Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Overheard yesterday: "We should go back to the original Constitution, like it was in 1776."

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:00 AM
Original message
Overheard yesterday: "We should go back to the original Constitution, like it was in 1776."
If I had been drinking something at the time, I would have passed it through my nose. The women had been yacking constantly and mostly re-runs of teabagger shit that's been posted on DU for months. Despite my efforts to avoid them, I still kept finding myself in the same aisles because there was something I needed there. I'm not sure how, but I did manage to hold my tongue and avoid trying to educate them on simple history. It probably would have been a lost cause anyway. If I had broken down, I probably would have said something like "Oh, you mean the Articles of Confederation, but technically they weren't ratified until 1781." Most likely, I would have just gotten blank stares reflecting the empty space in their heads.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:04 AM
Response to Original message
1. Well, she had a point. In the original Constitution she, of course, had no voice...
...and I'm sure you would have appreciated that at the time. ;-)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:06 AM
Response to Original message
2. Even if we accept this as 'Articles of Confederation'...
this means no Bill of Rights. No freedom of speech or assembly. No prohibition of 'cruel and unusual punishment'. No right to avoid self-incrimination. And, worst of all for a teabagger: no right to bear arms!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:14 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Oh yeah, the urge to go on a rant was really hard to hold back.
I'd already gotten the milk and cheese so I didn't have time to spend two hours educating them on the Constitution, but it would sort of be like trying to knock down a brick wall with a strand of boiled spaghetti - no way to make progress.

On a side note, there was an SUV in the handicapped spot (no handicapped tag or rear-view mirror hanger) with at least a dozen teabagger-like bumper stickers. If I were the gambling sort, I would have found a bookie and put a major bet on that belonging to one of those two.

:rant: It really pisses me off when people park in the handicapped spot and don't have the right to, all politics aside. That's just sick. I have to use a cane but I don't have one of those tags because I see more than enough people who need the spots more than I do. Some people are just selfish assholes.
:rant:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. YEah, that Bill of Rights part was the FIRST ...........
thing I thought of. Then the 14th Amendment. Then no sufferage for women. Don't these people think at ALL?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 09:09 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. Um, no.
They at least have no clue about the so-called "Constitution" they want to go back to. It didn't even fucking EXIST in 1776. Even if they meant the version that was eventually ratified, that didn't include their so loved 2nd Amendment. They're just fucking idiots. "News? Well, FOX of course! What else is there?"

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:11 AM
Response to Original message
3. That level of stupid really should be excruciatingly painful.
If it was there might be less stupid about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:19 AM
Response to Original message
5. I would bet if you say "Articles of Confederation" you get a blank stare.
Then something about the South in the Civil War.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Well to be fair, I doubt that most people you ask would know they ever existed.
They aren't really covered well in history class because, although feeding into the draft of 1786, they really didn't have a lasting impact and were ultimately a horrible failure. You can see how they influenced the republic as detailed in the US Constitution, but it was at least a starting point, failure or not. With limited time, I can understand why they are glossed over in history classes, but the idea that the US Constitution magically came into existence along with the Declaration of Independence just makes me laugh so hard I fart.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:46 AM
Response to Original message
7. HH - another victory for our edicatinal system-after W!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. I tried to be fair. I went to school in the 70's and they did a good job with history. Still,...
...they didn't take the time to deal with the Articles of Confederation and I understand why now. You have to read them to really understand why the Constitution was written as it was.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:49 AM
Response to Original message
9. It's that tea bagger stupidity which makes them comically amusing.
They don't know much, and what they do know is almost certainly wrong, but they're 100% sure of it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:51 AM
Response to Original message
10. I guess she doesn't care about her right to vote. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 08:54 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. I filed that in the "lost cause argument" bin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Aug 20th 2014, 08:33 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC