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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 07:25 PM
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Gaddafi says Libya could be 'another Vietnam'
By Catrina Stewart and Kim Sengupta

Thursday, 3 March 2011

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/gaddafi-says-libya-could-be-another-vietnam-2230653.html

Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has promised "another Vietnam" if foreign powers answer a plea by Libyan dissidents for military intervention.

The rebels have called on the UN to strike the strongholds of foreign mercenaries, the mainly African fighters flown in to bolster Colonel Gaddafi's army, as pro-regime forces launched a dawn offensive to take back parts of the country's east.

The urgent appeal came as US President Barack Obama authorised the first official contact with the opposition leadership in Libya, according to diplomatic sources.

The President asked his officials to make the move after Human Rights Watch, the civil liberties and humanitarian lobbying organisation, asked for his help in tackling the escalating problem of refugees and deprivation in the country. The US has started to move warships towards the Libyan coast via the Suez Canal, claiming they are expected to deliver humanitarian aid but has not ruled out military intervention.
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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 07:29 PM
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1. Fucking psychopath.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 07:35 PM
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2. Honestly, isn't it time for the CIA to send out a sniper and just get rid of him?
I mean, really?
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-11 07:36 PM
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3. It is possible.
But many things are possible. The existing Libyan state lacks the deep and wide popular support the NLF had in South Vietnam, though it does have some. I suppose the lesson from Iraq is that you better have the means to make your enemy pay a higher price than they're willing to pay, if you want to drive them out.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 10:40 AM
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4. Not enough vegetation for that, and with a CIA supported organization called NFSL inside Libya ?
Edited on Thu Mar-03-11 10:41 AM by jakeXT
Mar 26, 1996 by rmcgehee
A New Successful Covert Operation

Reuters news reports yesterday state that unrest in the Jabal Akhdar
mountains of Eastern Libya is caused by armed rebels who may have
joined escaped prisoners in an uprising against the government.

This is an operation to overthrow Gaddafi led by Col. Khalifa Haftar,
of a contra-style group based in the United States called the Libyan
National Army. The army is the military wing of the Salvation Front for
the Liberation of Libya.

It is obvious that the CIA is behind this group and indicates
a new "awakening" for the CIA now that it has been cleared
and re-energized by all the various official exonerations; and
led by the new Director Deutch who pushes for more covert operations.
With "Mr. Intervention," Richard Haass of the Council on Foreign
Relations advising the government on intervening via mililtary and
covert operations toward China and probably also Libya and the rest
of the world, we can expect a number of additional "successful"
CIA covert operations similar to that of Vietnam, Central America and
Afghanistan.

http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/03/Test-CIA/LIBYA



2. Is the National Front for the Salvation of Libya really "a leading element in the resistance"? How do we know? Ian Black, for instance, observes: "Exiled groups such as the National Front for the Salvation of Libya are thought to enjoy little support among the country's 6.5 million people." To be sure, much of the media are not only heavily relying on "information" from the NFSL but also presenting its leading members as credible alternative leaders as well as political experts, but that is all the more reasons to be skeptical. Recall the efforts to spin the Egyptian revolution first and foremost as a Facebook revolution engineered, behind the scenes, by Gene Sharp-reading, Otpor-emulating young professionals schooled in the Academy of Change in Qatar. That is a kind of performative speech: it's not that those in charge of the MSM necessarily think the Egyptian revolution was really made by such characters -- they must know that the coup de grâce was delivered by workers who, relying on tight bonds forged through "many years of meetings and joint struggle," went on strike en masse, especially in strategic sectors such as the Suez Canal; rather it's that the power elites of the West want them, rather than the organic intellectuals of the working class, to be the leaders of the post-Mubarak order and steer it into "a retrenchment of neoliberalism." So, from the point of view of the propagandists looking to shape post-Gaddafi Libya in a way that furthers rather than damages the interests of capitalists and imperialists, what's to like about the NFSL? That segues into the last question.

3. Is "the National Front for the Salvation of Libya . . . less likely to be so pliable" than Gaddafi? I'm afraid the NFSL will be even more pliable than the autocratic colonel that it has long sought to supplant. According to Richard Keeble, Jeffrey Richelson, and Joseph T. Stanik among other sources, the NFSL was an outfit funded by the CIA and Saudi Arabia during the Cold War. While more recent funding sources of the NFSL remain unknown, the young Libyans who are desperate to join the Great 21st-century Arab Revolt, when they do succeed in overthrowing the Gaddafi family, surely deserve a better leadership than the spooky specter apparently raised from the dustbin of the last century.

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2011/furuhashi240211.html
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-11 10:47 AM
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5. Yep, Muammar and you are Ho Chi Min.
:rofl:
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