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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:40 PM
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Can you imagine having to do this everytime 1 of your 4 active children break a CFL bulb........
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 07:50 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
they run, they jump. they even jump rope, they have pillow fights, they bouce balls, they dance and sometimes they wrestle. Lamps get knocked over and bulbs break, sometimes several at once depending on the lamp. Hey it's winter and they are stuck indoors sometimes for a few months a year.

I don't think i can do this every time one breaks because we also have several pets...a dog 2 cats, an african grey parrot, and 2 cockiteals. I think I am going out and buy up every old school light bulb I can put my hands on.

Okay here is what we all must do when one breaks: it will drive me crazy

Before Cleanup
•Have people and pets leave the room, and avoid the breakage area on the way out.
•Open a window or door to the outdoors and leave the room for 5-10 minutes.
•Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning (H&AC) system, if you have one.
•Collect materials you will need to clean up the broken bulb:
◦Stiff paper or cardboard
◦Sticky tape (e.g., duct tape)
◦Damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes (for hard surfaces)
◦Glass jar with a metal lid (such as a canning jar) or a sealable plastic bag(s)

Cleanup Steps for Hard Surfaces

•Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place debris and paper/cardboard in a glass jar with a metal lid. If a glass jar is not available, use a sealable plastic bag. (NOTE: Since a plastic bag will not prevent the mercury vapor from escaping, remove the plastic bag(s) from the home after cleanup.)
•Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder. Place the used tape in the glass jar or plastic bag.
•Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the towels in the glass jar or plastic bag.
•Vacuuming of hard surfaces during cleanup is not recommended unless broken glass remains after all other cleanup steps have been taken. If vacuuming is needed to ensure removal of all broken glass, keep the following tips in mind:
◦Keep a window or door to the outdoors open;
◦Vacuum the area where the bulb was broken using the vacuum hose, if available; and
◦Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister) and seal the bag/vacuum debris, and any materials used to clean the vacuum, in a plastic bag.
•Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials, including vacuum cleaner bags, outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of properly.
◦Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your area. Some states and communities require fluorescent bulbs (broken or unbroken) be taken to a local recycling center.
•Wash your hands with soap and water after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing bulb debris and cleanup materials.
•Continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the H&AC system shut off, as practical, for several hours.

Cleanup Steps for Carpeting or Rugs

•Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place debris and paper/cardboard in a glass jar with a metal lid. If a glass jar is not available, use a sealable plastic bag. (NOTE: Since a plastic bag will not prevent the mercury vapor from escaping, remove the plastic bag(s) from the home after cleanup.)
•Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and powder. Place the used tape in the glass jar or plastic bag.
•Vacuuming of carpeting or rugs during cleanup is not recommended unless broken glass remains after all other cleanup steps have been taken. If vacuuming is needed to ensure removal of all broken glass, keep the following tips in mind:
◦Keep a window or door to the outdoors open;
◦Vacuum the area where the bulb was broken using the vacuum hose, if available, and
◦Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister) and seal the bag/vacuum debris, and any materials used to clean the vacuum, in a plastic bag.
•Promptly place all bulb debris and cleanup materials, including vacuum cleaner bags, outdoors in a trash container or protected area until materials can be disposed of properly.
◦Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your area. Some states and communities require fluorescent bulbs (broken or unbroken) be taken to a local recycling center.
•Wash your hands with soap and water after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing bulb debris and cleanup materials.
•Continue to air out the room where the bulb was broken and leave the H&AC system shut off, as practical, for several hours.

Then

•The next several times you vacuum the rug or carpet, shut off the H&AC system if you have one, close the doors to other rooms, and open a window or door to the outside before vacuuming. Change the vacuum bag after each use in this area.
•After vacuuming is completed, keep the H&AC system shut off and the window or door to the outside open, as practical, for several hours.


