Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 11 (or 13*), Part 5 (ICC!)

[Catherina]

Libyan Revolution Tweets, Day 11 (or 13*), Part 5 (ICC!)

#Feb17 Youth organizers invite Gaddafi's collaborators to stand under his umbrella ella ella ella ella ella http://bit.ly/faa34E

"We have Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. Plan A is to live and die in Libya. Plan B is to live and die in Libya. Plan C is to live and die in Libya."
- Saif Islam Qaddafi during interview

Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4

*I called this Day 11 because the official start date was #Feb17 but the kickoff was 2 days early so in reality today is day 13.

Previous Day 10 threads: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4, Part 5, Part 6, Part 7, Part 8, Part 9, Part 10, Part 11
The world’s 100 largest arms dealers, excluding Chinese vendors, sold weapons for $401 billion in 2009, with US vendors in first place

Threads for Days 1-9 are in my journal

"I was born in Tunisia, I persevered in Egypt, I sacrificed myself in Libya, I have fought in Yemen&Bahrain. I am Freedom, I will not die."
- Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub

LibyanThinker The Libyan Thinker
Remains of Soldiers Burned to Death for Not Shooting Protesters in #Libya http://www.twitvid.com/YXKOT & http://tinyurl.com/4d6a57n

MAP of Protests across the Middle East



Google Earth DL here to see positions of army and patrolling route of mercenaries

Please rec if you read these so I know if the effort here is worth it.

[drm604]

1. K&R

Thank you Catherina!

[Catherina]

2. Gaddafi vows to stay, blames foreigners, al Qaeda, Serbian TV interview

AlanFisher Alan Fisher
#Gaddafi vows to stay in #Libya, blames foreigners, al Qaeda for unrest -- Serbian TV interview - Reuters
31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply






Ya, ya, ya, keep yakking. Tell it from the moon and it still won't make it true.

PILLS! They took the blue, the red, oh no, they took the wrong color!

[sasha031]

31. brilliant pic

[Catherina]

3. For French Duers

znewdealz new deal
by motazaline
Ce soir sur #France2tv "La graine et le mulet" après le discours de #Sarkozy ... Ca me fait rigoler
43 minutes ago

[Catherina]

4. skirmishes going on & regime attacking parts of misrata tajura and azzawya trying to demoralize ppl

SaloumehZ SaloumehZ
RT @libyansrevolt still skirmishes going on and regime attacking parts of #misrata #tajura and #azzawya trying to demoralise people #libya
34 minutes ago

[Catherina]

5. BREAKING: Misrata Broadcast station providing information 4 protesters under attack from the air

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING: The Broadcast station in Misrata providing information on behalf of the protesters is under attack from the air #Libya #Feb17
32 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

6. State TV: INCREASING SALARIES YO! LET'S CALL OFF THIS REVOLUTION OFF

ChangeInLibya Libyan Dude
Libya State TV has the English news segment. THEY ARE INCREASING SALARIES YO! LET'S CALL OFF THIS REVOLUTION MANNN #libya #feb17
31 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

7. State TV showing a phone call between 2 "terrorists" as proof ll of this is because of the pills!

AliTweel Ali Tweel
#LibyanTV are showing a phone call between 2 terrorists (protesters) as a prove that all of this is because of the pills! #WTF
25 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

8. BREAKING: M35 Fighter jet in the vicinity over Mirsta more when we have it

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING: an M35 Fighter jet in the vicinity over Mirsta more when we have it #Libya #Feb17
21 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

9. #Misrata being bombed from air >>>

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Misrata being bombed from air #Gaddafi wants 2 hold it because its 3rd biggest city+keep control coast 2 stronghold Sirte 1/2way 2Benghazi
19 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

18. Misrata broadcast house not damaged by the attempted air strikes, No reports of Martyrs

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING: Misrata broadcast house was not damaged by the attempted air strikes, No reports of Martyrs #Libya #Feb17
22 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

78. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[Catherina]

10. Protests started peacefully, gaddafi unleashed an unprecedented attack on us >>>

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Protests started peacefully, gaddafi unleashed an unprecedented attack on us as, we defended ourselves, we want peace and freedom #Libya
19 minutes ago

[Catherina]

11. Shortages in east, info from cmte in charge: antibiotics, anesthetics, narcotics, psychological meds

EnoughGaddafi Enough Gaddafi
Shortages in east, info from cmte in charge there: shortages in antibiotics, anesthetics, narcotics and psychological meds #libya #feb17
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

12. #Egypt: Cairo chief of security: "human rights & freedom u want prevent us from going after thugs"

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
Cairo chief of security: "The human rights & freedom you want prevent us from going after thugs." #Egypt http://ow.ly/44iyo #MOIcrimes
19 minutes ago

:wow:

[CJvR]

41. There might be something...

...to it.

