Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 20 (or 22*), Part 7

[Catherina]

Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 20 (or 22*), Part 7

Today's threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6

#Feb17 Youth organizers invite Gaddafi's collaborators to stand under his umbrella ella ella ella ella ella http://bit.ly/faa34E

"We have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya."
- Saif Islam Qaddafi during interview

*I called this Day 20 because the official start date was #Feb17 but events kicked off 2 days earlier.

Previous Day 19 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9

The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors in first place

Threads for Days 1-18 are in my journal

"I was born in Tunisia, I persevered in Egypt, I sacrificed myself in Libya, I have fought in Yemen&Bahrain. I am Freedom, I will not die."
- Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
New video of Soldiers Executed for Refusing to Shoot Protesters in #Libya

Click here for updated and interactive map

Military Installations

Oil Map


- Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries
- MAP of Protests across the Middle East

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

[sasha031]

1. K&R

[Catherina]

2. Tank crushes car with people inside it. The video description says this happened in Benghazi

HORRIFIC: Tank crushes car with people inside it. The video description says this happened in Benghazi. No mention of date of incident.

Video at link

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaking-zawiya-being-shelled-right-now/

[upi402]

74. The clip below that

and the little boy at the end... heartbreaking.

:banghead:

[Catherina]

3. #G troops in Zawiya turning against each other w\ arguments cuz can't recapture Zawiya

ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
Reports that Gaddafi troops in Zawiya are turning against each other and arguments are rife because they can't capture it #libya #feb17
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Their deadline is Wednesday. Why Wednesday?

[joshcryer]

4. looked 4 dates, thurs. is tibetan uprising anniv., but doubt thats y, prolly random date

world day of muslim culture is march 15 but that is a new holiday accord. to wiki

[Catherina]

6. I think #G either had a show staged for Thursday or is almost out of fuel

After losing Brega and Ras Lanouf, he needs a refinery badly.

[defendandprotect]

53. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[davepc]

7. could be a logistics issue. you run out of gas/water/bullets sooner or later if your not resupplied

just a guess

[Catherina]

9. I was just updating my post when you wrote that. I think it's a fuel problem n/t

[defendandprotect]

55. KR -- ..... Wouldn't that be something --

G "out of fuel" --

presume no pipe line goes directly from the oil fields to the compound!

Seriously, wouldn't every major base have had a pipeline to fuel?

Would be great if this were true!!

[Catherina]

17. news of fuel shortages for Gaddafi's troops, Tripoli been rationing fuel for a week+

ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
@
@medmax67 Indeed, and there are news of fuel shortages for Gaddafi's troops, hence Zawia is important
6 minutes ago


ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
They have been rationing petrol and diesel for over a week here in Tripoli. You can't buy more than 3 dinars or so (still a decent amount)
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

14. #G running out of fuel. Explains fight in #Zawiya. Ras Lanuf is out of his control. Reserves in >>

Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub
#Gaddafi running out of fuel. Explains fight in #Zawiya. Ras Lanuf is out of his control. Reserves in Kufra and Tobruq are way out of reach.
2 minutes ago

[Iterate]

22. Have there been any rolling blackouts/brownouts?

"With domestic consumption estimated around 270,000 bbl/d in 2010,"

...

Refining
According to OGJ, Libya has five domestic refineries, with a combined capacity of 378,000 bbl/d. Libya's refineries include:
1) the Ras Lanuf export refinery, completed in 1984 and located on the Gulf of Sirte, with a crude oil refining capacity of 220,000 bbl/d;
2) the Az Zawiya refinery, completed in 1974 and located in northwestern Libya, with crude processing capacity of 120,000 bbl/d;
3) the Tobruk refinery, with crude capacity of 20,000 bbl/d;
4) Sarir, a topping facility with 10,000 bbl/d of capacity; and
5) Brega, the oldest refinery in Libya, located near Tobruk with crude capacity of 8,000 bbl/d.
Libya's refining sector was impacted by UN sanctions, specifically UN Resolution 883 of November 11, 1993, which banned Libya from importing refinery equipment. Libya is seeking a comprehensive upgrade to its entire refining system, with a particular aim of increasing output of gasoline and other light products.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/Libya/Oil.html

I also saw an estimate of the still-functioning refinery at Az Zawiya that was higher than that, so I'll keep looking. Reports I've seen say that refineries, when running, are at 33-50% of capacity.

I think this is worth noodling out as best we can, because the experts who know such things are either spooks, who will not tell us, or economists, who are busy tracking crude prices and exports. And frankly, I don't think I want to wait for the historians either.

[Catherina]

25. It's hard to get an accurate picture because communications are still down

but the electricity was on and off in Benghazi for days. Yesterday they bombed the electrical plant. I'll try to pay more attention to that for you.

[Iterate]

27. I've been watching too but hadn't seen a report

other than the ones that were apparently politically motivated.

[Catherina]

5. Check it out... "cant take our freedom"

katrinaswq Katrina Qaryouti
by thisiskhaledm
Check it out... "cant take our freedom" @thisiskhaledm @lowkey youtu.be/NReDBYRZ7nY
21 minutes ago

Khaled M. feat Lowkey- "Can't Take Our Freedom"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NReDBYRZ7nY


Song for Tunisia, Egypt, Libya

[JanDutchy]

8. Revolutionary flag at Consulate Libya in The Haque (NL)

Source: ANP

08/03/11, 19:57
DEN HAAG-at the Libyan Consulate in The Hague is the three-coloured ' revolutionary ' flag. The red, black, green flag waving in the place of the full Green that Muammar Gaddafi ever introduced as official flag.
The three color, which dates from the period prior to 1969, when Gaddafi via a coup d ' état came to power, has become a symbol for the rebellion against the Libyan dictator.


The three-coloured ' revolutionary ' flag at the Libyan Consulate in the Hague.
ANP the Libyan Consulate was not reachable Tuesday to explain the presence of the old flag at the building.


The pressure on Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi is increasing now the rebels in the country have warning him waiting. As the 68-year-old dictator within 72 hours, departs in their own country, he will not be prosecuted. That has the rebels created national Libyan Council said against the Arab news channel al-Jazeera.


-----

Good day to you all!

[joshcryer]

10. +1, JanDutchy, wanted a pic of it. :)

[Catherina]

11. Picture Jan, we need a pic! Also, do you have a link for that? Hi n/t

[joshcryer]

13. its in the link!

[joshcryer]

16. sry, he 4got link, here:

http://www.trouw.nl/tr/nl/4492/Nederland/article/detail/1857268/2011/03/08/Revolutionaire-vlag-bij-consulaat-Libie.dhtml

not sure if will post

?20110308200104

[Catherina]

18. Thank you! Just got it for you

Need to remove all everything after .jpg and it works. What a beautiful sight!

[JanDutchy]

26. Thanks: a song

"I came to know love..." | Arabic nasheed + english subs


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaAYQN3kPdc

[JanDutchy]

28. You have to have a 'chopper view' :Dutch are talking on Crete on the dutch soldiers with a Libyan de

Meanwhile the Dutch are talking on Crete on the dutch soldiers with a Libyan delegation.

[Catherina]

12. Red Crescent: #G thugs have blocked some 30,000 migrant workers from fleeing into #Tunisia

IbnOmar2005 Ibn Omar
Red Crescent: #gadafi thougs have blocked some 30,000 migrant workers from fleeing into #Tunisia AP http://bit.ly/hlFgVV #libya
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

15. Obama & Cameron agree in a phone call on the need for Gaddafi to leave as fast as possible.

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya: Obama & Cameron agree in a phone call on the need for Gaddafi to leave as fast as possible. #Libya
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

19. Today in Ras Lanouf there were 9 deaths and 30 injuries on Revo side

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: 9 deaths and 30 injured in today's clashes in Ras Lanouf - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaki…
5 minutes ago


2211 Al Jazeera correspondent right now: Today in Ras Lanouf there were 9 deaths and 30 injuries from the revolutionaries’ side

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaking-zawiya-being-shelled-right-now/

[Catherina]

20. Zawiya is currently surrounded from east and west

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Zawiya is currently surrounded from east and west - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaki…
4 minutes ago

