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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:12 PM
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Perfect cartoon


Mike Peters has been hitting it out of the park for decades.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:14 PM
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1. BINGO!
Thanks for that, I needed it. :hi:
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:15 PM
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2. You're quite welcome.
I've been thinking about it for days, and finally found it at this site:

http://solarcities.blogspot.com/2008/04/big-solar-comin...

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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:26 PM
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3. You want solar power? They own the technology. nt
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:53 AM
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11. Bullshit.
My father-in-law has patents on new solar panels. He's 84 and has been working on this for decades.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 01:22 AM
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12. Ain't gonna be creating some new wonderful utopia
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 01:24 AM by Confusious

It ain't going to be the guy in the barn with his Mr.Fusion making the solar panels. It's going to be one of many corporations, and unless things change, "meet the new master, same as the old master"
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:13 AM
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 04:45 PM
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26. No it's not.
Edited on Tue Mar-15-11 04:46 PM by Confusious
Based on the history of a majority of corporations from the past. It's always "meet the new master, same as the old master"

Technology, Sources. The government gives leases, when it comes to oil, so they don't "own" the sources, if you want to argue semantics. They "own" the means to get the product. Same goes for some coal mines, uranium mines and gas.

You might want to look up Argument from authority. If you can't figure out how it applies, I'll explain it to you.
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paulkienitz Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 10:10 PM
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34. with solar, control of power will never be centralized
Because solar cell installations have no economy of scale, and there is no proprietary control of key manufacturing secrets, I don't think solar panels are ever going to be something controlled by any big bossdom.

On the other hand, it's not going to be any replacement for the cheapness and convenience of petroleum... that was a one-time gift from our planet.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:28 PM
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4. What? You want solar power? We own the rare earth mines. You want solar power...
...we own the land. It can go on and on.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:59 PM
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6. Indeed. They already claim to own the rain. Owning the sunlight isn't much of a stretch beyond that.
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:03 AM
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8. Now might be a good time to rewatch Tank Girl.
It seems to be the direction this is heading in.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:47 PM
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16. That's disgusting.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:27 PM
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22. Maybe it's because I come from New York, that has plenty of water
but I have a time understanding how people let laws like this get passed in the first place.

I can understand not being able to pull water from a river or stream, but rainwater that is free, that falls on my property, is not legally mine? That is some serious BS.

Can they fine you or do you have to pay for pulling water from a well or a spring on your own property? If you have cattle can you create a pond on your land to collect water for them?

It's no longer true that a mans home is his castle, so I guess there is no reason to collect water for your moat.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 05:01 PM
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27. But they don't own the
fucking sun
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 11:53 PM
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5. Kick!
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:01 AM
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7. *Yoink!* -Straight to the HD.
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WhoIsNumberNone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:05 AM
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9. K&R
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 12:37 AM
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10. kr
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:53 AM
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13. I've long wondered...
...why homeowners don't have horizontal wind turbines mounted along their rooflines. Well, actually I always understood the reason.

Thanks for posting.
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 04:00 AM
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14. K+R
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:50 PM
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17. that reminds me of an old Simpsons episode
From a school film:

"The moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits the arrival of our astro-men. Will you be among them?"
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:51 PM
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18. K&R n/t
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webdiva Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 02:55 PM
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19. LOL
Great find!
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:11 PM
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20. As soon as they get the rights to the wind and sun . . .
we'll get clean energy.

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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:11 PM
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21. Mike Peters is incredible
Really, really nice guy too.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:39 PM
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23. Perfect is the word.
When are going to throw off the chains of corporatism so this nation can fully embrace solar power?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 03:53 PM
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24. K&R, & saved. (nt)
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 04:01 PM
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25. Perfect
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 05:36 PM
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28. You want AIR?
Well, go ahead. Just don't blame us if you get sick from it!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 05:41 PM
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29. Some day they will find a way to own the sun
:(
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 07:59 PM
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30. k&R
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:24 PM
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31. Who killed the sun
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 08:59 PM
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32. Unfortunately, LABOR doesn't own itself -- we should be organizing LABOR
person by person -- unrelated to the workplace --

and take that to the states and demand universal health care!

Let's have companies and corporations come to UNITED LABOR when they need

employees -- and we set the terms, the salaries and conditions!!

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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 09:57 PM
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33. EXACTLY! They can't put a meter on the sun
That's the ONLY reason why renewables have not been used more. The power grid MUST be de-centralized. People should be able to use small hydro, solar, and wind power to power their own homes, and sell the power back to the grid.
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-11 11:23 PM
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35. That is a great cartoon...
I remember it, but can't remember how old it is... didn't he do it awhile back?
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