Afterall how many of the Egyptian police have ever been trained in real investigative work as opposed to hauling in suspects and beat a confession out of them?

[Catherina]

13. BREAKING: Jalu is confirmed %100 free, officers from army joined the protesters controlling oil etc

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
BREAKING: Jalu is confirmed %100 free as there are officers from the army who joined the protesters controlling oil etc #Libya #Feb17
19 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

79. KR

[Catherina]

14. heavy presence of security forces loyal to Gaddafi around the Zawyia Cit

libyafreedomnew Libyanews
Witness a heavy presence of security forces loyal to Gaddafi around the Zawyia City #Libya #Gaddafi
19 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

15. #France's scandal-hit Foreign Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie resigns

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
RT @france24: #France's scandal-hit Foreign Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie resigns http://f24.my/h8kekQ
18 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

French foreign minister quits after miserable term in office
France's Foreign Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie has tendered her resignation in a letter to President Nicolas Sarkozy, following a series of gaffes related to the recent uprising in Tunisia.

AP - The office of France’s foreign minister says she has sent a letter to President Nicolas Sarkozy offering her resignation.

Michele Alliot-Marie has been at the center of a political storm over her December vacation in Tunisia as popular protests there eventually led to the ouster of the former French colony’s longtime strongman.

...

A spokesman for Sarkozy’s office declined immediate comment about whether the president had accepted the resignation.

http://www.france24.com/en/20110227-France-foreign-minister-tenders-resignation-Tunisia-Michele-Alliot-Marie

Sarko! How's your week going? Hope you've got your tv on and are enjoying the show.

[Catherina]

71. Her resignation letter here

jnayna Janet Lahiani
by 12fevrier
@lemondefr : La lettre de démission de Michèle Alliot-Marie http://lemde.fr/g13sY7
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Not gonna even bother translating it.

[Catherina]

16. battalions of security (Aqeelah) moving to #Benghazi and another moving towards Misurata from Sirte

libyafreedomnew Libyanews
#Jazeera: - battalions of security (Aqeelah) moving to #Benghazi and another moving towards #Misurata from #Sirte # Libya # Gaddafi
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

17. US neo-cons urge #Libya intervention. NO. The US will only cause more bloodshed. NO!

HendOfPalestine Hend
AJE: US neo-cons urge #Libya intervention - english.aljazeera.net/indepth/featur… NO. The US will only cause more bloodshed. This is the People's revolution.
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

US neo-cons urge Libya intervention
Signatories to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) demand "immediate" military action.
Jim Lobe Last Modified: 27 Feb 2011 16:00 GMT


Senator Joseph Lieberman wants the US to arm Libyan rebels

In a distinct echo of the tactics they pursued to encourage US intervention in the Balkans and Iraq, a familiar clutch of neo-conservatives appealed Friday for the United States and NATO to "immediately" prepare military action to help bring down the regime of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and end the violence that is believed to have killed well over a thousand people in the past week.

The appeal, which came in the form of a letter signed by 40 policy analysts, including more than a dozen former senior officials who served under President George W. Bush, was organised and released by the Foreign Policy Initiative (FPI), a two-year-old neo-conservative group that is widely seen as the successor to the more-famous – or infamous – Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

...

In particular, it called for Washington to press NATO to "develop operational plans to urgently deploy warplanes to prevent the regime from using fighter jets and helicopter gunships against civilians and carry out other missions as required; (and) move naval assets into Libyan waters" to "aid evacuation efforts and prepare for possible contingencies;" as well as "(e)stablish the capability to disable Libyan naval vessels used to attack civilians."

