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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:15 PM
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Libyan Revolution Day 27 (return of the revolutionaries!)
Links to sites with updates: AJE Live Blog March 16 (today) AJE Twitter Dashboard feb17.info Libya Alhurra (live video webcast from Benghazi) libyafeb17.com

Twitter links: Ayman Mohyeldin, with AJE Ben Wedeman, with CNN tripolitanian, a Libyan from Tripoli Brian Conley, reporter in Libya FreeLibyanYouth, Libyan advocate LibyaFeb17.com twitter account ChangeInLibya, Libyan advocate

Useful links: feb17voices Current time in Libya Prayer times in Libya

Day 26 part 2 here.



Libyan website reports rebels sink Gaddafi ships
RABAT, March 15 (Reuters) - An opposition Libyan online newspaper on Tuesday said a rebel MiG 23 warplane and a helicopter sank two pro-Gaddafi warships off the eastern coast near the front line of land battles at Adjabiyah.

It was not clear where the two aircraft took off from. The airbase at Benghazi switched to rebel control when the opposition took charge of the city and several air force officers have been among military men who joined the opposition.


Tony Birtley updates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8HWgzZjot4

@ShababLibya
LibyanYouthMovement
Al Manara media reports a fighter jet has crashed into Bab Azizia (gaddafi's compound in Tripoli) we can not confirm this yet #libya #Feb17
4 hours ago

@ShababLibya
LibyanYouthMovement
Jet fighter pilot who crashed into Bab Azizia, Gaddafi's secure compound in Tripoli is confirmed, huge fire erupting #Libya #Feb17
4 hours ago

@ShababLibya
LibyanYouthMovement
The Pilot who flew his jet into Bab Azizia was the martyr Muhammad Mokhtar Osman from Benghazi #Libya #Feb17 #gaddaficrimes
43 minutes ago



While Gaddafi spoke, protestors in Benghazi threw shoes



"One month ago (Western countries) were sooo nice, so nice like pussycats," Saif says in a contemptuous sing-song tone."Now they want to be really aggressive like tigers. (But) soon they will come back, and cut oil deals, contracts. We know this game." - Saif Gaddafi


(Yeah, Saif, as if you weren't "cutting oil deals, contracts" with western states.)

March 10 7:28pm Saif al Islam Gaddafi says "the time has come for full-scale military action" against Libyan rebels. He goes on to say that Libyan forces loyal to his family "will never surrender, even if western powers intervene".


And so it began.

France recognises Libya opposition: France has now officially recognised the National Council, the alternative government set up by the Libyan opposition in Benghazi, and has severed ties with Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

Reports from France, meanwhile, indicate that Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, is also considering lobbying the EU to back air strikes against specific targets in Libya.

Al Jazeera's Tim Friend reports from Paris.




Click here for updated and interactive map

Military Installations



Oil Map



Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries

MAP of Protests across the Middle East

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:16 PM
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1. Current Time in Libya is 1:16am Wednesday, March 16.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:19 PM
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2. What's your gut feeling on the accuracy of the kamikaze story?
and the sinking of the pro-Gaddafi ships?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:20 PM
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3. It's from a reliable poster, I haven't seen him post something that big without it being true.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:22 PM
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5. Well then...GOOD! I really hope it's accurate.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:21 PM
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4. LibyanYouthMovement choice tweets:
http://twitter.com/#!/ShababLibya

I cannot update many now but I will throw a few out there I have to afk for a few.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:23 PM
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6. Al Manara media reports the fighter pilot who flew his aircraft into Bab Azizia took off at Tripoli
@ShababLibya
LibyanYouthMovement
Al Manara media reports the fighter pilot who flew his aircraft into Bab Azizia took off from Matiga base in Tripoli #Libya #Feb17
4 minutes ago
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:23 PM
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7. Injuries from fighter crash
01:14 Almanara Media reports that two people of importance have been badly injured as a result of the fighter jet crash into Baab Al Aziziyah earlier and have been taken to Tripolis Burns and Reconstruction hospital. There is currently a heavy presence of security around the building and unconfirmed reports point to the injured being from Gaddafis sons.
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CJvR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:16 PM
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Good...
...lets hope it is Mad Dog himself with 98% third degree burns.
That would almost be justice...
Still one of Mad Dog's pups would also be nice.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:25 PM
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8. Maybe this will make Gaddafi get out

Tripolis Burns and Body Reconstruction hospital under heavy security presence
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:27 PM
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9. Must certainly be somebody important.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:38 PM
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10. the rebels now have planes and pilots
the kamikaze story certainly is plausable.

from aljazeera:

4:30pm
Anti-government activists said that rebels commanding fighter jets have destroyed two of Gaddafi's warships off the northeast coast of Ajdabiya.

