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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:55 AM
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Walkerloo: 111.70 (4) (L) Strikes prohibited, Strikers will be fired.
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 08:57 AM by kpete
Wed Mar 09, 2011 at 11:18 PM EST
Walker's Waterloo: 111.70 (4) (L) Strikes prohibited, Strikers will be fired.

by Patience John
THE WHOLE BLASTED THING HERE:
http://legis.wisconsin.gov/insession/insessiondocs/docs/JR1AB11-CA1.pdf


(snippets)

Layoffs, they are coming.Updated by Patience John at Wed Mar 9, 2011, 11:34:14 PM

Page 64

SECTION 198. 111.06 (1) (c) - Secret Ballot has been stripped.


Updated by Patience John at Wed Mar 9, 2011, 11:37:45 PM

Page 81

111.70 (4) (L) Strikes prohibited. Except as authorized under par. (cm) 5. and 15 6. c., nothing Nothing contained in this subchapter constitutes a grant of the right 16 to strike by any municipal employee or labor organization, and such strikes are 17 hereby expressly prohibited.

Right to Strike Repealed.

Updated by Patience John at Wed Mar 9, 2011, 11:39:55 PM

Also Page 81

111.70 (4) (mb) Prohibited subjects of bargaining; general municipal employees.


Here's the big one:

Page 112:

230.34 (1) (ax) 1. Notwithstanding pars. (a), (am), and (ar), during a state of emergency declared by the governor under s. 323.10, an appointing authority may discharge any employee who does any of the following:

b. Participates in a strike, work stoppage, sit−down, stay−in, slowdown, or other concerted activities to interrupt the operations or services of state government, including specifically participation in purported mass resignations or sick calls.



So anyone who strikes, will be fired.

Finally judgment is that this bill infringes on the Constitutional right to assembly and redress and will not pass the litmus test in any court based on rule of law.


MORE:http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/09/954642/-Walkers-Waterloo:11170-%284%29-%28L%29-Strikes-prohibited,-Strikers-will-be-fired-

.............

In a Labor Day address in 1980, Ronald Reagan said:

"These are the values inspiring those brave workers in Poland … They remind us that where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost."
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:58 AM
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1. Recommend
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 AM
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2. K and R
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 08:59 AM
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3. This is so ugly
Someone should take those words of Ray-Gun's and write them BIG and run them in ads in all the major newspapers.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:00 AM
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4. When does Walker march into Poland?
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:04 AM
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5. Can he fire the entire state?
is he that delusional?
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:28 AM
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11. If the entire state goes on strike? Sure.
IF he thinks he can deal with the backlash at the loss of critical services. If he thinks that parents won't mind the schools closing down and the national guard running the prisons and enforcing the laws.

I doubt that he thinks that... but I also doubt that the entire state will strike other than in a symbolic way (a la europe).
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:07 AM
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6. The solution is to have EVERYONE strike.
What are they going to do, fire everyone? Fire all the teachers? All the Police? All the Fire fighters? Replace them with who? 10% with scabs, class size of what, 270-300 students. One cop who is on 8 hours a day who has to cover 4 times the area? Fight fires in Milwaukee but ignore the rest of the entire state?
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rdking647 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:13 AM
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7. one detail
this is the definition of a strike
wis stat 111.70(1)nm
Strike" includes any strike or other concerted stoppage of work by municipal employees, and any concerted slowdown or other concerted interruption of operations or services by municipal employees, or any concerted refusal to work or perform their usual duties as municipal employees, for the purpose of enforcing demands upon a municipal employer. Such conduct by municipal employees which is not authorized or condoned by a labor organization constitutes a "strike", but does not subject such labor organization to the penalties under this subchapter. This paragraph does not apply to collective bargaining units composed of municipal employees who are engaged in law enforcement or fire fighting functions.

any strike would be trying to force demands on the legislature.. they are not a "municipal employer". the teachers et all work for individual cities and school districts. they are not trying to force anything on their employer so its not an illegal strike

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:23 AM
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9. interesting catch.
If this plays out, I wonder if that will become material.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:19 AM
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8. Screw him. n/t
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:26 AM
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10. Many of them are already prohibited from striking.
Finally judgment is that this bill infringes on the Constitutional right to assembly and redress and will not pass the litmus test in any court based on rule of law.

There's plenty to complain about in this bill, but it wouldn't infringe on the constitutional right to assembly or to petition the government for a redress of grievances. That's just silly. It's like claiming that a government violated your free speech rights because they refused to provide you with a microphone and TV coverage.

They have to allow you to protest... they don't have to pay you to do it.

Now... if the law said that you could be fired for walking the picket line on your own time? THAT could raise some issues.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:35 AM
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12. Virtually no pay can be negotiated
A quick read reveals that merit, performance, overtime and other pay cannot be negotiated. Only base pay can be negotiated and that is limited to a COLA increase or less.

Plus, it doubles as a right to work law. You no longer have to pay dues. Who will pay union dues for a union that cannot negotiate? No one.

Except for public safety, the state and municipal unions are done in Wisconsin.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 09:37 AM
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13. make the people powerless, at the beck and call of the rich. repugs embrace. they started with
findamental rights.... and we the people caved


this is just the next step
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-11 10:27 AM
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14. We must all hang together," said Ben Franklin "or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately."
Edited on Thu Mar-10-11 10:27 AM by Historic NY
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