2211 Al Jazeera Live call with political activist in Zawiya who has just reported that the Gaddafi battalions are in control of the main coast highway from both sides of Az Zawiya. He also stated that they conducted an operation today to bring a large group of reinforcements from Tripoli. The caller also confirmed that the revolutionaries are in control of the city of Az Zawiya

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaking-zawiya-being-shelled-right-now/

[defendandprotect]

56. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[Catherina]

21. #Yemen: clashes at sana univ right now. live bullets being used on protesters

kasinof Laura Kasinof
by blakehounshell
clashes at sana univ right now. live bullets being used on protesters
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

23. HUGE explosion took place in Ar Rajmah

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
MUST MUST WATCH: The moment a HUGE explosion took place in Ar Rajmah - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaki…
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
Video of huge explosion in Ar Rajmah area. Flames 100s of meters in the air! - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaki…
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply


http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaking-zawiya-being-shelled-right-now/

They don't say when though. Ar Rajmah is near Benghazi.

[Catherina]

24. Many deaths in today’s clashes in #RasLanouf and #AzZawiya. Mercs more aggressive, have no mercy

Libyayalibya Libyan Kid
Many deaths in today’s clashes in #RasLanouf and #AzZawiya. #Gaddafis mercenaries are becoming more aggressive, they have no mercy. @UN
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Desertrose]

40. Didn't think they could get more ruthless...I hate to think...

Thanks for the great job you are doing Catherina. This is getting tougher to sort out- you do a great job!!

:hug:

[Catherina]

29. sources confirm Ahmed Gaddafi'dem did not defect, been operating out of Egypt 2 transfer large sums>

IbnOmar2005 Ibn Omar
from #libya facebook group: Reliable sources confirm that Ahmed Gaddafi'dem did not defect from the Gaddafi regime and has in fact been operating out of Egypt to transfer large sums of money to Syria in order to bring mercenary pilots to bomb the Libyan people. He was transferring the money under the name Mohammed Jawad in order to hide the Gaddafi money.

6 minutes ago


That story about him defecting sounded like BS. Whether this is true or not, they all need to be tracked down.

[Catherina]

30. #Zawiya shows a key weakness. #G using mostly tanks = few men & defection thru human contact

MilitantNews Stephen Morgan
#Libya #Zawiya shows a key weakness of #Gaddafi. He's using mostly tanks- Shows he has little infantry+he fears defection thru human contact
4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

31. SKY News detailed report from Tripoli right now

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
SKY News detailed report from Tripoli right now #Libya #Feb17
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

32. the reason for Al Arabiya TV's signal loss is "Libyan jamming"

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Al Arabiya signal is completely gone on Arabsat & Nilesat, anyone else?
1 hour ago


(several people lost it on the satellites)

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
Tweeps confirm Al Arabiya signal gone. Other MBC network channels also disappeared. I still have MBC Action, showing "Natural Born Killers"
56 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
I was at Al Arabiya's head office in Dubai last night at exactly this time (24 hours ago to the minute). I hope it's just a technical glitch
55 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
When I was at Al Arabiya's waiting room a Libyan opposition figure was waiting to go on TV he told there were many threats to the TV channel
51 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


SultanAlQassemi Sultan Al Qassemi
I was just told that the reason for Al Arabiya TV's signal loss is "Libyan jamming"
2 minutes ago

[Catherina]

33. Gaddafi arrived. All smiles. Now talking to Turkish tv

jrug Jonathan Rugman
Gaddafi arrived. All smiles. Now talking to Turkish tv
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

35. #G just arrived at the hotel after waiting 7 hours. Little security as he entered.

ianinegypt Ian Lee
Gaddafi just arrived at the hotel after waiting 7 hours. Little security as he entered. #Libya
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

36. 100's reporter are waiting. Unclear if he will hold news conference

HalaGorani Hala Gorani
Moammar Gadhafi appears at hotel where 100's reporter are waiting. Unclear if he will hold news conference. #Libya
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[roamer65]

43. I wanna see Gadhafi dead.

[CommonSensePLZ]

47. ...He can smile? /nt

[Iterate]

34. Transliteration of Libyan place names

Transliteration of Libyan place names
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration_of_Libyan_placenames

List of cities in Libya -100 largest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_Libya

These have been updated within the past few days and can be a good resource for sorting out place name variants.