The usual suspects

Among the letter's signers were former Bush deputy defence secretary Paul Wolfowitz; Bush's top global democracy and Middle East adviser; Elliott Abrams; former Bush speechwriters Marc Thiessen and Peter Wehner; Vice President Dick Cheney's former deputy national security adviser, John Hannah, as well as FPI's four directors: Weekly Standard editor William Kristol; Brookings Institution fellow Robert Kagan; former Iraq Coalition Provisional Authority spokesman Dan Senor; and former Undersecretary of Defense for Policy and Ambassador to Turkey, Eric Edelman.
...


http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/features/2011/02/2011227153626965756.html

Y'all remember who Obama met with when Egypt erupted? STOP THEM NOW!

[JanDutchy]

69. Will Lieberman meet the man again?

Libya - Senators McCain & Lieberman Visit Gadaffi A Week Before Lockerbie Bomber Release (Aug 14 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYVWT_kDTsU

[Catherina]

19. intellectuals repeat the patronizing attitude of Mubarak+ Gaddafi say working people don't now >>>

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya All the intellectuals repeat the patronizing attitude of Mubarak+ #Gaddafi by say working people don't now how to govern themselves
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Heh. At least now you can clearly see which side they're on, which side who's on.

[Catherina]

20. Jalu, Eastern Sahara, vital due to a few oil fields, now in control of the Revolutionaries

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Jalu is situated in the Eastern Sahara and is vital as it has a few oil fields, now in control of the Revolutionaries #Libya #Feb17
20 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

21. Musa Kosa and his dealings.. should be included in that UN sanctions list

ChangeInLibya Libyan Dude
A nice read about Musa Kosa and his dealings.. I think he should be included in that list too: http://goo.gl/wdVlT @hafedalghwell #libya
16 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


My Secret Talks With Libya, And Why They Went Nowhere

By Gary Hart
Sunday, January 18, 2004; Page B05
DENVER

In February 1992, five years after I retired from the Senate and entered the world of international law, I was approached at my hotel while on a business trip to Athens by a man identifying himself as a "naval attaché{grv}" from the Libyan Embassy, who was almost certainly with the Libyan intelligence service. This was by no means the first time such a thing had happened to me since leaving the Senate. Nevertheless, there was an air of intrigue about the meeting, and it led to intensive contacts with the Libyan government over the next several weeks.

Although I have never felt the need to discuss these events before, I do so now because they relate to the argument being made by supporters of the current Bush administration that Libya has abandoned weapons of mass destruction as a direct result of the United States's preemptive invasion of Iraq. My experience of 12 years ago suggests a missed opportunity to curb Libya well before Iraq.

...

[Catherina]

22. who the heck is Musa Kosa? I'm fascinated

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
@
@changeinlibya who the heck is Musa Kosa? I'm fascinated by his name!
17 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

23. Used to be head of #libya intelligence. Very dangerous man and lots of blood on his hands.

ChangeInLibya Libyan Dude
@
@marwame Used to be head of #libya intelligence. Very dangerous man and lots of blood on his hands.
17 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

24. Let this be known today: NO FOREIGN PRESENCE in #Libya

feb17libya Feb17Libya
@
@ChangeInLibya @shabablibya @AliTweel @mushuthalohari ... Agreed.. Let this be known today: NO FOREIGN PRESENCE in #Libya
15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[defendandprotect]

80. LIBYA HURRA -- !!

[Catherina]

25. Use of #mercenaries not new. #G created "Islamic Legion", similar to French Foreign Legion 2 fight >

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya Use of #mercenaries not new. #Gaddafi created "Islamic Legion", similar to French Foreign Legion 2 fight in other African countries
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

26. For Stress Relief Shoot #Gaddafi:

feb17libya Feb17Libya
@ChangeInLibya @ShababLibya @monaeltahawy: For Stress Relief Shoot #Gaddafi: http://anas.al-far.com/posts/shot-muammar-gaddafi-166 #Libya
10 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply




Great stress relieving game. Keeping that window open

[Catherina]

27. Interim PM of #Tunisia & FM of #France. Anybody else resigning? Door is wide open!

Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
Today 2 resignations: Interim PM of #Tunisia & FM of #France. Anybody else resigning? Door is wide open! #sidibouzid #jan25 #feb17 #yemen
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

28. fuss is being raised over #Saif's PH.D from the London School of Economics.

Libyan4life Jeel Ghathub
A fuss is being raised over #Saif's PH.D from the London School of Economics. Lots of reports that its was bought. I believe it.
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Heh.

