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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:23 PM
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so now we have four reactors in trouble
people, we have officially entered nightmare scenario... Yes I haard about the number on the way home from a funeral...

oh shit does not start to describe this.

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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:26 PM
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1. In other news, the Japanese PM admits he was born in Kenya
and offers to step down immediately.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:28 PM
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2. And that he is Godzilla's son
:-)
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:31 PM
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5. Yikes!
With all the radiation he's going to be twice the size of his dad!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:36 PM
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8. Here
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 04:37 PM by nadinbrzezinski
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:40 PM
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10. funny stuff. you're a laff riot.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:10 PM by Hannah Bell
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:40 PM
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11. .
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:10 PM by Hannah Bell
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:29 PM
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3. This just keeps getting better and better..
:-(
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:30 PM
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4. they are not in trouble. Nuke power is 100% safe..at least that's what I read on DU lol nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:38 PM
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:00 PM
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13. yuk yuk. this emergency is providing such great comic/hobbyhorse material.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:00 PM by Hannah Bell
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:04 PM
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16. It's isn't the emergency that providing such great comic material...
It's the nuclear industry shills that are comical.

Oh, and BTW, until this event I was in favor of nuclear energy. Not anymore.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:06 PM
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17. i was against nukes before this event & still am. people's stance on nukes
has not a goddamn thing to do with anything at this point.

accurate, sourced information is priority #1.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:11 PM
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20. accurate, sourced information is priority #1
Really? How do you even know that your rosy-red glasses information is accurate and sourced reliably?

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:32 PM
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26. yes, maybe some space aliens are broadcasting disguised as "nhk".
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:33 PM by Hannah Bell
maybe it's an alien in a mask disguised as secretary endano.

3rd-hand unsourced information that people heard on the way home is more reliable thanks.

your post is idiotic.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:44 PM
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30. All the material is coming from people that say it over and over.
Do I detect some sour grapes?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:45 PM
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32. doubtful, as "sour grapes" = someone feeling bummed because someone else
has good fortune.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:59 PM
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12. but the dam broke!!! hydro is waaaaaaay worse than fluffy nuke temples!
i couldnt belive it when i read that persons inferance. wtf
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:32 PM
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6. Where did you hear/read this?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 04:35 PM
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7. CBS news at the top of the hour on the LA Station
1070 AM.. they have a hell of a powerful station.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:01 PM
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14. we don't need no damn links & citations
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:03 PM
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15. Real Information on the various Plants from the BBC
Your information is somewhat stale I'm afraid, and contains no links, no details, - just hearsay and hysteria.

Yes there are problems and "A State of Emergency' must be declared whenever there is any malfunction of any of the equipment - it does not mean the end of the world is nigh and we should all panic.

Fukushima-Daiichi #3 continues to be a big problem but, for the moment, is stable (whatever that means)

#
2142: Japanese authorities have told the UN nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, that radioactivity levels "at the site boundary" of the Onagawa nuclear power plant have returned to normal, Reuters reports. A state of emergency was declared at the site on Sunday after radioactivity readings exceeding allowed levels in the area.

#
1721: More on the Tokai nuclear power plant: A report submitted to the Ibaraki prefectural government by the Japan Atomic Power Company said that one of the two pumps being used to cool the water of a suppression pool for the plant's nuclear reactor had stopped working, according to the Kyodo news agency. However, the other pump was still working and there was no problem with cooling the reactor, the prefectural government said. All control rods were set in completely at the reactor, it added.
#
1749: A spokesman for the Japan Atomic Power Company has explained that one of the cooling system pumps at its Tokai nuclear power plant failed because of the tsunami. "We then manually stopped one of our cooling systems," Masao Nakano told the AFP news agency. "But the other cooling systems and other pumps are working well, and temperatures of the reactor have continued to fall smoothly."
#
1702: The Japan Atomic Power Company has said the cooling system of a reactor at its Tokai nuclear power plant is working, although two of the three diesel power generators used for cooling are out of order, the Reuters news agency reports. The plant, about 120km (75 miles) north of Tokyo in Ibaraki prefecture, was automatically shut down after Friday's earthquake.

Real, regularly updated and non hysterical information can be found at the BBC 'Earthquake Live' website for those interested in factual reporting:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:07 PM
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18. How do you know the reporting is factual? How do you know the source
of their information is reliable?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:13 PM
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21. #1: it's sourced. that allows people to go to the source & check it out.
rather than something "heard on the way home".

#2: it's not accompanied by hysterical personal commentary & cassandra-like predictions.
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Thunderstruck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:22 PM
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23. But it may be inaccurate, hysteria or no... No? I mean, even right now there's
a guy on CNN telling me everything is rosy, even though they're having to pump in sea water, which is a last-ditch effort to cool the core. Turns our he's an industry shill. According to him, I could heat my dinner up on that core and I'd be OK. Am I supposed to believe him because it is sourced?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:29 PM
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25. yes, it may be. and the solution to that is to post every unsourced trivial bit of crap
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:29 PM by Hannah Bell
you find accompanied by personal rants.

sea water will cool the core. it's "last-ditch" because it will make the reactor inoperable. i don't know what your problem is. i prefer saving people rather than reactors.
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:18 PM
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22. Oh, I don't know...maybe it is because they are the most revered
news station in the world? They have this weird habit of posting constant updates that correct any errors in earlier reports too - bizarre isn't it?

However, if you'd rather get your news from someone listening to an hours old report while driving in their car, and can provide no details or clear sources - have at it.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:10 PM
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19. thank you. i'm about ready to cry and i rarely cry.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:32 PM
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27. Take a walk and get some fresh air
At least this crisis doesn't involve throwing shit loads of money at Wall Street, because we don't have the luxury of time to think rationally.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:44 PM
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31. you're right, thank you.
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:22 PM
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24. by why not be hysterical????
Edited on Sun Mar-13-11 05:23 PM by rdking647
it feeds the anti nuke brigade.. Were all gonna die!!!!!!!!

i still havent the number of people killed by nukes in teh US compared to the numbers killed mining coal to run conventianal power plants..
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:38 PM
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28. And the number of people killed in collisions between 2 747s was zero.. until Tenerife.
The fact is, that nuclear disasters have the potential to be really, really, really bad. Obviously a lot of "worst case it'll never happen" scenarios have managed to come true in the past several days, pertaining to these plants. This is already a major nuclear disaster, the question is now whether the reactor containment vessels will hold.

I really, really, really hope they do.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 06:02 PM
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33. +1. you nailed it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-11 05:44 PM
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29. more of your excitement over any potential devastating scenario
ugh.
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