Actions You Can Take to Prevent Broken Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs

Fluorescent bulbs are made of glass and can break if dropped or roughly handled. To avoid breaking a bulb, follow these general practices:

•Always switch off and allow a working CFL bulb to cool before handling.
•Always handle CFL bulbs carefully to avoid breakage.
◦If possible, screw/unscrew the CFL by holding the plastic or ceramic base, not the glass tubing.
◦Gently screw in the CFL until snug. Do not over-tighten.
◦Never forcefully twist the glass tubing.
•Consider not using CFLs in lamps that can be easily knocked over, in unprotected light fixtures, or in lamps that are incompatible with the spiral or folded shape of many CFLs.
•Do not use CFL bulbs in locations where they can easily be broken, such as play spaces.
•Use CFL bulbs that have a glass or plastic cover over the spiral or folded glass tube, if available. These types of bulbs look more like incandescent bulbs and may be more durable if dropped.
•Consider using a drop cloth (e.g., plastic sheet or beach towel) when changing a fluorescent light bulb in case a breakage should occur. The drop cloth will help prevent mercury contamination of nearby surfaces and can be bundled with the bulb debris for disposal.


Recycling and Disposal After a CFL Burns Out: http://www.epa.gov/cfl/cflrecycling.html



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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:44 PM
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1. Funniest thing I've read all day.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:45 PM
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2. I'm breaking a mercury thermometer now and playing with the pretty silver bits.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:12 PM
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8. All the talk about Poison Control being defunded makes me think of the time, six years ago, when I
broke a mercury thermometer in the bathroom. PC was a HUGE help.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:14 PM
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9. Hey, wanna swing by my apartment and split a bowl of paint chips?
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:37 AM
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21. We did that in my high school chemistry class.
The chemistry teachers tell me that nowadays, if one should break on accident, they have to call in the equivalent of a haz mat crew.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:47 PM
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3. Aaaa, I'm just gonna tell them it's candy and look the other way.
Yes, I'm available for babysitting on weekends, and you're welcome!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:29 AM
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19. thanks...I need can use a weekend to relaxe.....you'll find the duct tape in the hall closet.....
we use it for times when "time out" just don't work....just tape their asses to the wall or floor.


I'll PM you soon ;)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 10:38 AM
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26. We're
just horrible.
















We've left evidence right out in the open.


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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:46 PM
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27. nah...does she look horrorible unhappy....
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 07:55 PM
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4. I hope you don't have any tube fluorescent bulbs
in the house if you're that concerned. Lots of residences have old-fashioned tube fluorescent fixtures. Perhaps you noticed that all those cleanup recommendations apply to them, too.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:01 PM
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5. no none in the home only in the workplace...thank the god and godesses
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 08:02 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
and yes I knew it applied to them as well.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:08 PM
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6. So how about installing them where your over-active kids can't break them?
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 08:15 PM by RoccoR5955
You know that the glass and phosphor coating in incandescent light bulbs is also hazardous to kids' health. The aluminum silicate that coats the inside of the bulbs could lead to Alzheimer's. The argon gas is inert, but not healthy to breathe either. Shouldn't they be considered hazardous waste too?
And candles are a BIG fire hazard.
Forget it, if I had any kids, I'd make them stay in the dark, until they learn the hazards of these things.
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:10 PM
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7. I just pick them up and toss them into the trash...
:shrug:
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Chris_Texas Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:22 PM
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11. But what do you do with broken bulbs?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:24 PM
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12. omg thier is a 4 page in depth instructions manual on disposal of just plain old burnt out bulbs...
Edited on Fri Mar-18-11 08:25 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
Why is Recycling CFLs Important?

•Recycling prevents the release of mercury into the environment. CFLs and other fluorescent bulbs often break when thrown into a dumpster, trash can or compactor, or when they end up in a landfill or incinerator. Learn more about CFLs and mercury.
•Other materials in the bulbs get reused. Recycling CFLs and other fluorescent bulbs allows the reuse of the glass, metals and other materials that make up fluorescent lights. Virtually all components of a fluorescent bulb can be recycled.
•Your area may require recycling. Some states and local jurisdictions have more stringent regulations than U.S. EPA does, and may require that you recycle CFLs and other mercury-containing light bulbs. California, Maine, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Vermont and Massachusetts , for example, all prohibit mercury-containing lamps from being discarded into landfills. Visit Earth911.com to contact your local waste collection agency, which can tell you if such requirement exists in your state or locality.

How and Where Can I Recycle CFLs?
Waste collection agencies | Local retailers | Mail-back services

1.Contact your local waste collection agency by visiting Earth911.com . Many counties and cities have household hazardous waste drop-off locations and/or curbside and other special collection programs. To find locations where you can drop off bulbs, and when and where a collection may be held in your area, contact your local waste collection agency directly by visiting Earth911.com . Note that waste collection agencies:
◦provide services that are usually free, though some may charge a small fee.
◦sometimes collect household hazardous wastes only once or twice a year, so residents will have to hold on to their light bulbs until the collection takes place. Other collection agencies provide collection services throughout the year.
◦may also collect paints, pesticides, cleaning supplies or batteries.
◦usually accept waste only from residents, although some collection programs include small businesses as well.

