Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 14 (or 16*), Part 7

[Catherina]

Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 14 (or 16*), Part 7

Today's threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6

#Feb17 Youth organizers invite Gaddafi's collaborators to stand under his umbrella ella ella ella ella ella http://bit.ly/faa34E

"We have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya."
- Saif Islam Qaddafi during interview

*I called this Day 14 because the official start date was #Feb17 but the kickoff was 2 days early so in reality today is day 14.

Previous Day 13 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5

The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors in first place

Threads for Days 1-13 are in my journal

"I was born in Tunisia, I persevered in Egypt, I sacrificed myself in Libya, I have fought in Yemen&Bahrain. I am Freedom, I will not die."
- Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
Remains of Soldiers Burned to Death for Not Shooting Protesters in #Libya http://www.twitvid.com/YXKOT & http://tinyurl.com/4d6a57n

MAP of Protests across the Middle East


Click here for updated and interactive map
Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

[Catherina]

1. #Brega proves no time or need 2 learn how 2 march, salute. Khamis forces crushed by revols not mil >

MilitantNews Stephen Morgan
#Libya #Brega shows there's no time or need 2 learn how 2 march or salute The Khamis forces were crushed by revolutionary not military force
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[pinboy3niner]

2. K&R

[Catherina]

3. Beyonce says she donated Qaddafi money to Haiti

fieldproducer Neal Mann
RT @RollingStone Beyonce says she donated Qaddafi money to Haiti: http://bit.ly/hSDyNn #Libya
2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Lamest. shit. ever.

Beyoncé Says She Donated Qaddafi Money to Haiti'The decision was made to put that payment to a good cause,'


Beyonce Knowles courtside during the NBA All-Star game on February 20 in Los Angeles
Kevork Djansezian/Getty

By Steve Knopper
MARCH 2, 2011 4:25 PM ET
On Monday, several prominent music-business sources told Rolling Stone that Beyoncé, Mariah Carey, Usher, 50 Cent and others who've performed shows funded by Libyan leaders should donate their fees to charity. As it turns out, Beyoncé already did. According to her publicist, Yvette Noel-Schure, the singer put all her earnings toward Haiti earthquake-relief efforts "over a year ago." "Once it became known that the third-party promoter was linked to the Qaddafi family," a statement explained, "the decision was made to put that payment to a good cause."

Beyoncé performed five songs in a black leotard at a private New Year's Eve 2009 party for Libyan leader Muammar el-Qaddafi's son, Muatassim, who is the country's national security adviser. Muatassim Qaddafi is the brother of Seif al-Islam Qaddafi, who recently warned Libyan protesters on state television to abandon the streets or face "rivers of blood." Qaddafi's security forces — who U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently called "mercenaries and thugs" — have been firing on peaceful protesters for days.

Over the past few years, Muatassim Qaddafi has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars hiring prominent western performers to provide music for his private events. In 2008, Mariah Carey accepted a $1 million fee, according to WikiLeaks cables and news reports, to sing four songs for a New Year's Eve party. 50 Cent has performed at Qaddafi functions in the past. Beyoncé was the main attraction at the New Year's Even party, which took place on at Nikki Beach, on the Caribbean island of St. Bart's party. Usher, according to reports, also performed there, and Lindsay Lohan, Jay-Z, Jon Bon Jovi and other celebrities were in the audience.

On Monday, Nelly Furtado promised to give away the money she earned for a similar appearance, tweeting: "In 2007, I received 1million$ from the Qaddafi clan to perform a 45 min. Show for guests at a hotel in Italy. I am going to donate the $." Furtado was unavailable for further comment. Management reps for 50 Cent, Carey and Usher refused comment as well.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beyonce-claims-she-donated-qaddafi-money-to-haiti-20110302

[sasha031]

4. K&R

[Catherina]

5. Manning charges - "aiding the enemy" can carry death penalty

fieldproducer Neal Mann
RT @RichardA Manning charges - "aiding the enemy" can carry death penalty but US Army not seeking it
1 hour ago

[Catherina]

13. 22 charges against Bradley Manning,including aiding enemy, in alleged mass leak

fieldproducer Neal Mann
RT @BreakingNews Military files 22 charges against Bradley Manning,including aiding enemy, in alleged mass leak of classified files-NBC News
1 hour ago

[defendandprotect]

59. How about, death penalty for the torturers -- those who are torturing Bradley Manning--

[defendandprotect]

61. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[joshcryer]

67. If Obama gets 2nd term he should pardon Manning.

There should really be a big push for it. I may have to start it.