[Catherina]

29. Disturbing video shows detainees in custody of #Egyptian Military

AymanM Ayman Mohyeldin
Disturbing video shows detainees in custody of #Egyptian Military in Port Said http://fb.me/uk5zAmPT
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmchWo5Fu7U


Posted this yesterday but can't be seen enough. Nevermind any charades, Military high command is never on the ppl's side.

[Catherina]

30. Extremely busy operation theatres in Zawiya hospital today

LibyaFeb17_com Libyan Youth
Extremely busy operation theatres in Zawiya hospital today - #feb17 #libya - http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2914
3 minutes ago

Extremely busy operation theatres in Zawiya hospital today
Posted on February 27, 2011 by admin

VIDEO. Surgical scene. Graphic if you can't stand blood.

Translation of commotion:

Doctor: Seriously guys now isn’t the time!
Cameraman: What do you mean not the time? I want to upload this! I want to show…

http://www.libyafeb17.com/?p=2914

Sounds hard but you MUST get film out.

[Catherina]

32. Kufra rejects financial bribery and weapons on a plane sent by Saif Gaddafi

feb17libya Feb17Libya
#feb17 Kufra rejects financial bribery and weapons on a plane sent by Saif Gaddafi http://f.ast.ly/q4wkU #@shabablibya
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Kufra rejects financial bribery and weapons on a plane sent by Saif Gaddafi
Posted on February 27, 2011 by main

A provisional government in Kufra declared its support for the people and annouced that they rejected any attempts at bribery from Saif Gaddafi. “The city of Kufra declares itself liberated.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sa1Ryu7Fe

http://feb17.info/videos/kufra-rejects-financial-bribery-and-weapons-on-a-plane-sent-by-saif-gaddafi/

[sasha031]

43. Saif the once imagined great hope for Libya

[steve2470]

33. you rock Catherina nt

[Catherina]

34. This Friday certainly Day of Departure, freedom close, brothers, sisters, take to streets & grab it

Tripolitanian Libyan
This #Friday will certainly be the Day of Departure, freedom is close, my #Libyan brothers and sisters, take to the streets and grab it!
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

35. fighters want ex- #Gaddafi cronies kept out of #Council in #Benghazi

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya #Council in #Benghazi strengthened by representatives from different towns, but many fighters want ex- #Gaddafi cronies kept out
8 minutes ago

Sorry West.

[defendandprotect]

81. KR

[Catherina]

36. Working on article about katiba battle, tons of pics of burnt out security HQs with confidential >>

evanchill Evan Hill
Working on article about katiba battle tonight; also took tons of pics of burnt out security HQs, with confidential files strewn all over.
7 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

37. #Kuwait: Riots in Sohar with ROP station set ablaze and Ministry damaged. Two shot dead by police.

fieldproducer Neal Mann
RT @frasereC4 From #Kuwait: Riots in Sohar with ROP station set ablaze and Ministry damaged. Two shot dead by police.
9 minutes ago

[Catherina]

38. screw the oscars when people are dying! how shallow can we get sometimes

juhina_ jay_Libya
screw the oscars when people are dying! how shallow can we get sometimes
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


You'd be surprised.

[Catherina]

39. Road west 2 Tripoli unsafe, starting several 100 kms from Benghazi, skirting it to the south.

evanchill Evan Hill
Road west to Tripoli remains unsafe, starting several hundred kilometers from Benghazi, but Libyans are beginning to skirt it to the south.
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

40. Libyan tribal leader says that most of the west of #Libya is now in the hands of the people.

marwame Marwa Elnaggar
#AJA: AFP: a Libyan tribal leader says that most of the west of #Libya is now in the hands of the people. #feb17
9 minutes ago

[Catherina]

42. update from iyad_elbaghdadi- Must read

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Alright guys, here's the update now. #Libya
8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

First, some clarification about the morning's news regarding Azawiya, Misurata and Benghazi.

I gather the tanks heading from Sirt to Misurata have positioned on the road and did not proceed. Over 100 kms from Misurata. #Libya

As for news that tanks are heading from Sirt to Benghazi, that's just a rumor. Could even be deliberate disinformation. #Libya

I have confirmation that Zlitan has been reoccupied by Gaddafi. It's unclear how many units he has there.