2.Visit your local retailers. Many hardware supply stores and other retailers offer in-store recycling. Visit Earth911.com to find stores in your area or check the list below. Make sure you check directly with the store before you go; not all stores in regional or nationwide chains may be equipped to recycle. EPA is working with retailers to expand recycling and disposal options.

◦Ace/True Value Hardware store locator and a list of New Hampshire Ace and TrueValue stores that recycle
◦Aubuchon Hardware store locations
◦Bartell Drugs
◦Home Depot’s CFL recycling program
◦IKEA store locations
◦Lowe's store locator
◦Menards store locator
◦Orchard Supply store locator
◦Retail and other locations in certain counties and states:
◦Dane County, Wisconsin
◦Massachusetts
◦Minnesota (PDF)
◦San Francisco, California
◦San Mateo County, California
◦Vermont

3.Find out about mail-back services. Some bulb manufacturers and other organizations sell pre-labeled recycling kits that allow you to mail used bulbs to recycling centers. The cost of each kit includes shipping charges to the recycling center. You fill up a kit with old bulbs, seal it, and bring it to the post office or leave for your postal carrier. Websites that provide more information about mail-back services
.
◦BakPak Mail-Back Recycling (NLR, Inc.)
◦EcoLights
◦EverLights, Inc.
◦Heritage Lifecycle Mailback Services
◦EasyPak from Lamprecycling.com (AirCycle)
◦Osram Sylvania
◦Think Green From Home (Waste Management Inc.)
◦RecyclePak from Veolia Environmental Services
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:30 PM
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13. I haven't had any burn out yet. The cat knocked over my lamp the other day though.
I should murder my cat...
Naw not big enough, wouldn't get enough meat off of it...
Well that and it's cuddly... daww cute kitty...
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:05 PM
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15. In my town...
...there's a box at the transfer station. We drop them off there.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:43 AM
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23. They just climb right back ou -- Oh! You meant the bulbs!
:evilgrin:
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:17 PM
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10. Or, like most, just throw them in the garbage.
That's the thing: no one is paying attention to those warnings. Not even people who should and do know better. It's too onerous.
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Lilyhoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 08:39 PM
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14. Woman sealed off room for months. Clean up to cost $2,000.00
http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/cfl.asp

The above is a link to a Snopes article. I read it when it was originally posted here at DU years ago.

The woman broke a bulb, was not sure how to clean up and called the EPA. The room was sealed off due to the cost of cleaning it up was to be $2,000.00.

I could not cut and paste any of the article here for some reason.

The room was eventually cleaned, including replacing a portion of carpet.



Lilyhoney
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-11 09:13 PM
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16. If you read the entire article you'll see that the woman found out that
professional cleanup was not necessary and she did not have to pay $2000. This was a false report that was spread around by the usual suspects: Fox News and World Net Daily.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:22 AM
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17. they arethe typethat will be tossing the CFL bulbs in the landfill just out of hate for anything....
they precieve as a liberal policy ....laughing as they do it, too stupid to realize that they are poisoning their own children'soil and waterwater too.
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Boxerfan Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:23 AM
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18. I did an unrec but would like to share this about our curly little friends
They grow mean green....


But I hate these OMG scary bs threads-Y'all do know where they come from...
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:32 AM
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20. Sounds like cross-country skis for the family might be cheaper than staying indoors.
Just saying...
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:40 AM
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22. If we need to turn off the ac to prevent spreading of ? through house, shouldn't the cleaner wear a
mask of some sort over his/her face to prevent inhaling whatever it is that you want to prevent spreading via ac/heater?

I'm thinking I'll go back to the old bulbs too.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 12:44 AM
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24. Yes... it's better to spend $35 more in electricity per incandescent
bulb than sweep up a broken cfl and throw it away like 99.999999% of the population does.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-11 01:17 AM
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25. My children never broke a lightbulb in their lives.
They're grown now. But for what it's worth, there's no way I'm going to concern myself with going through all that crap on the off chance one of our CFL bulbs ever breaks. I'll just sweep up the mess with the usual care one pays with sharp bits of broken glass and get on with life.
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