The opposition also claimed to have hit a third naval ship in the air attack, according to opposition website Libya al-Youm.

A number of army generals and soldiers, particularly in the Libyan Air Force, have defected to join the rebels and have an arsenal of weapons and fighter jets at their disposal.

The alleged attack comes as Gaddafi's forces continue to battle for control of Ajdabiya and the nearby city of Brega in order to advance on to the opposition stronghold of Benghazi.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:18 PM
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14. Actually, it was a fighter pilot out of Tripoli under
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 07:18 PM by tabatha
Gaddafi's orders who, instead of returning to the Libyan Army after the bombing raid, decided to try to do in Gaddafi.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 06:48 PM
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11. More on the pilot attack:
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 07:00 PM by pinboy3niner
11:16pm:

A trusted source has confirmed to us this story: The pilot who flew his plane into Bab Al Aziziyah took off as part of a 2 plane team with the mission of bombing strategic points in Al Guradibya base in Sirte. Their orders were to return immedietly after completing the mission. One pilot followed orders while the other flew to Tripoli where he emptied what he had left of ammunition on Bab Al Aziziyah and then crashed his plane into it.


http://feb17.info /


Remember, this is unconfirmed. I've been following this all day and constantly checking for some confirmation. Nothing. AJE's Tony Birtley mentioned ruimors of an attack on Gaddafi in his last video report from Benghazi (I posted it at the end of the last thread, and it's on AJE's blog). One print report also mentioned rumors of an attack, but there still has been no confirmation.


Edited to add:

Video of Tony Birtley reporting from Benghazi (ref. to rumor of attack on Gaddafi):

Libya update (3:33)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8HWgzZjot4&feature=play...

AND this ref. in an Australian news report:



At the same time, fireworks were seen exploding overhead amid rumours, later denied, that Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi's residence in Tripoli had been bombed.

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/heavy-fire-heard-i...



Both cite only rumor, and provide no independent confirmation.





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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:11 PM
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12. Two more pilots defect.
01:52 Almanara Media reports that two defecting fighter jets have just landed at Benghazi airport and have joined the revolution.

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:16 PM
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13. More defections
02:11 Almanara Media are reporting that 25 soldiers and an Officer from the Khamis battalion have defected near the city of Misratah and have joined the revolution
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:34 PM
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15. LibyaFeb17_com tweets from the past few hours, details todays events:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:34 PM
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16. The battle is NOT lost people. Just wait and see. #Libya is the country of surprises
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
The battle is NOT lost people. Just wait and see. #Libya is the country of surprises, and the revolutionaries will pull this back.
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:34 PM
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17. Understatement! This was posted hours before the defections and counter attacks!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:43 PM
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38. Here are the feb17 posts during the day:
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 07:43 PM by pinboy3niner
Here's the chronology from two different feb17 pages, each arranged in chronological order from the top (some of the tweet reports of shooting, explosions and fire at Gaddafi's compound, and the sound of ambulance(s) racing there, are posted in the last thread):


http://feb17.info /

7:28pm: News in the twitter community that there are confirmed reports of explosions and gunfire in Tripoli. Some are saying that the source is from within Baab Al Aziziyah, others saying that they are celebratory due to the retaking of Brega and moving closer to Benghazi


7:31pm: Further reports from the twitter community. @LibyanDictator tweets Confirmed: Gordabiya military base in Sirte bombed by Libyan peoples air force


8:03pm: Almanara Media confirms the following:

1.Al Gurdabiyya airbase near Sirt has been subject to air strikes by the defected Free Libyan Airforce

2.Shooting and explosions have happened in Baab Al Aziziyah.

3.A big fire has erupted inside Baab Al Aziziyah

4.The defected Free Libyan airforce has bombarded three Gaddafi military convoys headed to the east


8:32pm: Almanara Media The huge fire that has erupted inside Baab Al Aziziyah was due to a martyr mission using a fighter jet to crash into the compound


11:16pm:

A trusted source has confirmed to us this story: The pilot who flew his plane into Bab Al Aziziyah took off as part of a 2 plane team with the mission of bombing strategic points in Al Guradibya base in Sirte. Their orders were to return immedietly after completing the mission. One pilot followed orders while the other flew to Tripoli where he emptied what he had left of ammunition on Bab Al Aziziyah and then crashed his plane into it.