[Catherina]

37. Gaddafi entered the hotel fist pumping (7 hrs late) He's meeting Turkish and French TV.

ianinegypt Ian Lee
Gaddafi entered the hotel fist pumping. He's meeting Turkish and French TV. #Libya
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply



richardengelnbc richard engel
#libya.. A mob when qaddafi finally arrived! 7hrs late
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply


richardengelnbc richard engel
#libya. He pulled up to hotel, got out. Almost no security, smiling
2 minutes ago

[Catherina]

38. Qaddafi doing intv with turkish tv, didn't speak to reporters

richardengelnbc richard engel
#libya.. Qaddafi doing intv with turkish tv, didn't speak to reporters
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

39. Gaddafi still talking behind a yellow curtain while his white BMW awaits

jrug Jonathan Rugman
Gaddafi still talking behind a yellow curtain while his white BMW awaits
3 minutes ago

[Iterate]

41. Libya Energy Data, Statistics and Analysis - Oil, Gas, Electricity ...

Two sources I'll pass on to start with

Libya Energy Data, Statistics and Analysis - Oil, Gas, Electricity ...
http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/Libya/Oil.html
www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/libya/pdf.pdf

Facts on Libya: oil and gas (IEA 21 February 2011) Oil
www.iea.org/files/facts_libya.pdf

First, I took the N-S line at Sirte to divide the population into areas where the revos or regime have, generally speaking, freedom of movement. (Don't read too much into that.) That gives a way of splitting the percentage of population and oil consumption prior to the revolution.

The 2010 consumption was about 270,000 b/d, so with about a 25%/75% E-W split in population, and looking at the maximum realistic output next week, that leaves the east producing about 45% of the previous level with Tobruk and a soon-to-be-repaired Brega. The regime, if they can get Az Zawiya up to 50% production (doubtful), will produce only about 30% of 2010 production for that population. I suspect they've been living off of local storage for the past two weeks, but nowhere can I find, so far anyway, a number that describes that amount.

Those are rough numbers and still somewhat suspect, but at least it gives a sort of order-of-magnitude sketch. FYI, much of that oil goes into electrical generation, and electricity is water.

[hardcover]

42. Egyptian men harassed the women in Tahrir Square Women's Day march

I am so angry. this is so freaking unfair.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/08/rival-protesters-clash-women-tahrir :grr:

[joshcryer]

48. Going to take a long time for cultural reforms, at least a generation. Hell, it took the US 200 yrs

My only solace is that these assholes aren't representative of the Egyptians as a whole.

[hardcover]

52. I am a woman and I am so angry

Yes I expected it to take time, but this betrayal is more than I can excuse. Egyptian men and women protested side by side for democracy and now those same men turned on those same women. I am almost sorry that I put my heart into the Egyptian plight. I don't give a damn about the men anymore, they want democracy for themselves, but not for their wives sisters and daughters. doesn't that make them as bad as the regime they just ousted?

[defendandprotect]

58. As long as they have organized patriarchal religion, they will have suppression of females....

And, of course, as we see here in America. the Fundies are at times as

Medieval as some of the Taliban!

A nation like ours -- if it were truly dedicated to democracy and equality for all --

could turn this around very quickly if they wanted to.

Obviously, discrimination and exploitation of women still pays off for patriarchy!!

And sexual abuse is one of the primary ways still of conducting this war on females!!

[pinboy3niner]

44. Oh Allah have mercy on #Libya Oh Allah protect the innocent people...

jeejia Oh Allah have mercy on #Libya Oh Allah protect the innocent people struggling in Your cause. Oh Allah we seek Your mercy #feb17 #Tripoli
9 minutes ago via web
Retweeted by tyelecologicarq and 5 others

[pinboy3niner]

45. "Zawiyah is being wiped off the face of the earth"; regime prevents journos from going there

From The Guardian's News Blog:

7.14pm:

The BBC's Wyne Davies in Tripoli says that the regime is making it "practically impossible" for journalists there to get out and reach Zawiyah.

