start and let Gaddahfi know he'd be sanctioned / shunned / punished .. for breaking humanitarian law, it may not have gotten this far. Now that it has escalated to the current horror, I guess all that's left going in .... but, please ......... nobody 'swoons' over it.

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 11:05 PM
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7. What an idiot. Was he drunk?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:39 AM
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10. Typical Harper government TM idiocy
Edited on Sat Mar-19-11 12:41 AM by arikara
He's a total embarrassment to us. My mister called Harper a white faced wig headed moron motherfucker today, at least I got a bit of a laugh out of that.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 01:11 AM
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12. lol! Thanks for the explanation.
:hi:

When do you think there'll be a chance Harper can be voted out?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 02:46 PM
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15. They're talking spring election
but so far we haven't gotten rid of him. People have never embraced the alternative, nor do we want a majority Harper Gov so have managed to at least keep the idiot in minority status.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 04:22 PM
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16. Why haven't people "embraced the alternative"?
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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:58 PM
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17. Thats a good question
There are 3 major national parties, the Harper conservatives on the right which are a neo-con corporatist party equivalent to your republican party. And supposedly on the left are the liberals who are somewhat equivalent to your dems, a neo-liberal corporatist party; and then a bit farther to the left is the NDP.

The liberals retained power for much of Canada's history, until recently when Finance Minister Paul Martin (aka Mr Dithers) held a coup and deposed long time PM Jean Chretien, also a right leaning corporatist who referred to Canadian citizens as "consumers". The martin coup brought the party even further to the right but the kerfuffle, various scandals and Martin himself didn't resonate with the public. The Harper cons took advantage of it with constant attack ads which they continue to this day. Anyhow, Mr Dithers got the boot shortly after and in a surprise move, Stéphane Dion was chosen to lead the party. He may have been good but never had a chance. The knives came out for him immediately, both from outside the party (Harper) and inside the party (Michael Ignatieff supporters). He was quickly deposed and after another leadership convention, Michael Ignatieff won the leadership of the Liberal party. Ignatieff is also failing to win hearts and minds. He is a university professor who spent years teaching in the US and came back to Canada to run for PM. People don't quite trust him and he has definitely not been able to capture many hearts and minds. So thats the liberals in a nutshell.

As for the NDP, they serve to split the vote on the left. Jack Layton the leader is quite uneven although I prefer him to the rest. He's talked a good talk but he's made some deals with the devil too. There are enough corporatists around that his party will never lead although they have held a lot of power in the minority gov't. Once the NDP and the libs actually made a coalition agreement and were set to take power from harper but he pulled a parliamentary maneuver and outsmarted them.

The past few elections people have voted strategically to ensure that the harper conservatives don't wind up with a majority. People who never would vote NDP or liberal hold their nose and vote for the one who has the best chance of winning over the conservative candidate. It has worked. Harper and much of his party is hard line religious nut corporatists. But unfortunately liberals are much the same minus the religious nut thing. And I think people just can't get a read on Ignatieff. There was another man who ran for leadership when Dion was elected, Gerard Kennedy who very nearly won. I know someone who has worked with him, He came from running the biggest food bank in the country and decided that the only way to change the system is from the inside. I hope that when Iggy is inevitably shown the door that Gerard takes it, he will change Canadian politics.

Thats my take on Canadian politics, of course there is a lot more to it than that and of course a million other opinions.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:38 AM
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9. How else would the west secure the oil fields?
Jet fighters and "allies" alone can't do it, as we found out in Afghanistan.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 01:01 AM
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11. And what did people who actually know what they're talking about say?
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 04:38 AM
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13. I wonder how that would be received here.
The NFZ isn't going to do too much in terms of militarily changing the situation. I predict that there will be calls from the "left" for invasion of Libya. I hope I am wrong!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 05:46 AM
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14. Anything to distract from the mess that is their neo-liberal economies
Never mind the people will still be in the streets - tax the rich or meet the poor and middle class in the streets.

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