[defendandprotect]

80. While it's "military" that's torturing Manning -- I imagine that Obama could stop it --

Obama has kept doors to torture open --

[Catherina]

6. captured Pro-Gaddafi Soldier ,,, says he received orders to “clean up” Brega

feb17libya Feb17Libya
#Feb17 #Libya Revealing interview with captured Pro-Gaddafi Soldier http://f.ast.ly/bexpC
2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

in Arabic

Revealing interview with captured Pro-Gaddafi Soldier
Posted on March 2, 2011 by v1d

Said he received orders to “clean up” Brega

http://feb17.info/videos/revealing-interview-with-captured-pro-gaddafi-soldier/

[Catherina]

10. left #RasLanuf military base & were told we were of to #Breiga to "clean it up"

LibyanDictator The Dictator
http://on.fb.me/ifcbOt We left #RasLanuf military base and were told we were of to #Breiga to "clean it up". #Libya #Feb17
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=202946326384457

Same video as above

[Catherina]

12. "clean it up", means 'comb it out', kill the enemy

LibyanDictator The Dictator
http://on.fb.me/ifcbOt (What do they mean by "clean it up"?) It means 'comb it out'. (Explain further) It means kill the enemy #Libya #Feb17
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

14. I am a soldier but I was forced here. I had no choice. Did they pay you? Not a penny,

LibyanDictator The Dictator
http://on.fb.me/ifcbOt I am a soldier but I was forced here. I had no choice. (Did they pay you?) Not a penny, nothing. #Libya #Feb17
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

19. Translated: Captured soldier from Al Brega battle today

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
Translated: Captured soldier from Al Brega battle today - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/transl…
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Translated: Captured soldier from Al Brega battle today

VIDEO

Translated by Libyafeb17.com

Interviewer: You are part of…
Soldier: *broken sound* …. foot soldiers
Interviewer: Which base?
Soldier: Safsaf in Sirt
Interviewer: Where is it’s base?
Soldier: Sirt
Interviewer: Who is it’s commander?
Soldier: Mabrook Al Forjani
Interviewer: From Sirt?
Soldier: From Sirt yes
Interviewer: Tell us about your brigade’s movements
Soldier: I will tell you about its movement in from the beginning when I arrived at the checkpoint in Raas Lanuf. From there the officer asked me for my ID and I gave it to him. They took us to the scouting camp there, the Abu Hdem camp. We arrived at the camp and they gave us our clothes. I wore my clothes and from there they brought us to Brega today. We passed Bishr, Al Agela and we arrived at Al Brega. We were approximately 30 or 40 cars. The cars were equipped with machine guys, Anti-aircraft machine guns, A Hauser (M60 Machine gun), A quad machine gun (?) and RPGs. We were in total 300 to 400 soldiers. All armed with heavy weaponary.
Interviewer: Alright..
Soldier: When we arrived at Brega, they started shooting. Shooting right, shooting left, right, left.
Interviewer: When did you leave the battalion base exactly?
Soldier: We left at around…6 in the morning
Interviewer: 6am
Soldier: 6am yeah, it was still a little dark
Interviewer: Right. And you came from Sirt towards the east
Soldier: correct
Interviewer: And you passed Bin Jwad and Ras Lanuf
Soldier: correct, we passed Bin Jwad and Ras Lanuf
Interviewer: Right, and what was there in Ras Lanuf exactly? Is it true that there’s a battalion there?
Soldier: There is a scouting battalion there yes.
Interviewer: Your total count was 400?
Soldier: Our number is in the region of 400 yes
Interviewer: What arms and weaponry