There were attacks on Misurata today, apparently to try to capture it and "show it off" to "touring media"

Today's attacks on Misurata seem to have been targeted at the local radio station from which the rebels have been broadcasting.

BTW, about Benghazi, don't worry about it because stepping there would mean Gaddafi loses his entire army. It's very well defended.

As for Azawiya, there were attacks yesterday, also apparently to capture it and "show it off" to media. Failed, as you now know.

Of course Gaddafi tried to stage "pro" demonstrations to show to the media, but it didn't take.

I'd like you to know that Azawiya, since being liberated, never fell back to Gaddafi really. They were just limited incursions.

Sorman still has Gaddafi units positioned there. Problematic coz they can attack Azawiya or move to block the road to Gharyan.

Gaddafi has a battalion at the town of Al-Mayah (also called Km 27) on the road between Azawiya and Tripoli.

That includes tanks and infantry. He's blocking the way between Azawiya and Tripoli that way.

Moving into Tripoli, the Green Square area is like a camp: tanks, infantry, snipers, mercenaries.

Nasr street, which is between Fashloum and the Green Square, has snipers.

Mitiga airport, rumored to have fallen, is in fact a Gaddafi stronghold. He has infantry and tanks there.

As for Tajoura, popularly it has fallen, but Gaddafi units can still be seen there. They look dispersed and not very organized.

Now to make this easy for you guys to visualize, I'll work on a detailed western #Libya/Tripoli area map so you can place these events.
17 seconds ago

[Catherina]

47. update from iyad_elbaghdadi- Must read pt 2

iyad_elbaghdadi Iyad El-Baghdadi
Now to make this easy for you guys to visualize, I'll work on a detailed western #Libya/Tripoli area map so you can place these events.
1 minute ago

Still within Tripoli, there have been strange activity at Mitiga airport. Suspect that more mercenaries have just been brought in

Also heard about attempts to fly in "supporters" from Sabha, of course paying them handsomely. Don't know how that went. #Libya

Moving on to the living conditions in Tripoli...

Shops are closed, even the ones that are open have almost no stock left. Still open are mostly pharmacies and food stores. #Libya

Today many people in #Tripoli headed to banks; they insist it's not coz they support the freak, it's coz they're low on food at home.

Rumors that "schools have opened in #Tripoli" are regime propaganda. No one is crazy enough to let his children out. #Libya

My contact says three youths they know were asked at gunpoint to call TV stations and report that "everything is quiet and normal."

After they made the calls, their mobiles were taken away. They were told to stay at home, or will be shot.

They're lucky to be alive. #Libya

I posted yesterday, about the protester killed in Al-Hani district (http://bit.ly/eLsieh); I have more info about the man

He's recently married, his wife is 7-months pregnant with their first child. They live in Tajoura. His funeral was today.

The atmosphere in Tajoura in particular is very very tense. People ready to pounce at any moment. Ripe for revolution.

[Desertrose]

56. These people are so brave. nt

[Desertrose]

54. Easier to get a feel for what is happening and where...thx.Great post!

Doesn't sound good for Q...only a matter of time before he's gone.YAY!

[Catherina]

70. update from iyad_elbaghdadi- Must read, pt 3

People who had previous come to Tripoli (visiting) from nearby towns are now urged not to go back. The road is not safe. #Libya


People who had previous come to Tripoli (visiting) from nearby towns are now urged not to go back. The road is not safe. #Libya

OK, more about life in #Tripoli right now.

Several sources have provided me with phone numbers, but it's dangerous so I refused to call. I don't want to put them in danger.

People in #Tripoli can call each other, but cannot make outgoing international calls.

And incoming international calls are tracked by the regime. That puts the person being called in danger.

That said, it's probably safe to call people in the east or even in Misurata by phone.

OK so that was my report. There's a lot more going on that I won't say, in order not to compromise people on the ground.

Main effort I'll do now is try to put together a map showing (from multiple sources) where Gaddafi men are.

People in #Tripoli have internet, but only through the regime connections. That means Facebook & Twitter blocked.

Twitter problems now.

However most people in #Libya are used to using proxies and have perfected the art of reaching "blocked" sites.

My contacts for the most part are using satellite internet + proxies + anonymizers.

