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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:31 AM
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How is the DC Democrats' silence a good thing if we lose the fight in Ohio?
I understand the rationale for staying out of it when the protests first started. The protestors were doing fine without President Obama or any other national Democrats distracting from, and potentially dividing workers on the issues.

But what if this bill in Ohio passes that makes it illegal to strike? Isn't now the time to start pulling out all the stops?

Someone please prove my worries wrong on this!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:34 AM
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1. It is NEVER a bad time for DEMOCRATS to stand up for LABOR. Anyone that argues otherwise has
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 11:35 AM by Vincardog
questionable motives. For example maybe they think it would be easier to side with CAPITAL against labor.
Fuck that. That is why we have the GOP.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:40 AM
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2. I can't prove your worries wrong on this.
You are right, now is the time to pull out all the stops and for our Democratic leaders to be loud and forceful.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:45 AM
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3. Either that or they need to remove the L and for that matter the F in DFL.
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haikugal Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:51 AM
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4. I don't know what the Democratic Party stands for anymore,,,
I think the corruption is rampant on both sides. Why aren't the Democrats or our President speaking out in support of workers rights and public ownership?
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 02:41 PM
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16. Seems something is very very wrong IMHO.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:54 AM
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5. Because Only the Rich Matter, See....What's Happening with Charlie Sheen?
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 11:54 AM
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6. Some Are
Sherrod Brown has been vocal in his support for the protestors (although maybe he doesn't count since he's an Ohio Senator). Some others have as well. Jesse Jackson showed up in Columbus last week.

I would appreciate more vocal support from the top as well, but you can't say that NOBODY has been speaking up nationally.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:19 PM
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12. That's true, good points.
I would love to see more--I don't know if the handful who have spoken out are getting through. Not entirely their fault, but are they really trying?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:01 PM
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7. There really aren't any Democrats any longer.
They have gone by the wayside.. Yes there are people with a D after their name but when it comes to supporting real core Democratic principles they are no where to be seen or heard..Remember with this current batch of "Democrats" "Everything is Negotiable...Nothing is worth standing firm on.."EVERYTHING is Negotiable..
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:06 PM
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9. Nonsense. There's nothing new about compromise.
It's what elections are all about.... obtaining coalitions of groups/people to vote elected officials in.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:14 PM
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11. There are some things in life you just don't compromise on..
:shrug:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:05 PM
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8. Mostly what we get from the media
are the Republican talking heads. When we do not hear any Democrats it is because the media have been bought. I have basically stopped watching the "news" but this morning on MSNBC a "journalist" --Ruth Marcus, I think she is a WaPo writer-- was on Chuckie Toad and was interviewed. She had the line that we don't hear from Obama much. He is "holding back". She ruined her own spot by coming off whiney and evidently had not rehearsed well enough. And even on this blog there are some who are ready and willing to jump all over our president if he doesn't jump the way we want him to at this minute.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:10 PM
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10. The abandoned us in '04 as well. It's up to us. I'm waiting to hit the streets w petitions
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 12:11 PM by mod mom
They (the party elite) have proven time (election reform, REAL health care reform, justice about Wall Street) and time again that they to serve corporate interest.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:36 PM
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13. I think it would be detrimental to the movement for the politicians to make an appearance in Madison
or anywhere else. Once the politicians are on the scene they become the story and the real story is relegated to background noise. The demonstrators need to keep the pressure on until the national political leadership does the right thing and introduces legislation to repeal Taft-Hartley while leaving the Wagner Act intact. The quickest way to stall a movement is for the politicians to get involved in a direct way. To hell with them anyway. It was their abandonment of the working class that has lead to the situation in Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, etc.
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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 02:25 PM
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15. Okay, why isn't the national leadership doing the right thing and working on Taft-Hartley?
What happens when the real story gets relegated to background noise anyway? If this fight is as important as I'm lead to believe, then what are we waiting for?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 12:38 PM
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14. Haven't you figured this one out yet?
Anything DC Democrats touch turns to shit. Surely being able to turn historic gains into historic losses in the space of a single election is not a desirable prequalification for leadership.
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