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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:39 PM
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Poll question: Will GOP union busting finally drive ''Reagan Democrats'' back to the Democratic Party?
Republicans peeled a lot of blue collar white union members starting in the 80s with their guns, god, & gays shtick, and somehow those workers didn't notice which party was working hardest to outsource whole industries to Third World countries (admittedly, some Democrats made it a little hard to tell which party was more committed to screwing workers).

But will this blatant union busting in Wisconsin, Ohio, and elsewhere drive them back to the Democratic Party?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:47 PM
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1. Walker is making the case for them to become Democrats again.
Walker is the gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats :)

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:47 PM
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2. will they accept it or drop kick it?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:48 PM
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3. when have they NOT folded with a winning hand in the last decade or so?
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:49 PM
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4. The GOP is thrashing.
If the GOP keeps putting forward the kind of insane legislation that they've put forward for the last 3 months. It is over.

The only people that they can get to vote reliably for the GOP, is the insane right wing base. But when they do NOTHING but cater to the insane, they will alienate everyone else.
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:01 PM
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9. I believe that to be so
If this is the decisive battle they've longed for, they're going to be very unpleasantly surprised at how few in numbers the nutjob base really is. They trusted their own corporate media as an accurate metric when they should have just employed it only as a weapon.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake"
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:12 PM
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12. Agree ... those who pay little attention will find it hard not to hear ...
the "crazy" as they continue to get louder.

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:04 PM
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10. I can't believe they made any gains after 2006, but they have--mainly because Dems refuse to offer
a real alternative beyond batshit crazy ideas only explained by seemingly sane people.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:05 PM
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11. it's kind of like we have a choice between Charles Manson and a guy who can say the same things and
make it sound reasonable and compassionate.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:49 PM
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5. perhaps no
see citizens united.

hope i am totally, completely wrong.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:49 PM
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6. No the Dems need to move further to the right (sarcasm).
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Populist_Prole Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:58 PM
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7. I chose choice #1 because I really believe it to be so
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 06:03 PM by Populist_Prole
So long as said "Reagan Democrats" are not religious fundamentalists. You're never going to reach them.

Regarding the Wisconsin thing, a few I know, who I believe are going to crack ( they are peripherally informed by talking heads...they don't read and follow up ), first tried to spout the corporate media talking points but I could tell they didn't really believe it. It sounded more like they just tried to sound like they were in the know. I pressed them ( very politely, but authoritatively ) on the reality and they agreed with me. I didn't respond with any "gotcha" retorts but tried to put them in those people's positions. I really do believe it was an epiphany of sorts because I saw an honest introspection on their part: Not because it reversed strongly held beliefs, but because it made them actually think the issue through the haze of boiler plate apathy.

I hope they do follow up and vote correctly, but I don't want to overplay my hand and hound them by coming across as a pushy zealot. I think they'll be more comfortable if it seems like they figured it out on their own.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:01 PM
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8. I chose choice #1 too. n/t
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:12 PM
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13. Maybe. But I would say right now that before they let them go
they will do an all out blitz for the "guns, god and gays" morons. Look for some kind of inititive on the ballots in all fifty states.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:19 PM
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14. It won't do much if the Democrats turn around and union bust. The WI unelected Dems have done more
for the Democratic Party than any elected Democrat in the past 20 years.
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