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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:01 AM
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Daniel Ellsberg Re: Manning's Torture-'They Don't Care...So Long As It Implicates WikiLeaks/Assange'
This shameful abuse of Bradley Manning

The WikiLeaks suspect's mistreatment amounts to torture. Either President Obama knows this or he should make it his business
Daniel Ellsberg

"President Obama tells us that he's asked the Pentagon whether the conditions of confinement of Bradley Manning, the soldier charged with leaking state secrets, 'are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards. They assure me that they are.' If Obama believes that, he'll believe anything."

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Crowley was responding to a question about the "torturing" of an American citizen, and, creditably, he didn't rebut that description. Prolonged isolation, sleep deprivation, nudity – that's right out of the manual of the CIA for "enhanced interrogation". We've seen it applied in Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib. It's what the CIA calls "no-touch torture", and its purpose there, as in this case, is very clear: to demoralise someone to the point of offering a desired confession. That's what they are after, I suspect, with Manning. They don't care if the confession is true or false, so long as it implicates WikiLeaks in a way that will help them prosecute Julian Assange.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/mar/11/bradley-manning-wikileaks
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:09 AM
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1. you know
if they have to beat a confession out of you why don't they just lie and say you confessed without the beating. They like to beat you.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:34 AM
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7. Who was that witness during the Clinton years which they tried to abuse into a confession?
Susan something or other. Now that's a brave woman.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:10 AM
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2. recommend
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CommonSensePLZ Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:12 AM
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3. I think they're making an example out of him
Edited on Sat Mar-12-11 10:15 AM by CommonSensePLZ
This guy seems TOUGH. He's been subject to their evil since last summer, but they're STILL doing it. I can only begin to fathom the "enhanced interrogation" : sarcasm : that he's enduring. That means he's not cracking. That means he's not going to name other peoples' names like they want.

So since he won't they're "giving him the treatment" to show other soldiers thinking of making the world know what corrupt things they're up to what they'll get. But I'm sure when we go to Libya we'll be perfect angels! *rolleyes*

Worst possibly than that they might be trying to break his mind so that when he gets court martialled, not if, they know they're eventually going to have to, maybe he won't name names and put all the dirty business on the record.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:34 AM
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8. And the worse they make it on him, the better the movie script.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:13 AM
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4. AND Scares Everyone Else Into Compliancy
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:15 AM
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5. K&R

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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 10:25 AM
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6. Breaking minds without breaking skin.
That's the goal. K & R.
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