Ya hear that Lieberman? Good info there 4 ur kill switch

I have exciting news about Ghadamis, it seems that it's finally flying the independence flag!

Waiting for Sabha, that will be a game-changer.

I'm having serious Twitter issues now.

http://twitter.com/#!/iyad_elbaghdadi

[necso]

74. A few words on tactics

(a buff sort of thing):

Infiltration can be very useful. And if units can be attacked in unexpected ways (like from the front and rear), this can be very effective.

Also, if you can draw attackers into ambushes (like by faking resistance... although this can be very costly to those doing the faking), and then fall upon them from all sides, depriving them of the ability to maneuver (like in tight, (suddenly) blocked city streets) and of the initiative, this can be very demoralizing. And there's also the trick of allowing an adversary an apparent escape from some (apparent) trap, and then springing the real trap when he tries to use this "escape".

(But if they aren't allowed to surrender, then they might not.)

Try to get into your adversaries' heads, and then take advantage of their thinking (mis-thinking); once they lose confidence -- and begin to truly fear you -- they're in real trouble.

And if overrun, go to ground. Then don't fall for some ploy trying to get you to expose yourselves.

More generally, there seems to a lot of psywar, infowar, propaganda and disinformation going on. And the bandits seem to be trying to draw people out (so they can be slaughtered?) -- and to get the popular forces to make fatal mistakes (like using any aircraft they have too early). Use common sense (if they're using airplanes, these are coming from somewhere), and stay cool, determined.

Rpg's are very portable and a passable substitute for artillery. (Plus, they're "fun".) And simple molotov cocktails (a fragile container with gasoline or the like in it, and with a rag for a "fuse"; but test any weapon before using to make sure it works as envisioned) can be surprisingly effective (like when thrown from rooftops on trapped vehicles). Generally, aim for the vulnerable spots, like the air intakes. Also, I've heard that some soviet made personnel carriers are susceptible to machine-gun (even ak) fire in their wheel wells; try to hit the drivers, gunners and commanders, especially if they stick their heads out.

More generally, field expedient weapons can be very useful. Think about what you have, and how you can use it. Show great cunning and presence of mind; you're obviously a clever and quick-learning lot.

Got any sam's? Pilots fear them. (Always try to use the right weapon (means...) for the job.)

[necso]

77. Here's also some other really basic stuff

(not to insult anyone's intelligence):

Take positions with good, overlapping (where possible) fields of fire. And if you can fire on enemy approaches from multiple angles, so much the better. (Firing on them from behind tends to diminish their enthusiasm for the attack; however, the stay-behind fighter must be ready to greet death like a bride.) But fire-positions must not be exposed or otherwise overly vulnerable; and obviously you must avoid shooting each other, so consider suchlike things when taking positions and firing. Also, choose the best moments to fire.

And it's generally helpful if you can have staggered and pre-prepared defenses (any cover, as in a hole), with prepared fallback positions already in mind. (Fire, move, fire. Fall back when they are too strong; push forward when they weaken and falter.)

Plus, it's really field-expedient use of (any) weapons, including field-expedient weapons (things that really aren't intended to be used as weapons). For example, some random military ordnance (like that you can't otherwise use) can be very effectively made into an IED.

Also, the tracks on armored vehicles tend to relatively vulnerable, and once immobile, an armored vehicle has lost much of utility... if not its teeth (sneak up and burn them with gas-bombs, if nothing else). But generally it's only a question of time before a disabled armored vehicle is abandoned -- so let them be abandoned. (Just disabling vehicles of any kind can be effective.)

[Catherina]

44. Hearing about some pretty ingenious methods used by Zawia ppl 2 protect themselves from mercenaries

ChangeInLibya Libyan Dude
Hearing about some pretty ingenious methods used by Zawia people to protect themselves from mercenaries #libya #feb17
15 minutes ago

[Catherina]

45. More reports that the West is pretty much in the hands of the ppl, regime will never see light again

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
Again More reports that the West is pretty much in the hands of the people, seems with Tripoli the regime will never see light again #Libya
15 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Catherina]

46. since when's freedom of speech a crime? why are all arab countries shooting & killing protestors?!

juhina_ jay_Libya
since when's freedom of speech a crime? why are all arab countries shooting & killing protestors?! #tunisia #libya #oman #bahrain #egypt etc
11 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Heh.