_______________________________________

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /


20:03 BREAKING Almanara Media confirms the following:

1.Al Gurdabiyya airbase near Sirt has been subject to air strikes by the defected Free Libyan Airforce

2.Shooting and explosions have happened in Baab Al Aziziyah.

3.A big fire has erupted inside Baab Al Aziziyah

4.The defected Free Libyan airforce has bombarded three Gaddafi military convoys headed to the east

5.Demonstrations have broken out in Girgarish, Tripoli


20:32 BREAKING BREAKING from Almanara Media The huge fire that has erupted inside Baab Al Aziziyah was due to a martyr mission using a fighter jet to crash into the compound

23:16 Update: A trusted source has confirmed to us this story: The pilot who flew his plane into Baab Al Aziziyah took off as part of a 2 plane team with the mission of bombing strategic points in Al Guradibya base in Sirte. Their orders were to return immedietly after completing the mission. One pilot followed orders while the other flew to Tripoli where he emptied what he had left of ammunition on Baab Al Aziziyah and then crashed his plane into it

00:33 @ShababLibya tweet: The Pilot who flew his jet into Bab Azizia was the martyr Muhammad Mokhtar Osman from Benghazi. May God have mercy on your soul dear brother, your sacrifice has not gone in vain and we will continue with this till our country is free.

01:14 Almanara Media reports that two people of importance have been badly injured as a result of the fighter jet crash into Baab Al Aziziyah earlier and have been taken to Tripolis Burns and Reconstruction hospital. There is currently a heavy presence of security around the building and unconfirmed reports point to the injured being from Gaddafis sons.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:44 PM
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40. Thanks, I believe the veracity of these posts are about 90%-95% true.
There may be details lost but the revolutionaries almost certainly made a comeback today, in a huge way.
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catchnrelease Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 02:29 AM
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52. Yes!
I hope they can come back strong. Meanwhile the US/UN/UK/EU/AU/AL--the whole friggin alphabet--are "mulling" everydamnthing.....I swear if I hear that word again I'll scream.
I'm so proud of how we're helping. :sarcasm:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:35 PM
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18. war is never lost until spirit is broken. Even if u loose a few battles #Libya
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
RT @HarisAlisic: @LibyaFeb17_com war is never lost until spirit is broken. Even if u loose a few battles #Libya
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:35 PM
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19. Explosions and gunfire heard in Tripoli
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
Report: Explosions and gunfire heard in Tripoli - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:35 PM
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20. Gordabiya military base in Sirte bombed by Libyan people's air force
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
Report: Gordabiya military base in Sirte bombed by Libyan people's air force - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:36 PM
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21. Almanara Media confirms Gurdabiyya near Sirt bombarded by defected airforce
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Almanara Media confirms Gurdabiyya near Sirt bombarded by defected airforce - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:36 PM
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22. Almanara Media confirms shooting and explosions occurred inside Baab Al Aziziyah
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Almanara Media confirms shooting and explosions occurred inside Baab Al Aziziyah - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:36 PM
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23. Almanara Media confirms that a huge fire has erupted inside Baab Al Aziziyah
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Almanara Media confirms that a huge fire has erupted inside Baab Al Aziziyah - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:37 PM
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24. Almanara Media confirms defected Airforce bombed 3 Gaddafi military convoys headed east
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Almanara Media confirms defected Airforce bombed 3 Gaddafi military convoys headed east - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
6 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:37 PM
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25. Almanara Media -Fire in Baab Al Aziziyah caused by martyr mission with fighter jet
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING BREAKING: Almanara Media -Fire in Baab Al Aziziyah caused by martyr mission with fighter jet - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
5 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:37 PM
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26. Almanara Media: Fighter jet crashed into Baab Al Aziziyah and caused the huge fire!
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING BREAKING Almanara Media: Fighter jet crashed into Baab Al Aziziyah and caused the huge fire! - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
5 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:38 PM
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27. Ajdabiya is NOT in the hands of Gaddafi's forces
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Ajdabiya is NOT in the hands of Gaddafi's forces - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-
5 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:38 PM
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28. Ajdabiya is under the control of the revolutionaries!
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Ajdabiya is under the control of the revolutionaries! - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-
5 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:38 PM
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29. Morale amongst Tripoli youth is SKY HIGH!
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
CONFIRMED by us: Morale amongst Tripoli youth is SKY HIGH! They're just bracing till situation is not totally suicidal. #Libya #Feb17
4 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:39 PM
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30. Revolutionaries capture Greek ship loaded with fuel and redirect it to Port of Tobruk instead
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
Update: Revolutionaries capture Greek ship loaded with fuel and redirect it to Port of Tobruk instead - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
4 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:39 PM
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31. Revolutionaries in Ajdabiya have captured 7 tanks in very good condition!
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Revolutionaries in Ajdabiya have captured 7 tanks in very good condition! - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
4 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:39 PM
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32. 6 cars filled with Khamis battalion troops surrender in Tobruk