Soldier: The honest fact of the matter is that they gathered us yesterday and told us you are going to Brega
Interviewer: They gathered you?
Soldier: Yeah, they told us at x hour, you will be going to Brega. Get into the cars, get into the cars, we found ourselves in Brega.
Interviewer: get into the cars, get into the cars….did they take you from your houses or…
Soldier: No, from the barracks.
Interviewer: You were in the barracks right
Soldier: I have told you my story from the very beginning. We were soldiers on reserve. They told us to get into the cars, we wore our gear and were taken to Brega.
Interviewer: On what basis?
Soldier: On the basis that we were going to make base there or clean it or something..
Interviewer: What do you mean clean it? You guys were coming here to clean Brega?
Soldier: Yeah, we were coming here to clean Al Brega
Interviewer: Clean it from what?
Soldier: They said people were coming to live in Brega
Interviewer: To clean means to kill? Or does to clean meaning remove the wrappers and dirt?
Soldier: Clean meaning to sweep it so they can control it
Interviewer: Meaning whoever is in front of you kill them
Soldier: Whoever is in front of us…I won’t lie to you….they told us we were going to do some military cleaning..
Interviewer: I am sure that you understand military language. Cleaning…what does that mean?
Soldier: It means whoever attacks you with bullets…shoot them with bullets
Interviewer: Right, carry on
Soldier: And this is what God taught me
Soldier: I tell you that my county is Ajdabya. Let me explain to you my reality. My county is Ajdabya… and it remains my county and whatever happens in the end, may God be with them (meaning: in the end, I will side with my people. Gaddafi can go to hell). And if I were to be tried, I’d be going to the cells there with the other military personnel. I can stay and jump with the army, I can stay with them. But I want to get away because I am walking with the truth.
Soldier: I can tell you about it but earlier I saw a plane, you get me? I saw a plane but did it fire or not I didn’t see it do that with my eyes.
Interviewer: What is your rank?
Soldier: I have no rank
Interviewer: You have no rank..right.
Soldier: Their guns were aimed at any car. A Toyota or whatever, they would fire at it with machine guns and 106 and the light rifles. Anything that is on top of the car they would fire at as well, and this I saw with my own eyes.
Interviewer: In exchange, what did they give you in exchange to do this?
Soldier: As for something in exchange I swear I saw none of that. They didn’t give me anything. Not a dime.
Soldier: What else can I tell you, I swear I don’t know anything. I am a soldier, they held me against my will, they took me and brought me.
Interviewer: Against your will? Where is your family? Where are you brothers?
Soldier: My mother still lives in Ajdabiya, my siblings are still in Ajdabiya and my county is Ajdabiya.
Soldier: O Muslim youth, a piece of advice for the sake of God and none else. Any person who is defending something unlawful or false, then distance yourself from the problems. You are all brothers and..
Interviewer: We want you to be clear
Soldier: Right
Interviewer: Say I came here and found fire facing me.
Soldier: I came and found a firey resistance impossible to defeat, and when I fell I found mercy and people who treated me kindly. All praise be to God!
Crowd: God is Greater!
Interviewer: Your colleagues, did they run away or not?
Soldier: They ran away
Interviewer: Did they leave you or not?
Soldier: I testify in front of God that they left me

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/translated-captured-soldier-from-al-brega-battle-today/

LibyaFeb17_com says no copyright on his stuff.

[joshcryer]

58. Above is a must-watch. Wow. They took reservists and sent them to murder people.

It's clear the guy didn't know wtf they were supposed to do, just shoot at whoever shoots at them. It was a suicide mission.

[Catherina]

7. #Yemen: tear gas at 100s of anti-government protesters, killing 2 demonstrators in Sadr town

Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
AP: Security forces fired tear gas at 100s of anti-government protesters, killing 2 demonstrators in Sadr town, Lahaj Province, South #Yemen
2 hours ago

[Catherina]

8. With the US involvement in current #Libyan affairs, I worry that #Libya will turn into next #Iraq

Tripolitanian Libyan
With the US involvement in current #Libyan affairs, I worry that #Libya will turn into the next #Iraq
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

9. @whitehouse "Descending into chaos".. the only 1 that'll bring chaos is YOU & ur aircraft carriers

ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
"Descending into chaos".. the only one that'll bring chaos is YOU and your aircraft carriers. @PJCrowley @whitehouse #libya #feb17
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Jesus, get that intl goodwill committee moving NOW

[Catherina]

11. Young Boy from Bayda Encourages the People of Libya & His Cousin in Tripoli 2 Fight 4 Their Country

feb17libya Feb17Libya
#Feb17 #Libya Young Boy from Bayda Encourages the People of Libya and His Cousin in Tripoli to Fight for Their Country http://f.ast.ly/b866J
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Young Boy from Bayda Encourages the People of Libya and His Cousin in Tripoli to Fight for Their Country
Posted on March 2, 2011 by v1d

A kid from Al Bayda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=y013_Yd2ZyM#at=29

“To every guy, to every child, to every man, to every woman, to every girl, to every boy, I will say, good luck.”

And I will say we will fight… to the end”

Powerful words from the young voice of Libya..

http://feb17.info/videos/young-boy-from-bayda-encourages-the-people-of-libya-and-his-cousin-in-tripoli-to-fight-for-their-country/

[Catherina]

15. dispatch I had yesterday on Brega's front lines. (evanchill, AJE)

evanchill Evan Hill
As I write up today's news, here's the dispatch I had yesterday on Brega's front lines. Timely, I guess. http://ow.ly/46JyE
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Libya's uncertain front lines
In the desert to the west of Benghazi, armed but outgunned opposition troops stand ready to guard vital oil facilities.
Evan Hill Last Modified: 02 Mar 2011 05:37 GMT


Thousands of young men have reportedly signed up and begun training for the uprising’s new army

Ajdabiya, Libya - On Monday afternoon, Libyan military jets reportedly bombed a weapons depot somewhere near the opposition-held town of Ajdabiya, a little more than 160km south of Benghazi, the stable heart of the uprising in this country.