[Catherina]

48. ICRC to dispatch emergency medical assistance to violence-racked

AlMasryAlYoum_E Al-Masry Al-Youm
ICRC to dispatch emergency medical assistance to violence-racked Libya http://ow.ly/44jVH #Libya #Feb17
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ICRC to dispatch emergency medical assistance to violence-racked Libya

Ahmed Zaki Osman
Sun, 27/02/2011 - 20:31

As the humanitarian situation deteriorates in next-door Libya, a surgical team affiliated with the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is expected to enter the troubled North African nation on Monday to help local medical staffs treat the injured, ICRC officials in Cairo told Al-Masry Al-Youm.

“The current situation is getting worse," ICRC Cairo spokesman Mohamed Sultan said. "Hospitals and clinics in cities like Benghazi are struggling to cope with large numbers of wounded.”

The emergency medical team, composed of six surgeons, will provide support for the medical staff of the Libyan Red Crescent, added Sultan.

"We're here to support the Libyan Red Crescent, which has been doing an excellent job over the past week responding to the violence," Simon Brooks, ICRC team leader in Benghazi, said in a press release issued on Sunday.

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http://www.almasryalyoum.com/en/news/icrc-dispatch-emergency-medical-assistance-violence-racked-libya

[Catherina]

49. state tv telling ppl banks will be open until 8pm, every family can come collect 500 dinars.

feb17voices Feb 17 voices
LPC #Tripoli: JamahirriyaTV (state tv) telling ppl banks will be open until 8pm, every family can come collect 500 dinars. #Libya #Feb17
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[sasha031]

58. trying to buy the masses again

[Catherina]

50. #Tunisia Bedji Caid Sebsi new Prime Minister

12fevrier Ouled Eldzair
Bedji Caid Sebsi nouveau premier ministre tunisien #Tunisie
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[Catherina]

53. New interim PM of #Tunisia- politician with a very long experience in several official positions

Dima_Khatib Dima Khatib أنا ديمة
New interim PM of #Tunisia is a politician with a very long experience in several official positions #sidibouzid
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[Catherina]

51. Sources in Benghazi:major effort to get 2 army barracks nr tribal town Ben Wahlid to defect

Tom_Rayner Tom Rayner
Sources in Benghazi tell Sky News of major effort to get 2 army barracks nr tribal town Ben Wahlid to defect #libya
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[Catherina]

52. Stores closing, not much food being sold. Price of flour and rice have gone from 11 dinars to 50

feb17voices Feb 17 voices
LPC #Tripoli: Stores closing, not much food being sold. Price of flour and rice have gone from 11 dinars to 50 dinars per bag. #Libya #Feb17
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[pinboy3niner]

68. That's a price jump from about $9 per bag to $40

At current exchange rates 1 dinar = about 80 cents U.S.

100 Libyan Dinars = $ 80.53 U.S.

500 Libyan Dinars = $ 402.68 U.S.

http://www.exchange-rates.org/Rate/LYD/USD

Increase of rice and flour from 11 LYD to 50 LYD per bag = increase from $8.86 per bag to $ 40.27

[Catherina]

55. #Iraq: Victims to the Vote

ahmedhabib Ahmed Habib
Something I wrote a few months ago, but is very relevant to Iraq now. Please read and share. http://bit.ly/8YQ7Qs
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Monday, November 15, 2010
Victims to the Vote

"It has been almost a million months since Iraqis ran to the polls, to fill holes in their souls with bloodstained ballots. Hundreds of candidates dressed up as maggots coloured the liberal lining in occupied skies, and perpetuated the lies that there is democracy. Hypocrisy of the highest order, politicians blaming their failure on porous borders, while blindly following American orders on everything from defence to education. The death of a nation, systematic assassination, and relentless dehumanization of millions of people. The burning of mosques, schools, hospitals and steeples for crumbs of rotten bread. Iraq is dead, shot in the heart and stabbed in the head." ~ Unfinished Letters from Iraq, broken part of a new spoken word piece.

Prior to the vote on March 7th of this year, all the major political factions running in the nationwide elections declared the entire affair to be corrupt and not representative of the people's will. They were preemptively cooking an excuse for any unwanted results that might emerge out of the charade. Independent reports corroborated their suggestions with testimonies of fake registration forms and leaky ballot boxes. However, the elections went through, and the results were applauded by other fake democracies around the world. Since then a constipated coalition building process has left Iraq with no government for more than eight months.

