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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:02 PM
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The PM is now on
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:06 PM
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1. Radiation has spread and it is very high
there is further risk of radioactive material coming out. He is going into the 20 km exclusion zone. We need now for everybody to move out of the exclusion zone, and in areas of 20-30 km depends on what happens at the power plant, remain indoors, at home and offices.

avoid going out

For Fukushima 2 people have all most evacuated from 10 km exclusion zone. We are requesting people leave 10 km exclusion zone. They are making all efforts to avoid more explosions or leaks. The people at the power plant are carrying out operations to cool down reactors, in that sense we hope that we can avoid further rad leaks.

I would like to ask the nation, although this is an incident of great concern, I request that you remain calm. I would like to end my request and message to the people of Japan
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:07 PM
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2. Now he is not talking of individual units, but at the total picture
Oh and my reaction is... this is damn serious... as in we are now beyond horrific.
Edano is coming on now
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:08 PM
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3. I missed the PM, but am following now... Many thanks.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:09 PM
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4. ? Fire at #4 where spent fuels are stored. Mother of Buddha.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:10 PM
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5. Number 4 is 'burning' ?
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:11 PM by Tx4obama

And wasn't there 'spent fuel' being stored in all the other buildings 'above' the reactors too?
No one seems to be talking about that!

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:14 PM
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6. That's what the graphics show. I've been harboring that little
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:16 PM by WheelWalker
gem for a few hours now.

ON EDIT: The fact of stored spent fuel above the operating reactors. That had to be blown away, didn't it?
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:15 PM
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7. We are talking about numbers that can affect human health
Did I hear that correctly?
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 PM
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10. That's affirmative.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:29 PM
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23. Thanks
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 PM
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11. Yes you heard transcription bellow you
Generic instructions now...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 PM
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8. Edano talking of number four reactor which now has a fire
(that is at Daichi, number two.

Number four was out of operation at reactor and only has spent fuel (I am mixed if this is good news)... no, hydrogen was generated...

Reactor number four seems to have had an explosion too... hydrogen explosion

One and three had secondary containment breached (outer buildings) number four had debris fall on it.

Hydrogen is being generated, assume radioactive substances released, and four is no longer housed by secondary containment, so it is coming from primary containment and doing all tehy can to cool down.

To number two, a blast was heard this morning and it was thirty minutes after four that number two, a hole was observed on number two... so we have been saying that there is very little risk of hydrogen explosion from number two. It happened when Edano was holding a press conference. The suppression chamber seems to have caused this blast and small amount of radioactive substance was released. Steam could be hydrogen, So one, two and three have water injection and all three reactors have water injection. Cooling is being done. The next step is to keep cooling. And of course they have a fire on number four.

As to rad level as of 10:22 level is 30 mserv at three, 300 at two, and 400 mservt at four. (comment from me, oh shit)

These are levels that can impact heath. Asking for calm

These are readings near the area. And of course the further away it will drop (time distance)

As of six AM the staff was evacuated... except for 50 to inject water (they are dead no way around it, in time)

We have asked to evacuate from the 20 km exclusion zone, new developments 20-30 km stay inside. (No shit sherlock)

Keep windows shut, do not use AC or other ventilation equipment, and hang laundry indoors

(ok this is worst than they are letting on... )

Conversion for sieverts

SI multiples and conversions

Frequently used SI multiples are the millisievert (1 mSv = 10−3 Sv) and microsievert (1 μSv = 10−6 Sv) or (1 mSv = 0.001 Sv) and (1 μSv = 0.000001 Sv).
An older unit of the equivalent dose is the rem (Rntgen equivalent man). In some fields and countries, the rem and millirem (abbreviated mrem) continue to be used along with Sv and mSv, causing confusion. Here are the conversion equivalences:
1 Sv = 100 rem
1 mSv = 100 mrem = 0.1 rem
1 μSv = 0.1 mrem
1 rem = 0.01 Sv = 10 mSv
1 mrem = 0.00001 Sv = 0.01 mSv = 10 μSv



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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:20 PM
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12. daiichi = #1.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:30 PM
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24. Thanks
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:30 PM
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26. Thanks
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:37 PM
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31. MSNBC on right now with this
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:17 PM
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9. Jesus criminey. He's talking about hanging laundry indoors instead of outside!
This is crazy!!!