At a checkpoint on the outskirts of town, with several plumes of smoke rising in different directions along the flat, desert horizon, agitated rebels scurried around confiscated anti-aircraft guns, brandishing pistols and AK-47 assault rifles.

One man, his face strained with emotion, yelled that “many” had been killed in the air strike inside Ajdabiya itself. Others sped down the road away from town, saying the planes had hit the depot. Still more pointed to a plume of smoke to the north and claimed al-Zuwatina, a nearby oil field, had been attacked.

Inside the town, residents said there had been no air strike. Later, rebel officers in Benghazi claimed their anti-aircraft fire had scared off incoming jets. Reporters who visited the Ajdabiya depot described a large crater in the dirt; either the fighter pilots were terrible shots, or they had intended to miss their target.

...


The rebellion against Gaddafi's authority appears to be gearing for serious combat

...

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/03/20113234914145322.html

Appears?

[Catherina]

16. Video: burning of gaddafi's green books today in misrata

adeb91 A
burning of gaddafi's green books today in misrata #libyavideo #feb17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9kOvyOqDE&feature=youtu.be
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Gaddafi's Green Book Burning and Celebrations in Masrata Libya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9kOvyOqDE&feature=youtu.be

[sasha031]

21. WOW!!!! that's beautiful

[Catherina]

33. Thought so too. Immediately posted it to my FB. Gorgeous! n/t

[sasha031]

44. the pure joy!!!!!! it's absolutely breathtaking

:)

[joshcryer]

37. I got chills watching that. The singing was so beautiful. Wow.

[David__77]

41. I used to own the Green Book.

A friend in the Nation of Islam gave it to me. It was rather bland stuff. What struck me most was the patriarchy with an essentialist feminist cover - "women are different, and so must be protected." It wasn't very bold, but contained highfalutin references to the "rule of the masses" that reminded me a bit of Kim il Sung, yet written in a less mechanical fashion. I doubt these books being burned had been read in a long time.

[Raksha]

83. I never thought I'd see a book-burning I liked!

I'm opposed to them on general principles, but I'll make an exception in this case.

[Catherina]

17. a joke made me laugh: America threatened 2 bomb Libya, Gaddafi's response was >>

TrablesVoice Freedom Fighter
a joke made me laugh: America threatened 2 bomb Libya, Gaddafi's response was to cover all Libya by a tent written on it (This is Algeria) !
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

TrablesVoice is in Tripoli not feeling safe at all.

[Catherina]

18. No Military intervention. Libyans can do it alone. Aid in terms of medicine is welcome

ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
No Military intervention in #Libya Libyans can do it alone Aid in terms of medicine is welcome #Libya #Feb17 (Via @Liberty4Libya )
1 hour ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

20. I Luv this > Hillary Clinton says Al Jazeera is putting American Media to Shame

C0d3Fr0sty Anonymous
I Luv this > Hillary Clinton says Al Jazeera is putting American Media to Shame http://read.bi/fcoR1d via @AnonNewsNet #News
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Hillary Clinton Says Al Jazeera Is Putting American Media To Shame
Gus Lubin | Mar. 2, 2011, 11:52 AM | 17,913 | 75

...

She says a major reason the State Department needs money is because "we are in an information war and we are losing that war."

Clinton said private media is not good enough to handle the job: "Our private media cannot fill that gap. Our private media, particularly cultural programming often works at counter purposes to what we truly are as Americans. I remember having an Afghan general tell me that the only thing he thought about Americans is that all the men wrestled and the women walked around in bikinis because the only TV he ever saw was Baywatch and World Wide Wrestling."

Meanwhile she says Al-Jazeera, CCTV and Russia Today are killing it: "Al Jazeera is winning. The Chinese have opened up a global English language and multi-language television network, the Russians have opened up an English language network. I've seen it in a couple of countries and it's quite instructive."

Clinton says she is leading an effort to spread U.S. propaganda through new media, with twitter feeds in Arabic and Farsi.

...

http://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-al-jazeera-2011-3#ixzz1FUTaAqLZ

Hillary, hate 2 break this 2 you but propaganda through twitter feeds in the world and any other tool will never fool anyone until you end the wars. Shameful.