However, he said that he had been in contact with trustworthy eye-witnesses in Zawiyah who corroborated reports that the town that the town has been under a heavy bombardment.

"Zawiyah is being wiped off the face of the earth," he quoted one man as saying.


7.22pm:

Some more now on how the international media is being prevented from reporting on events in Zawiyah (See 6.28pm), about 30 miles west of Tripoli.

According to the International News Safety Institute, a not-for-profit charity, several journalists who gave their minders the slip and attempted to get into the town were detained.

Journalists with several media organisations, including Reuters and the BBC, were detained by security forces, reported Reuters,

All have since been released. It appeared they were detained for travelling outside the capital without official permission and failing to take officials with them.

"Three people from the BBC in Tripoli were held overnight. They have since been released," the BBC said.


7.32pm:

The International News Safety Institute adds that the situation for news crews in Libya is becoming increasingly precarious and there strong sense that antipathy towards foreign journalists is mounting.

It said that at least one journalist had been beaten, while a hotel in Benghazi where a number of journalists are staying is believed to have been attacked by a grenade, although there were no reported injuries.

The charity also makes an apparent reference to the botched mission to eastern Libya by an SAS and MI6 team towards the end of this segment from a statement issued online:

The Journalists staying in the Hotel Ouzo, in Libya's second city, heard gunfire -- though it is not clear if this was from a passing vehicle -- and one (possibly two) explosion(s) during the night.

Security around the hotel has been increased and in the past hour there have been reports that a man, suspected by rebels of being a spy, was marched out of the hotel and later released after rebels said they made a mistake.

The apparent increase in antipathy towards western media may have been exacerbated by British military activity in Benghazi over the past 48 hours. It is clear there are a lot of edgy people with guns in Libya and to this end journalists should exercise extreme caution -- especially if they deliberately seek to operate without their government minders.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/08/arab-and-middle-east-protests-libya

[pinboy3niner]

46. Zawiyah "...a disturbing escalation in the developing civil war in Libya"

From The Guardian's News Blog:

6.28pm:

As the Gaddafi regime deploys tanks and hundreds of troops in all-out effort to take the town of Zawiyah, my colleague Peter Beaumont reports from nearby Tripoli on an escalation in the Libyan conflict:

If it is confirmed, the defeat of opposition forces in Zawiyah, just 30 miles from Tripoli – already claimed twice by the regime in recent days – would mark a significant psychological moment for Gaddafi.

Although most sources were suggesting the rebellion in Zawiyah had been crushed, a resident named Ibrahim claimed combat was continuing.

The Gaddafi regime has cut all mobile and landline communications with the town and accounts of today's fighting came from witnesses who had driven out of the combat area and one who had climbed on a roof to find a phone signal.

Residents described a hail of bullets, with women and children being killed and families trapped within their homes.

The violence of this assault marks a disturbing escalation in the developing civil war in Libya, suggesting that the regime has now decided to pursue a no-holds barred strategy to crush the rebellion, despite the growing threats of international action.

Witnesses in Zawiyah said many buildings, including mosques, had been destroyed and rebel forces had used loudhailers to call on residents to help defend positions in the town centre.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/08/arab-and-middle-east-protests-libya

[joshcryer]

49. :(

[pinboy3niner]

50. "Who's crazy? Him or us?"

From AJE Libya Live Blog - March 9:


3:20am < (8:20 PM EST Tuesday, March 8) >

Libyan leader, Muammar Gaddafi, made another fleeting appearance around at a hotel where more than 100 foreign journalists had waited for hours. Just when they thought he would speak to them, his handlers took him to a private room in the hotel for an interview with a Turkish television.

The journalists thought he would make a statement, or, as Al Arabiya television predicted, make one of his long, rumbling speeches. Yet when Gaddafi sneaked out of a side door, many, including NBC’s Richard Engel, took the social networking site Twitter to express their disappointment.

Another reporter said: "We waited all day to watch Gaddafi walk through a lobby. Who's crazy? Him or us?


http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-9

[joshcryer]

57. Heh, so true.

[pinboy3niner]

51. Libya Deputy Foreign Minister: No-fly zone would be 'declaration of war' against Libya

Libyan Dep FM says no fly zone would be declaration of war against #Libya, demands UN accept Libya’s new amb.
about 2 hours ago

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nic Robertson
Senior International Correspondent
CNN

[pinboy3niner]

54. CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 5:45 AM WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9

Libya time = EST +7 hours, PST +10 hours.