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:20 PM
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13. No this is standard for this type of an emergency
I just hope the recall don't come for me... (which should be really good news)
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:20 PM
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14. High probability of container breach in #2
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:21 PM
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15. #4 is "hot"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:22 PM
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16. yes, that does not shock me
All I can say is crimey.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:24 PM
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I am so grateful that you found this presser. Blessings.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:29 PM by WheelWalker
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:30 PM
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25. Listening to NHK for a while now
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:33 PM
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28. Bookmarked
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:23 PM
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17. I think I just heard him say 30 km radius to stay indoors.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:24 PM
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18. You heard correctly
They got 0-20 km exclusion zone

And 20-30 km a stay indoors order
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:26 PM
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19. Current high readings are coming from the #4 reactor. TEPCO rep coming up next, I think.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:26 PM by WheelWalker
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:26 PM
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20. K&R....I hope hope that crap doesn't blow our way....n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:28 PM
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21. If it stays near the surface it will not
mostly...

If it somehow gets into the jet stream it will ... remember, time\distance... the further you are the lower the readings, and the effect on health. At this point it should be mostly minimal, but...
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:28 PM
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22. It's like he's reading the school closures on a snow day
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:29 PM by WheelWalker
as the names of the affected towns are rolled off
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:30 PM
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27. Neutron radiation out of reactor #3 "because of its nature" (MOX ?)
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:31 PM by WheelWalker
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:35 PM
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29. Now noting shift from specifying micro sieverts previously to milli sieverts now
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:36 PM
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30. We are at significant leak level
I had to get a crash course on severts, I was used to Rads....
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:37 PM
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32. I'm not used to either
and am not great at deciphering measurements.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:40 PM
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33. If they are telling the people this shit - I mean countermeasures - it is really bad. Bummer.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 09:41 PM by WheelWalker
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:41 PM
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35. My gut is now they are coming to the come to jesus
L-6 disaster moment (if not outright L-7)
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:46 PM
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36. Coming to Jesus. We've got fire at #4, with serious fallout.
Reminds me of Chernobyl. L-7
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:47 PM
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37. Yeah but they have been insisting it is just a L-4
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:02 PM
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41. No doubt it is very bad there now
and coming on top of all that's happened - terrible.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:41 PM
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34. What is going to happen to these people?
I doubt enough have "concrete" houses which are sealed enough to protect them. Let alone enough food and other supplies. How will they get out of this hot area and to someplace safer? The area is the sight of a natural disaster excluding this nuclear disaster.

Those poor helpless people!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:48 PM
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38. Many WILL die...
that is what will happen... I hate to be this crass.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 09:57 PM
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39. Crass? Perhaps. I thought it was more blunt
It's not far off from the cancers, and perhaps even direct radiation sickness (depending on what takes place in the immediate future, and where they're located), I keep fearing will be in their futures. Worst of all they're trapped now. It's too late to flee for anyone already there.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:05 PM
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42. And it is cummulative
this crap is cummulative
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:02 PM
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40. Thanks for keeping on top of these things for DU
Edited on Mon Mar-14-11 10:09 PM by Tsiyu

you are a treasure

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

0306: Winds over the stricken nuclear plant are blowing slowly towards the Kanto region, which includes Tokyo, Reuters reports.0303: Radiation is 400 times the annual legal limit near Fukushima's reactor 3, the Kyodo news agency reports.0256: Apologies for the delay with updating - this was due to technical problems.0241: And Mr Kan also confirms earlier reports that a fire has broken out at Fukushima's reactor 4.0210: The premier also urges people within 19 miles (30km) of the Fukushima complex in the area "to remain indoors".0207: Addressing the nation, Prime Minister Naoto Kan says that "there is a high risk of futher radioactive material coming out"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:06 PM
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43. You welcome, to a point some folks think this is like rubber necking
but this is not fun
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-11 10:12 PM
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44. Some of us rely on DU for news


especially out here in the boonies.

We have always relied on other DUers for up-to-the-minute info. And DUers always come through.

those who want to be sheltered can turn off the internets and go knit.

And this is very scary stuff, but thank you for keeping up for those of us without TVs.


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