[joshcryer]

40. If Americas media did its job the people would insist the wars end.

[Catherina]

43. That's what gets me too. n/t

[joshcryer]

52. Every single day the US media does not tie the wars to our deficits is a crime.

It should be, every single day, "The United States deficit is caused by Afghanistan and Iraq." Every protest should be covered, live, 24/7. The Union Protests, for instance. Charlie Sheen is not important. FOIA requests should be made daily for drone video so the people can see us blowing to bits little kids. The American people would march upon D.C. in such massive numbers that it would blow minds. Right now our minds are being saturated with garbage. I think social media is slowly changing that but it will take at least a generation before it penetrates. It's a shame the media is as useless as it is.

[pinboy3niner]

46. Media report Brega "impossible to reach" as AJE reports from...Brega!

Now here's an interesting report, in the Sydney Morning Herald. It contains the line, "Brega itself was impossible to reach on Wednesday." A quick Google news search will reveal that it's a line that has been repeated over and over again. Check for yourself. Our count is nearly 17,000 news articles repeating the line. Obviously we've not checked them all.

But, equally obviously, given our reporting through the day from Brega, and our photos from the town and its hospital, it wasn't exactly "impossible" to get there...

--AJE Live Blog - Libya March 2
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/live-blog-libya-march-2

[joshcryer]

48. I loved that. It's up to 27k hits now.

[Catherina]

22. #Israel: Veteran dipl Baruch quits, can no longer represent Israel; its foreign policy is 'wrong'

AnonymousIRC Anonymous
Veteran diplomat Ilan Baruch quits, says he can no longer represent Israel; its foreign policy is 'wrong': http://is.gd/R8erdC #OpPalestine
54 minutes ago

Diplomat: I can no longer represent Israel
Veteran diplomat Ilan Baruch quits, says he can no longer represent government; Israel's foreign policy is 'wrong,' he says, adds that blaming global anti-occupation views on anti-Semitism is 'simplistic, artificial'
Ynet
Published: 03.02.11, 20:40 / Israel News

Foreign Ministry earthquake: A veteran diplomat says he has resigned from his post because he had a hard time defending the policies of Israel's current government, Yedioth Ahronoth reported Wednesday.

Ilan Baruch says he quit because "Israel's foreign policy is wrong," pointing to the Palestinian issue.
Should this trend continue, he warned, Israel will turn into a pariah state and face growing de-legitimization.

Baruch told Israel TV Wednesday that Israel's standing was in danger because of its policies, which he said were "difficult to explain."

"I can no longer honestly represent this government," he said earlier. "As (Foreign Minister) Lieberman was elected by a large public in a legitimate manner, I cannot question him – but I don't have to serve him, and therefore I'm quitting.

...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4036889,00.html

[defendandprotect]

65. K/R -- Israel diplomat resigns: Israel foreign policy "wrong" -- About time!!

[Catherina]

23. please, world, stop going over and over about how ur military can help us. Help us with strategies >

ChangeInLibya Halwasa Guy
So please, world, stop going over and over about how your military can help us. Help us with strategies, knowledge & aid instead. #libya
35 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

24. #Egypt: revolution ended when "kids" cleaned up Tahrir but what's happening now not a revolution>>

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
Shafik: the revolution ended when the "kids" cleaned up Tahrir, but what's happening now is not a revolution, it will destroy Egypt
30 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Heh.

[Catherina]

26. #Egypt: Sawiris the billionaire says that the workers who are striking now have no excuse to strike.

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
Sawiris the billionaire says that the workers who are striking now have no excuse to strike.
27 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

27. #Egypt: OMG, Shafik just said: the martyrs have nothing to do with turning Tahrir into Hyde Park.

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
OMG, Shafik just said: the martyrs have nothing to do with turning Tahrir into Hyde Park.
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


Not over by a long shot

[Catherina]

25. Looks like the Chinese have made themselves clear on #Libya situation >>

Tripolitanian Libyan
Looks like the Chinese have made themselves clear on #Libya situation, they want w/e is economically best for them, ie #Gaddafi
31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Just the Chinese?