[defendandprotect]

59. United Libya -- Libya United --

[pinboy3niner]

60. NYT: Opposition in Libya Struggles to Form a United Front

Opposition in Libya Struggles to Form a United Front

By ANTHONY SHADID and KAREEM FAHIM
Published: March 8, 2011

BENGHAZI, Libya — In less than three weeks, an inchoate opposition in Libya, one of the world’s most isolated countries, has cobbled together the semblance of a transitional government, fielded a ragtag rebel army and portrayed itself to the West and Libyans as an alternative to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi’s four decades of freakish rule.

...


Meanwhile, the opposition council’s leaders contradicted one another publicly. The opposition’s calls for foreign aid have amplified divisions over intervention. And provisional leaders warn that a humanitarian crisis may loom as people’s needs overwhelm fledgling local governments.

...


“We’ve found ourselves in a vacuum,” Mustafa Gheriani, an acting spokesman for the provisional leadership, said Tuesday in Benghazi, the rebel capital. “Instead of worrying about establishing a transitional government, all we worry about are the needs — security, what people require, where the uprising is going. Things are moving too fast.”

...


After government authority collapsed in much of eastern Libya, residents set up what they call local councils of varying numbers of representatives — three in Darnah, six in Bayda. Theoretically, each is supposed to send a representative to Benghazi, where the opposition has set up a group called the Provisional Transitional National Council of Libya, a kind of state in waiting. Composed of 30 representatives, it is led by Mustafa Abdel-Jalil, a former justice minister and perhaps the sole figure who enjoys national support.



David D. Kirkpatrick contributed reporting from Tripoli, Libya, and Nada Bakri from Beirut, Lebanon.



http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/world/africa/09rebels.html?ref=world

[pinboy3niner]

61. Hugo Chávez is left without any stadium in Libya

The stadium has been renamed by the opposition. The story posted by naaman fletcher in GD reveals the new name:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x590868

[pinboy3niner]

62. Light a candle for #Libya. 1 million people need prayers.

Light a candle for #Libya. 1 million people need prayers.
less than 20 seconds ago via Twitter for iPhone

[pinboy3niner]

63. New security report: Libyan rebels' weapons deficit

08 March 2011 - - IISS Experts' Commentary - Libyan rebels' weapons deficit

By Gary Li, Research Assistant and Project Coordinator, Defence and Military Analysis Programme


Fighting in Libya between pro- and anti-Gadhafi forces has preoccupied the world's media for the past few weeks. A completely clear picture of the relative balance of forces has not been available. However, image intelligence (IMINT) analysis of Libyan military bases can shed some light on the current situation and offer indicators as to what might follow.

With much of Libya desert, the armed forces have perhaps unsurprisingly been based around urban population centres, where the necessary logistical infrastructure exists to support their bases. The main concentrations of forces are around Tripoli, Misratah, Sirte, Benghazi and Tobruk. The latter two cities and Misratah have already fallen to anti-Gadhafi rebels, while there is fighting along the country's northern coastline.

From satellite imagery, the differences between the military units stationed in the east of the country, which has traditionally been anti-Tripoli, and those in the west are stark. Apart from a few mechanised units in Benghazi and Tobruk, and a few armoured battalions near Albayda, rebel-controlled areas lack any substantial hardware with which to take on the pro-Gadhafi stronghold of Tripoli.

By comparison, a ring of forces is stationed in the south-eastern suburbs of Tripoli, with a large armoured formation of possibly brigade strength 50 kilometres south of the city. The pro-Gadhafi regions are also well garrisoned with artillery, anti-aircraft and mechanised formations.


Much more here:
http://www.iiss.org/whats-new/iiss-experts-commentary/libyan-rebels-weapons-deficit/

[pinboy3niner]

64. NYT has an interactive map of battles in Libya

You can see developments day-by-day, from the beginning to date (accompanied by brief text updates on the fighting in Libya's cities) here:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/02/25/world/middleeast/map-of-how-the-protests-unfolded-in-libya.html?ref=middleeast

[pinboy3niner]

65. CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 8:05 AM WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9

Libya time = EST +7 hours, PST +10 hours.