LibyaFeb17.com
Almanara Media: 6 cars filled with Khamis battalion troops surrender in Tobruk - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
3 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:40 PM
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33. Pilot who crashed jet was assigned to bomb Sirt airbase & return to Benghazi. He flew to Tripoli
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
Pilot who crashed jet was assigned to bomb Sirt airbase & return to Benghazi. He flew to Tripoli after mission - #libya http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
2 hours ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:40 PM
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34. Just as people were losing hope this evening. NFZ rejected, Ajdabiya surrounded. NO HOPE they said!
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
Just when people were losing hope this evening. NFZ rejected, Ajdabiya surrounded. NO HOPE they said! There is ALWAYS hope my friends #Libya
1 hour ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:41 PM
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36. Libya should not hold its breath on a NFZ. The people started this revolution & they will finish it!
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
@LibyaLiberation #Libya should not hold its breath on a #NFZ. The people started this revolution without a resolution & they will finish it!
1 hour ago
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:43 PM
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39. Ajdabiya revolutionaries display captured tanks today
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 07:43 PM by joshcryer
@LibyaFeb17_com
LibyaFeb17.com
Translated: Ajdabiya revolutionaries display captured tanks today - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-15-updates /
44 minutes ago
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:41 PM
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35. Oops, LOL! Regime shows 'terrorist' to press, but..."I'm NOT Al Qaeda," he says.





Militant contradicts Libya's version of revolt

Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:29pm GMT


By Michael Georgy


TRIPOLI, March 15 (Reuters) - A rebel presented by Libya's government as proof of al Qaeda's role in the rebellion publicly denied any links to the group on Tuesday when foreign journalists met him in the capital Tripoli.

The government took a large group of reporters to meet the Libyan man, Salah Abu Obah, saying he was a militant involved in a four-week-old uprising against Muammar Gaddafi's 41-year rule.

"I can't believe I am sitting next to an al Qaeda affiliate," said a government spokesman, introducing the man sporting a beard and wearing a black sweatshirt with a hood.

Obah gave a different account of himself. "I am not a member of al Qaeda," he told reporters.

The spokesman appeared unmoved by the departure from plan and continued to translate his comments.

...


At the end of what would appear to have been a less than entirely successful exercise, Obah quietly left with his minder to return to his detention.


http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFSGE72...




His minder may be sharing a cell with him tonight. :rofl:






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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:42 PM
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37. That's hilarious! Hahaha!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:49 PM
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41. NYT on the fall of Ajdabiya (which the revolutionaries dispute):
Qaddafi Forces Seize Another Rebel Stronghold
Iman Bugaighis, a professor who has become a spokeswoman for the rebels, lost her composure as she spoke about the recent death of a friends son, who died in battle last week. Her friends other son, a doctor, was still missing. Western nations, she said, had lost any credibility.

I am not crying out of weakness, she added. Ill stay here until the end. Libyans are brave. We will stand for what we believe in. But we will never forget the people who stood with us and the people who betrayed us.