[CommonSensePLZ]

82. I've been saying it: The PRC is EVIL. nt

[Catherina]

28. #Saudi Princess Noura can you just shut your mouth and go chit chat somewhere else

Hendka hend mohammed
Princess Noura can you just shut your mouth and go chit chat somewhere else #Saudi
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

29. #saudi: Abdullah u really should tell ur family member 2 keep mouths shut, r are just provoking

Hendka hend mohammed
#king Abdullah your really should tell your family member to keep their mouth shut, they are just provoking the people #saudi
9 minutes ago

[sasha031]

30. Libya analysis: 'A sign of weakness at the heart of the regime' - video

The Guardian's Middle East editor, Ian Black, assesses Muammar Gaddafi's counter-offensive, his latest speech in Tripoli and the prospects of a no-fly zone

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2011/mar/02/libya-analysis-video?CMP=twt_fd

[JanDutchy]

32. Gaddafi offensive against insurgents failed

An offensive of the Libyan leader Gaddafi against insurgents in the East of the country's Wednesday failed.

Rebels knew an attack on the strategically important oil city Brega. Gaddafi sware unto ' by will fight to the last man and woman '.
According to eyewitnesses, the coastal town of Brega, over 700 kilometers east of the capital Tripoli, todayyou invaded by armed mercenaries in cars. The attackers were supported by artillery and warplanes dropped several bombs. They knew the runway, the port and to occupy oil installations.


Surely six dead
When rebels counterattack stakes, was a battle that lasted all day and definitely six deaths. The rebels got help from supporters from the nearby Ajdabiya. According to eyewitnesses at Brega fell three bombs. Also a barracks in Ajdabiya district was attacked from the air.


After fierce gunfights were about two hundred Warriors of Gaddafi reduced on the grounds of the University in Brega and then chased from the city. At the hospital, where the corpses of six opposition fighters were introduced, gathered angry residents, who called the ' blood of the martyrs is not for nothing tragic '

[Catherina]

31. will be uploading a LARGE collection of photos from Gaddafi's bunker in Al bayda very shortly!

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: We'll be uploading a LARGE collection of photos from Gaddafi's bunker in Al bayda very shortly! #feb17 #libya
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

68. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[Catherina]

34. EU has announced 10 million euros of aid to Libyan refugees on the Libyan/Tunisian border

biladee P D
RT @HeyJude408: RT @majda72 The EU has announced 10 million euros of aid to Libyan refugees on the Libyan/Tunisian border #Feb17 #Libya
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Poboy]

35. Giving a fully functional, home based Recommend!

[Catherina]

38. Glad to see you can get back on! Thanks n/t

[Catherina]

36. #Pakistan: US Shocked, Outraged by Killing of Pakistani Minister

biladee P D
US Shocked, Outraged by Killing of Pakistani Minister http://bit.ly/fFi9JN
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US Shocked, Outraged by Killing of Pakistani Minister
David Gollust | State Department

The United States is expressing shock and outrage at the Wednesday assassination of Pakistan’s Minister for Minorities, Shahbaz Bhatti, a Christian who had sought to amend a law mandating a death penalty for insulting Islam. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the killing, attributed to Taliban militants, is part of an alarming trend of religious intolerance in South Asia and the Middle East.

...

Bhatti, Pakistan’s only Christian cabinet member, became the second senior Pakistani official to be assassinated for opposing the blasphemy law. In January, Punjabi provincial governor Salman Taseer was killed by one of his bodyguards.

...

Appearing before the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the killing was an attack not only on one man but on the values of tolerance and respect for all faiths championed by Pakistan’s founder, Mohammed Ali Jinnah. "I recently had the opportunity to meet with Minister Bhatti. He was a very impressive, courageous man. He was a patriot, he was a man of great conviction, he cared deeply for Pakistan and he had dedicated his life to helping the least among us," she said.

...

She said she was shocked and outraged by his death, which she said was regrettably part of a broader trend of intolerance toward religious minorities. "The attack on Christians in Iraq, the attacks on the Copts in Egypt, the attack on minority Islamic sects in Pakistan and elsewhere is a matter of deep distress to me personally and to our government. It runs against all of our values and we are going to be doing all we can to support the freedom of religion, the freedom of conscience and to work with governments everywhere so that they uphold universal values," she said.

...

http://www.voanews.com/english/news/US-Shocked-Outraged-by-Killing-of-Pakistani-Minister--117276493.html?utm_source=voa_news-twitter-account&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitterfeed

Shock, outrage over one man but for over a week just *concern* for hundreds of savage deaths in Libya.
Badly played.

[uppityperson]

39. k&r, checking in on Du to see what you've posted.