[JanDutchy]

66. Musik

.Welcome to ThisisKhaledM.com, where you can find all the latest updates and information on Khaled M!

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Khaled M. feat Lowkey – “Can’t Take Our Freedom”

Khaled M speaks about the Khalas Mixtape Volume 1: Mish B3eed mixtape which was released by Enough Gaddafi. The mixtape is a compilation of various artists in North Africa mainly speaking about the recent uprisings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NReDBYRZ7nY&feature=player_embedded

[pinboy3niner]

67. Good aftenoon, Jan!

Thanks for the video link--that's pretty powerful. :thumbsup:

[JanDutchy]

69. Good morning pinboy3nine

Try this: http://trendsmap.com

[JanDutchy]

68. Kadhafi calls on West to assist him in his war on radical jihadist groups

Last update: Wednesday 9 March 2011 7: 44 am EST alkahrhtalikat:
called Colonel Muammar Gaddafi West to provide assistance to his country, which she said faces a "jihadi groups came from Afghanistan and Algeria".
The word registered for kadhafi meeting a number of tribes alzntan Libyan television said, describing which members of the national transition Council founded by recent rebel in Benghazi "traitors" and "controlled" rule.
It said Gadhafi, who is facing a popular revolution against the regime since 17 February that what is currently in the country, "a southern phenomenon, led by militants from Algeria/Afghanistan border and others, astadwa youth" helpless "command.

The West, which provides support to several States in the "war on terrorism", to provide support to country-jihadi groups "volunteered" he-like the support of several States such as Afghanistan, Algeria and Nigeria to eradicate armed groups.
In another of his incision--attendees repeating slogans, a Transitional Council criticized the kadhafi Foundation in Benghazi and describe its traitors.
The beautiful city of Benghazi, "becoming" Fakir controlled destruction and called on Libyans in Benghazi to the uprising of what he termed "traitors", and said that "there are people with sisavi calculated" miscreants.

Kadhafi a letter directed to parents in Libya, inviting them to control their behavior, and reject their recruitment.


He is currently in the country is "turn green with envy because the prosperity and quality of living in Libya."
In his speech that a "plot" intended primarily to Western colonization and enslavement of the people, his control of the wealth of oil.

http://www.shorouknews.com/ContentData.aspx?ID=404640

[pinboy3niner]

70. Jan, a suggestion...

...that you space out paragraphs. A large block of text is difficult to read, and many people won't bother.

It's much more readable and accessible if you space out the grafs.

:hi:

[JanDutchy]

73. Thanks: origin was arab

[pinboy3niner]

71. Gaddafi counter-attacks, humanitarian fears grow

RT http://is.gd/4mJrO2 #lost #green
half a minute ago via Look43thOption

[JanDutchy]

72. Libya rebel leaders visit EU, call for recognition and no-fly zone

Former Belgian Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt, who invited Mahmud Gebril and Ali al-Essawi to Brussels on Tuesday

read more: http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20110308-lybia-rebel-l..

[pinboy3niner]

75. AJE just now: Stockpile of chem wpns at Ras Lanuf cd kill ppl w/in 15 miles if hit

From AJE Livestream:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

[Ghost Dog]

78. Oh, shit. UN/NATO needs to secure that. n/t

[pinboy3niner]

80. Correction: Latest report indicates 15 sq, kilometers wd be affected

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-

[pinboy3niner]

76. CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 10:47 AM WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9

Libya time = EST +7 hours, PST +10 hours.

[pinboy3niner]

77. Updates from AJE:

10:14am

President Barack Obama's senior advisers are meeting today to outline possible steps that could be used to pressure Gaddafi to halt the violence against his people and give up power. Obama is facing the sternest test yet of his philosophy of humanitarian intervention, which he has described as an imperative to prevent atrocities against civilians. But Gaddafi's brutal suppression of protests and crackdown on opponents to his 42-year rule may fall short of Obama's criteria for military action.