There were mixed signals about the prospects of Western military help. After a meeting of the Group of 8 foreign ministers in Paris, the French foreign minister, Alain Jupp, said he had been unable to secure agreement on the imposition of a no-flight zone. If we had used military force last week to neutralize a certain number of airfields and the dozens of airplanes available to Colonel Qaddafi, perhaps the reversals suffered by the opposition would not have happened, he said. But that is the past.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:30 PM
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42. Sirt: Airport, air base, and 2 Gaddafi battalions reported under control of revolutionaries
02:11 Almanara Media trusted sources are reporting that Sirts airport, Al Gurdabiyaa air base and two Gaddafi battalions are currently under the control of the defected 36th battalion and the revolutionaries.

http://www.libyafeb17.com /





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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:33 PM
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43. Almanara Media: Revolutionaries in Ajdabiya capture 200 and kill 20 Gaddafi troops today
02:48 Almanara Media is reporting that the revolutionaries captured 200 and killed 20 from Gaddafis troops today

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/march-16-updates /





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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:33 PM
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44. Almanara Media reports the revolutionaries captured 200 and killed 20 from Gaddafis troops today
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:33 PM
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45. Laying aside, just for the moment, the humanitarian and political issues involved in all of this...
it is just so difficult to gauge the strategic and tactical considerations of the rebel forces.

Have they been holding these air assets in abeyance until Gadaffi's forces were stretched out along the road to Benghazi; have they been waiting for enough inner discontent with the regime in Sirte; have they given up on any intervention in the form of NFZ, and have now taken to the skies themselves?

The list of possible questions, and combinations of answers I suppose, is endless.

As one whose own military experience/role has left him with a lifelong interest in strategy and tactics, I admit (without forgetting or downplaying the human crisis involved) to having a real interest on how the rebels see the hand they hold, as opposed to that of their opponents.

I'm really hoping they are showing some sign of gaining combat discipline; difficult when you are dealing with fighters whose zeal outweighs their experience. Hopefully, those who have military training, or are defectors from Gaddafi's forces, are having some success in this.

Seeing them with an air arm, no matter how small, is certainly an unexpected, positive development (unexpected for me, anyway).
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:42 PM
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46. Photo of Muhammad Mukhtar Osman: Martyr who flew his fighter jet into Bab Al-Azziziyah



Photo of Muhammad Mukhtar Osman: Martyr who allegedly flew his fighter jet into Bab Al-Azziziyah on March 15


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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:45 PM
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47. Thanks, it will go in part 2 update.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:51 PM
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48. They added an inscription when they put it on libyafeb17.com just now:

03:35 Photo of Pilot Mohammed Mokhtar Osman who crashed his fighter jet into Baab Al Aziziyah today. May God have mercy on your soul my dear brother. I sit here speechless, at awe of what you did, proud of you as my countryman. We will continue till we free our country, every Libyan promises you this

http://www.libyafeb17.com /





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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:10 PM
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49. Egyptian state security disbanded




Egyptian state security disbanded


Interior minister disbands country's hated state security agency, which was accused of torture and human rights abuses.


Last Modified: 15 Mar 2011 20:58 GMT


Egypt's interior minister has disbanded the country's feared state security agency, which was accused of torture and human rights abuses during the 30-year rule of former president Hosni Mubarak.

Major General Mansour el-Essawy, a former Cairo security chief and the new interior minister, announced the dissolution of the security apparatus in a statement on Tuesday.

He said a new agency in charge of keeping national security and combatting terrorism will be formed "in line with the constitution and principles of human rights".

Officers for the new agency will be chosen in the coming few days, the statement said, adding that the new agency will "serve the country without intervening in the lives of citizens while they practice their rights and political life".


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/03/20...








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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:20 PM
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50. Tea of Freedom song
Tea of Freedom song (2:41)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SIzRiZdCY&feature=play...


Translation:

O tea of freedom!
Ya la la la laa lee
O you that is dear to me!
Ya la la la laa lee
Your strength is 100/100!
Ya la la la laa lee
O tea of freedom!
Ya la la la laa lee

O traitor of our revolution, off to your grave directly! Hey! Off to your grave directly!
Off to your grave directly!

Oh you who dirtied our reputation, you wellington boots face! Hey! You wellington boots face!
You wellington boots face!

You who made no Governor accept our flag! Hey! No Governor accept our flag!
No Governor accept our flag!

You whos killing our family, Ya la la laa lee
In control of our things, ya la la laa lee
You whos killing our family, Ya la la laa lee
In control of our things, ya la la laa lee

You who is spreading our wealth, between Chad and Mali, Hey! Between Chad and Mali!
Between Chad and Mali!

To your grave directly! To your grave directly! To your grave directly!



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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:21 PM
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51. Day 27 part 2 here:
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