[Catherina]

42. Gaddafi bunker photo gallery

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
EXCLUSIVE: Gaddafi bunker photo gallery - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/exclus…
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http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/exclusive-gaddafi-bunker-photo-gallery/

[Catherina]

45. Pro-G thugs are harassing families on the list of #Libya martyrs, so we had to hide names >

analibyana Ana Libiya
Pro-G thugs are harassing families on the list of #Libya martyrs, so we had to hide names. Collection going on; public view once we can!
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[Catherina]

47. Arab summit postponed to May. No Arab leader dares leave his country.

AngryArabNews The Angry Arab
That is funny: It is official. The Arab League has just announced that the Arab summit (originally scheduled for March) has now been postponed to May. No Arab leader dares leave his country.
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[Catherina]

49. "A little light in pockets lately? Blame Libya" Ppl dying 4freedom & all we care about R gas prices?

OmarAlMukhtar Omar Al Mukhtar
RT @jason_delarosa: Just heard on news, "A little light in pockets lately? Blame Libya" Ppl dying 4freedom & all we care about R gas prices?
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[Catherina]

50. BREAKING: Call of distress from Brega tonight - 70 cars full of mercenaries

LibyaFeb17_com LibyaFeb17.com
BREAKING: Call of distress from Brega tonight! - #feb17 #libya - libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaki…
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BREAKING: Call of distress from Brega tonight!
Posted on March 3, 2011 by admin

Almanara Media Mail:
O Almanara Media! O free men of Libya! O honourable daughters of Libya! An URGENT URGENT distress call from the city of Brega. In the city of Hrawah which is situated between Raas Lanuf and Sirt, 70 cars full of mercenaries have just arrived to support the battalion which is present there. They plan to attack the city of Brega, occupy it and control its airport. I appeal to God! Please deliver my call of distress! Please! The people of Brega are distressed and the revolutionary youth plan to resist this battalion. By God I fear there may be a massacre tonight, help us help us help us!

The people of Brega

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/breaking-call-of-distress-from-brega-tonight/

[joshcryer]

53. They come in the night, the cowards. Before morning prayers, too. Sick cowards.

[Catherina]

55. distress call is from Hwara which is very close 2 sirte, the last town b4 sirte, #G's birthplace

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
The distress call is from Hwara which is very close to sirte, the last town before sirte, gaddafi's birthplace, #Libya #Feb17
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[joshcryer]

56. 70 cars full of mercenaries = 400+ men (going by the interview with captured soldier).

So much blood is soon to be spilled. :(

[Catherina]

51. BBC: Libyan State TV says that Chavez spoke with Gaddafi on Tuesday

Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
La BBC dice que la Televisión libia informó que Chávez y Gaddafi hablaron por teléfono el martes. #libia #feb17
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[joshcryer]

54. I take it Chavez didn't convince him to stop the aggression on innocent citizens of Libya.

[Catherina]

60. that's a bullshit post and you know it n/t

[joshcryer]

64. w/e I hope their little "peace commission" works out.

As highly improbable, utterly unlikely that it is.

[Catherina]

66. Me too because the way it's heading now, I c no better alternatives. Read this

I think there's a lot of food 4 thought here. Even if you disagree, this is clearly, after decades of experience, how the Libyan people see it and that's all that matters.

If you have time, please read the entire article and look at Peace Patriot's posts here and in an LBN thread I didn't comment in so I can't find it now.

We know how terrible our govt has been over the decades to the Arab World, why beat on Hugo Chavez who might be able to really help here? I'm sick of ppl dying and tired of seeing the govt I subsidize pursue a reckless imperial strategy that hurts us and hurts other people- all for the financial profit of very few people (oil companies and the MIC in this case) who own the western govts.

Imperialist hands off Libya!
1 March 2011

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The pace of the shift in American policy, in particular, is extraordinary. Washington has moved from relative silence on the movement against Gaddafi to leading the charge for outside intervention.

The United States made a major political and financial investment in the cultivation of friendly relations with Gaddafi, regarding his sudden rapprochement with Washington and US foreign policy after 2003 as a major strategic gain. Hillary Clinton recently feted one of Gaddafi’s sons in Washington and appointed the founding chairman of the US-Libya Business Association to be the State Department’s coordinator for international energy affairs.

VIDEO of Hillary and Mutassim Gaddaffi
Gaddafi’s son visited the United States in 2009. Secretary of State Clinton ensured he was made suitably welcome.

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The momentum toward military intervention is accelerating. The Berlusconi government in Italy—the former colonial power in Libya and the biggest customer for its oil—officially repudiated its non-aggression pact with the Gaddafi regime Sunday. This is the necessary legal preparation both for Italian military action inside Libya and the unleashing of US warplanes at Aviano and other NATO air bases in Italy.

