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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:21 PM
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Maybe My Friends From The UK Were Right - The US Wasn't Ready For.......
a black president, a women president, or just a nice guy president. They told me what we needed after Bush was a democratic president that was a son of a bitch but at 180 degrees opposite of Bush. They told me that Obama was too nice and too good. They said that Hillary would get pilloried as well.

They said we needed a person that would take on the Repugs and not be afraid to prosecute the criminal behavior that went on throughout the Bush Administration and the Bush years. They said that this was the only way to put an end to it and that if we had a nice guy in the WH to kind of sooth over the last 8 years that it would only get worse.

I guess I should have listened to them. I voted with my heart. I had enough during those eight years and I wanted - really wanted - to see this country be great again.

I'm really sad and bummed out now.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:37 PM
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1. Will we ever evolve
beyond needing a strong-daddy-figure as a President? Lead us....lead us....we don't know where to go.....where does this inate desire for a lone solitary "leader" figure come from anyway? Not all cultures through history have had them. Can't we lead ourselves?
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:40 PM
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5. The left also has its authoritarian followers
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:42 PM
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7. Apparently we can because we ain't getting any help...
I'm not sure why Obama's most ardent supporters don't understand that if the man stays out of it, and we manage to get a recall and get the law overturned, then many people will see him as.. useless. That's a good campaign slogan "We stayed out of the way".
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:38 PM
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2. Ed Schultz for president!
Your friend may be right. A good leader has to have a strong vision and the ability to inspire to people. I believe President Obama has those qualities, but he seems to be more concerned about not making waves. He should let loose and lead America like I know he can.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:39 PM
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3. Oh the US was ready - and because we were desperate, many of us thought we had that in Obama...

so in addition to the disappointment of NOT having 'that' -- we also get to think about the fact that any time we got close to actually HAVING 'that', there's been an assassination or untimely odd death.

Now THAT's the real reason to be sad and bummed out.

We'll never have 'that'.


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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:40 PM
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4. obama is too much of a people pleaser
his "bipartisanship" doesn't hold water when dealing with an ENEMY that wants to DESTROY you.

and the teahadists are just that: enemies of free people.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:42 PM
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6. Was there even such a person in the primaries?
I don't recall any of the potential candidates being like that.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:03 PM
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15. +1000 n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:43 PM
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8. Eisenhower was a nice guy. And he was tough enough to take on the military industrial complex.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:46 PM
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9. As long as Americans vote against their own interests...
You won't be ready for real democracy.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:47 PM
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10. The people thought they were going to get "change" and got politics-as-usual.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:52 PM
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11. We don't HAVE anybody who fits that description!
Well, Anthony Weiner maybe. But Alan Grayson was voted out.

I had hoped our country WOULD be ready for a black president, but they aren't. I figured there might be some lingering piss-ant stuff about it but that everyone would at least TRY to grow up and join the 21st Century, and at least RECOGNIZE that we still had a problem and needed to deal with it and get over it. You know, kinda like adults. Instead we got small and very white crowds of adult-size two-year-olds, throwing temper tantrums and acting out from coast to coast.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:58 PM
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14. I'm sorry but I think you and the Brits are missing it here...Obama's problem is less
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 07:04 PM by whathehell
about being Black and more, IMO, to do about being wimpy and, or complicit with the repukes.

Truly, and if his lameness on Labor Rights in Wisconsin doesn't tell you, nothing will,

I think he's really a corporatist and a moderate republican...He's certainly no liberal.

I think we were "taken" by this guy...Trojan horse.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:06 PM
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16. Yeah, I was thinking along that line... like who WAS there?
FDR refused to run again. :(
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:52 PM
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12. they may have been correct, but a "Democrat who was a son of a bitch"
wouldn't have won the office.

And that would have left us with McCain/Palin.

All this "we should have" really doesn't help us. All it does is demoralize and distract us imo.

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 06:53 PM
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13. We need a Howard Dean... I don't know about their take on what we're "ready" for..
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 07:02 PM by whathehell
Judging by their recent pms (They didn't so well with Thatcher either)

they haven't done all that well for themselves.:eyes:
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 07:12 PM
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17. What we really needed in 2008 . . .
Was someone who could channel LBJ. Unfortunately, neither Obama nor Hillary Clinton quite fit the bill. Any suggestions?
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:10 PM
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18. Dean.
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Imajika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:17 PM
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19. Because your friends from the UK, a country which elected David Cameron..
..and kept Margaret "union destroyer" Thatcher and John Major in power for what seemed an eternity have room to talk?

You realize the UK has gone the "austerity" route FAR beyond what the United States government is even thinking of doing right? Have you seen the cuts the UK government is about to push through?

The UK is no more enlightened than the United States - at all. And when it comes to issues of immigration/xenophobia, I think it is arguable the UK is downright backwards compared to the US.
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