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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:05 PM
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Nevada rescuers abandon rescue of man trapped in mine. VIdeo shows man is still breathing.
What a nightmare for the family of a man fallen into an abandoned mine. Rescuers have deemed that attempts to free the man are too dangerous. If they can't rescue him wouldn't it be better to gas him before he regains consciousness?

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The man was working in the area with a geothermal drilling crew and visited the shaft with two friends while off duty.

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Between 265,000 and 310,000 abandoned mine shafts and openings are scattered across Nevada. Federal and state agencies have an ongoing advertising campaign urging the public to stay away from them.

Around 50,000 of them have been identified as the most hazardous, but the shaft where the man fell was not among them, Ms Worley said.

She said: 'People's curiosity sometimes gets the best of them.




Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363255/Rescuers-attempts-save-man-fell-190ft-abandoned-shaft--despite-video-showing-breathing.html#ixzz1FkJmQ4hN











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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:14 PM
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1. This is the first I've heard of this tragedy at all!
Why isn't the American media all over this? Are they seriously just going to let him die down there, when he's obviously moving his hands and breathing?
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:21 PM
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2. It's absolutely shocking that the media isn't all over this. I am shocked that you
are the first to comment and that there was only 1 rec after 50 views and no kicks.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:24 PM
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4. I see important news go down all the time
I think it really has more to do with the time the article is posted (users on the site) vs the importantness of the issue.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:27 PM
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5. Is it deemed not important because it is not being covered by MSM?
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:33 PM
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9. I really don't know.
However it is important. The notion that in America we can just let a man lay in agony until death and then say "well, lets call it a day boys" is sick. I'm sure the media isn't covering it because they don't want us to see how disposable we are.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:37 PM
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11. It's worse than dogs are treated. I'm sure if it was a dog it'd be put out
of its misery.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:38 PM
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16. This was on M$NBComcast this morning
I was really surprised that they just abandoned the man.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:26 PM
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24. I was hoping we hadn't heard about it because it wasn't true
Another source makes that less likely.
It's sick and crazy. It isn't like he dug this shaft and jumped in it

265,000 to 310,000 abandoned mine shafts and openings across Nevada? And they handle it by warnings to stay away? Good advice but not enough. These are not some natural occurrence. Someone dug them to profit from. Is there a reason, besides cost, that they aren't being covered or filled?

It would be one thing if he'd died in the fall and they couldn't recover the body... but abandon a living person?
What are they saying? "Oh well, it's just a person. We have plenty of them"
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:23 PM
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28. We cant seem to do shit in this country, can we? Look at those trapped mineworkers in Chile or China
They can't even try to save this guy.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 06:05 PM
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31. They did try...
read the article.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:23 PM
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3. K and R
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:30 PM
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6. Not to be obvious or anything, but if the guy were a koch family member what would happen then
?
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:32 PM
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8. Exactly. I'd like to know if budget constraints play a part in the decision.
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raouldukelives Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:43 PM
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17. I'm sure it does
They dollar cost averaged it out and figured he was worth a lot less than the costs to extract him. I wonder if he has been fired yet for not showing up for his shift?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 10:47 PM
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34. You've got to be kidding n/t
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:32 PM
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7. K&R
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:34 PM
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10. Unimaginable horror ...
:(
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:41 PM
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12. She said: "People's curiosity sometimes gets the best of them."
So it's his tough luck? WTH kind of people ARE we???




This is just beyond words!
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:50 PM
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13. CNN had quick blurb about this
Just about a half hour ago. That was the first I heard about it.

I can't wrap my brain around NOT trying to save him. I'm speechless and sickened. That poor guy and HIS FAMILY :cry:
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 12:56 PM
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14. This is so unreported meanwhile what don't we know about Sheen's fall.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:34 PM
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15. Fox mentioned it, too.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:48 PM
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18. All I know is if it were my loved one
They'd have to lock me up in order to keep me from trying to reach him myself.

And now back to you. What's the LATEST on Charlie Sheen?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 01:49 PM
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19. Cue DU's...
shoot-first, ask-questions-later brigade.

Tell me, why did you leave this part of the article out of what you excerpted?

JoLynn Worley, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, said: 'The mine is so unstable that walls were crumbling and rocks were hitting rescuers on the head when they tried to reach him.


The situation sucks, but if you left that context out to make the authorities seem callous, that sucks even more.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:06 PM
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20. Look in the mirror , bud.
Quote from OP. "Rescuers have deemed that attempts to free the man are too dangerous."
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:12 PM
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21. But you left out the other context...
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 02:13 PM by SDuderstadt
just including only that statement makes them sound like they don't really care.

Very misleading OP. The question is whether it was intentional. As far as your "look in the mirror" deflection, point to anything I left out, especially since it wasn't my O.P., dude.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:31 PM
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25. Not misleading to me. They said it was too unsafe, figured
it was something like what you added

But that is not enough to make this acceptable, not if you imagine someone you love in there.
I do not have an answer, I don't know what they can do. But if they are going to leave hundreds of thousands of shafts open across the state they darn well should have answers ready or get rid of the made for profit openings
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:45 PM
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26. The shaft is unstable and...
the walls are crumbling, meaning the shaft could collapse. The victim is unconscious, meaning he cannot aid his own rescue; they cannot lower any sort of rescue harness to him. Does anyone here understand what getting hit in the head by a sizable rock falling 75, 150 or nearly 200 feet can do even if you're wearing a helmet.

As I said before, the situation really, really sucks.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:16 PM
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22. So others may live... this is not just a saying for the PJs
sorry boys you have given up on your duty.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 02:20 PM
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23. Not familiar with the term PJs.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:25 PM
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29. Presumably a motto of search-and-rescue team.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:39 PM
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32. Para-jumpers, premiere USAF team
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:21 PM
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27. the man has died
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 05:35 PM
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30. first I have heard of this story also. horrible for the man and family
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 08:42 PM
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33. And yet the Relig Right worry more about a blob of goo than this guy...
Pro-Life my ass
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catchnrelease Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:05 PM
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35. Comment from his family member
Edited on Sat Mar-05-11 11:08 PM by catchnrelease
This comment was posted by someone that claims to be his family member, in reply to an article on the CNN website. There is no way to verify if this person is who they say they are, but for what it's worth.......

DennisMary

This is my nephew. The real story is that he was still alive Thursday night, but just barely. The rescue workers did everything they could to find him. By this morning, there were no signs of life, and the conditions are far too dangerous to risk someone else's life to retrieve his body. The shaft is 400 feet deep; he landed on a ledge about 187 feet down. The ledge is so fragile that if another person were to step on it, it would probably crumble and they would both fall to the bottom. And although the idea of a long rope with a loop is a good idea, his injuries were so severe that they determined that if they had lifted him vertically, his blood pressure would have gone so high, it would have killed him. So regardless of the assumptions and allegations made here, the rescuers made EVERY effort to get him out alive, but he was just too severely injured and it was just too late. We are very grateful for the efforts of the rescuers and the sheriff's department.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-11 11:14 PM
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36. Enough said
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-06-11 02:51 AM
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37. I hope this is enough to...
mollify DU's shoot-first, ask-questions-later brigade.
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