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In other words, Libya is to be turned into a semi-colony, ruled by the United States and its fellow predators from Western Europe, who will seize control of the oil reserves and transform the country’s territory into a strategic base of operations against the mass uprisings now sweeping the Middle East and North Africa.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/pers-m01.shtml

[joshcryer]

69. "I think that what happened in Libya is the premature triggering of a revolt, by the CIA"

That's what Gaddafi said today. :puke:

No credible analysis there at all, sorry. Just know that I believe time for a "peaceful solution" has long, very long since past. And I predict that the National Libyan Council will reject outright any extension of "mediation" whatsoever. I'll avoid further discussion, just know that's my position, and when I am shown to be right I won't rub it in anyones face.

[defendandprotect]

72. Don't see that anyone gives any credence to what Gaddafi is saying --

though most of us well understand that that CIA's prior history is one of covert

action -- but against democratically elected governments -- and liberal governments.

CIA is a right wing/fascist organization -- which over time has taken money not just

from any right wing sources, but also from KKK and Nazis. CIA has worked not only to

keep right wing governments in power all over the world, they've worked to do the same

thing here in America funding the campaigns/careers of right wing politicians --

two I'm aware of were Sen. Strom Thurmond and Rep. Gerald Ford.

Pat Buchanan has also received money from the CIA.

Difficult to fault anyone for thinking the worst about the CIA --

HOWEVER, all over the world as capitalism/corporatists have worked to "harvest slave

labor" over these past decades, we see the same movements by citizens as we've seen in

Egypt and Libya, Yemen, etal -- including Wisconsin.

If America begins to take our own rebellion/revolt more seriously, I've no doubt that

we will hear that it's "red under beds"--!!

[joshcryer]

75. Peace Patriot said exactly what Gaddafi said.

Please read what Peace Patriot said. Peace Patriot said the CIA pushed it. Gaddafi said al-Queada backed by CIA influence pushed it. I can go find you the part of his speech when he said it, I was watching it live.

So yes, 'anyone' does give credence to what Gaddafi said, on these very forums no less.

[defendandprotect]

77. So because Gaddifi says something that "Peace Patriot" repeats ... Gaddafi has credence???

:rofl:

[joshcryer]

78. Yes, Peace Patriot was giving credence to Gaddafi's lies.

edit: fyi Peace Patriot said that before Gaddafi said it, outright. But anyone with a brain could see where it was going as it was exactly the propaganda I told you would be said in LBN during that discussion we had about the CIA. Remember that one?

Just because someone invokes the US's imperialism does not make them magically arbiters of truth, OK? Gaddafi blaming the protests on the US does not make it true, any more than Peace Patriot blaming the protests on the US does.

[defendandprotect]

79. That doesn't give Gaddafi credibility -- on any issue --

[joshcryer]

81. Read my edit. I do not think it makes Gaddafi credible, I think it makes Peace Patriot not credible.

Simple logic.

edit: see post #69 where I say "No credible analysis there at all, sorry."

We've come full circle.

[defendandprotect]

70. Given US history, I'd be more concerned about our government than Chavez's --

National Hillary Clinton Articles, National Hillary Clinton ...
Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton once called Egyptian President, Hosni Mubarak, a “close family friend” of the United States. After days of peaceful protests in ...
www.examiner.com/hillary-clinton-in-​national - Cached


And aid for Libya funneled by HRC thru the Gaddafi family's foundations -- $400,000 of it!!



And that doesn't even yet begin to acknowledge America's past history -- most of it evil.

And too much of it currently, still evil!!

[joshcryer]

71. Read post #69.

I am not concerned about Chavez in the least. I simply see nothing coming from it. I hope I am wrong.

[defendandprotect]

73. I read it -- doesn't change anything I'm saying to you --

Most of us understand the evil of the CIA --

we also understand the power of the people --

the power of the powerless!!

[joshcryer]

76. Yes, I was not defending the CIA. I was defending the Libyan protesters, who are *not* CIA backed.

[Catherina]

57. Gaddafi’s military capabilities

Gaddafi’s military capabilities
Posted on March 2, 2011 by v1d

Gaddafi’s military capabilities
Posted on March 2, 2011 by v1d

Al Jazeera English

As fighting in Libya intensifies, attention is now turning to the stockpile of weapons Muammar Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, may have built up over four decades of rule. Fears over what Gaddafi could have at his disposal, however, may well not match up with reality, given that the airworthiness of his fighter jets is being questioned, and that years of sanctions and neglect may have rendered much of the army’s equipment useless. Al Jazeera’s Tim Friend reports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MtTaIH38uI

http://feb17.info/videos/gaddafis-military-capabilities/

[sasha031]

63. K&R

[defendandprotect]

74. K/R

[Catherina]

62. Part 8 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x544592