:01am

Libya Watch is closely monitoring the continuous human rights abuses against the people of Libya. These abuses have been well documented and will be presented to the appropriate authorities, including the ICC and the world media in due course.

The human rights group also confirmed in a press release that Mohammed Allakey who is the assistant secretary general of the Union of Arab Lawyers and the chairman of assembly of Libyan Human Rights of the Gaddafi Foundation has resigned from his post and has joined the revolution,

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-

[pinboy3niner]

79. Libya Watch monitoring human rights abuses

From AJE Libya Live Blog - March 9

9:01am

Libya Watch is closely monitoring the continuous human rights abuses against the people of Libya. These abuses have been well documented and will be presented to the appropriate authorities, including the ICC and the world media in due course.

The human rights group also confirmed in a press release that Mohammed Allakey who is the assistant secretary general of the Union of Arab Lawyers and the chairman of assembly of Libyan Human Rights of the Gaddafi Foundation has resigned from his post and has joined the revolution,



http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-

[pinboy3niner]

81. How out of touch with reality is Gaddafi?

From AJE Libya Live Blog - March 9:

11:15am

Gaddafi said Libyans will fight if a no-fly zone is imposed by Western nations and how imposing one would show their real intention is to seize the country's oil.

Gaddafi made his remarks during an interview that was conducted on Tuesday night but aired on Wednesday by Turkey's state-run TRT Turk television.

The Libyan leader was responding to US and British plans for a response to Libya and claimed that such a move would lead Libyans to understand the foreigners' aims to seize oil and take their freedoms away.

He said if that happens "Libyans will take up arms and fight.''

LOL! WHAT freedoms? Libyans are rising up now FOR their freedoms. They already HAVE taken up arms and they already ARE fighting--against Gaddafi.



http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-

[pinboy3niner]

82. CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 1:30 PM WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9

Libya time = EST +7 hours, PST +10 hours.

[Waiting For Everyman]

83. three private jets said to belong to Gaddafi have reportedly taken off

fieldproducer Neal Mann
Al Jazeera: three private jets said to belong to Gaddafi have reportedly taken off from a military stip outside Tripoli #libya
48 minutes ago

FMCNL FMC the Netherlands
BREAKING BREAKING: 3 Libyan Government airplanes air borne 5A-DCN, 5A-UAA and 5A-UAC heading for Cairo, Athens and Vienna #Libya #Gadhafi
1 hour ago

FMCNL FMC the Netherlands
Destinations of the 3 Libyan Government planes not confirmed here, have a sharp look out world! http://goo.gl/Kfe8l #Libya #Gadhafi
28 minutes ago

[pinboy3niner]

84. I hope that means Gaddafi is bailing

Anything to end the bloodshed..

[Waiting For Everyman]

85. More info...

Sherine T Sherine Tadros
AP; Head of Libya's logistics and supply authority,Gen Abdul-Rahman al-Zawi, arrived in cairo carrying a message from #Gaddafi #libya #egypt
8 minutes ago

Sherine is an Al Jazeera reporter.

[pinboy3niner]

90. One confirmed landed at military airstrip in Cairo

Per AJE.

[pinboy3niner]

86. Food convoy enters Libya, enroute to Benghazi

From AJE's Libya Live Blog - March 9

1:59pm

A convoy of trucks from the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) has entered Libya and is due to arrive in the eastern port city of Benghazi today.

WFP is mobilising food for the hungry as part of a US$39.2 million emergency operation designed to provide food assistance to more than one million people in Libya, Egypt and Tunisia over a three-month period.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-9

[JanDutchy]

87. Malta's dilemma;s with AWAC, as EU-member, but not NATO-memberbya -

a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epv01JexPzs&feature=player_embedded#at=37

[JanDutchy]

88. EU Considering Sending Humanitarian Military Mission to Libya

[pinboy3niner]

89. BREAKING, AJE: Airstrikes on Ras Lanuf NOW

On-air report.

[pinboy3niner]

91. Wake up, Catharina

Time to make the doughnuts. :)

[pinboy3niner]

92. CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 3:35 PM WEDNESDAY, MARCH 9

Libya time = EST +7 hours, PST +10 hours.

[Catherina]

93. Day 21, Part 1 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x592403