In spite of the satirical sadness of it all, the liberal media, and Iraq's desperate population continue to hold on to the electoral proceedings with religious fervour. From outside Iraq, those who politically organized the occupation see the elections as justification for their complicity in mass murder; while those inside the country try to cope with the immense loss of life by pinning their misguided hopes on the empty promises of one politician or the other.

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http://bigheadisms.blogspot.com/2010/11/victims-to-vote.html

[Catherina]

57. #Egypt: If u came late to revolution, Protect it. Its enemies everywhere. No one wants us 2 succeed

Sandmonkey Mahmoud Salem
If u came late to this revolution, that's also ur role. Protect it. Its enemies are everywhere. No one wants us to succeed.
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No shit.

[Catherina]

59. blatantly obvious ppl interviewed on state tv r threatened, can see them looking 2 some1off camera

curioustip huss
by ChangeInLibya@
@iyad_elbaghdadi its blatantly obvious that all those interviewed on libyan tv are threatened,you can see them looking to someone off camera
7 minutes ago

[Catherina]

60. Red Crescent, MSF, IslamicReliefUK, WMCLibya waiting @ borders 2 deliver aid - plz donate generously

libyansrevolt Libyans Revolt
by EndOppression
Red Crescent, MSF, @IslamicReliefUK @WMCLibya all waiting at the borders to deliver aid - please donate generously #libya #feb17
1 hour ago

[Catherina]

61. Zlitan between #Tripoli and #Mistra has fallen to #Gaddafi forces BUT

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya -damn Zlitan between #Tripoli and #Mistra has fallen to #Gaddafi forces Better news tanks heading from Sirte 2 Mistra stopped-mutiny?
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[sasha031]

65. #Gaddafi has brought 2000 #mercenaries from across border

MilitantNews MilitantNews
#Libya Army commander in #Benghazi says #Gaddafi has brought 2000 #mercenaries from across border in Chad to control the southern oil fields

[Catherina]

62. CONFIRMED: Ghadamis today lifted the flag of independence and is now under the control of protesters

ShababLibya LibyanYouthMovement
CONFIRMED: Ghadamis today lifted the flag of independence and is now under the control of the protesters #Libya #Feb17 #gaddaficrimes
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[Catherina]

63. Mohamed Omar Al Mokhtar is happy and proud with this revolution , the tribes are all one & united

Zeinobia Zeinobia
Mohamed Omar Al Mokhtar is happy and proud with this revolution , the tribes are all one and n united
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[Catherina]

64. #Egypt Shafiq has to go, mar3e has to go, wagdy has to go. PM, Justice Minister & Interior min >>>

Sandmonkey Mahmoud Salem
Shafiq has to go, mar3e has to go, wagdy has to go. PM, Justice Minister & Interior minister. All appointed by Mubarak. All must go.
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[Catherina]

66. #Egypt: One man in middle of a grp saying regime cannot b changed & demands will have no ceiling

beleidy Amr El Beleidy
One man in middle of a group saying the regime cannot be changed, and the demands will have no ceiling
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We got those here to. Duct tape him and carry on.

[Catherina]

67. A revolution does not settle for marginal improvement. It is a paradigm shift, a quantum leap

MostafaMGaafar Mostafa M Gaafar
A revolution does not settle for marginal improvement. It is a paradigm shift, a quantum leap #egypt #jan25
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[bobbolink]

76. That needs to be tatooed on our foreheads!

A revolution does not settle for marginal improvement. It is a paradigm shift, a quantum leap

[Catherina]

72. Chemical weapons seized by the Revolution youth from Hamza battalion in #Misurata

SaloumehZ SaloumehZ
RT @AlmanaraMedia Chemical weapons seized by the Revolution youth from Hamza battalion in #Misurata #Libya http://bit.ly/hmrBMj
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm6XF7l5iiQ&feature=player_detailpage

[CJvR]

75. Correct me if Im wrong...

...but doesn't that "chemical" weapon canister say "ejection seat cartridge" at 0:41?

[Catherina]

73. Part 6 here but

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x522359

If any subthreads updated, will update here for continuity and clarity