Koch (Industries) Statement on Wisconsin

[steve2470]

only an fyi for what they are saying:

http://www.kochind.com/kochFacts/

Efforts by state governments to balance their budgets – especially in Midwestern states such as Wisconsin – are generating considerable media attention. That coverage escalated when a liberal blogger – who fraudulently said he was David Koch – called Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and then broadcast a recording of their conversation.

There is considerable misinformation in media reports, but here are some essential facts:

Koch companies, including Georgia-Pacific, Flint Hills Resources, C. Reiss Coal Company, and Koch Pipeline Company, employ about 3,000 people in Wisconsin and support a total of 11,000 Wisconsin jobs.

Koch companies were not and are not involved in lobbying for Governor Walker’s budget repair bill – which includes weakening bargaining rights for public-sector unions – currently at issue in Wisconsin. Any suggestion that Koch Industries or a Koch company has some financial interest in the outcome of that legislation is false. We have taken no position on that state’s debate over public sector unions and do not intend to do so.

[Rabrrrrrr]

1. Oh, sure, maybe the companies aren't involved - but the owners sure as shit are. nt

[malaise]

2. Foch Kuck! n/t

[mzteris]

3. in other words

they're distancing themselves from Scotty!

:rofl:

[Lifelong Protester]

4. Why worry about taking a 'position' when you can just funnel

all the money you can in through the back door?

Sorry, Koch boys, that horse is OUT OF THE BARN!

Nice try at trying to look neutral.

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[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Isn't that a 180? Oh wait, it is

I think they are starting to realize... we hit one of these...

[eleny]

7. Well that's a pantload

[EV_Ares]

8. Seriously, do they really expect anyone to believe that BS. I mean anyone who has paid

any attention at all to what is going on in this country has heard of the Koch Brothers & their right-wing extremism and they are no friend of the American worker. They only ones to buy that garbage they put out are those who just want to make it true.

[ClarkUSA]

9. Hmm... I smell fear. What happened to, "We will never back down"?

I'll bet they heard back from some big shareholders who are unhappy over the publicity and the threat of a boycott of Koch products.

This lame CYA statement is pure PR and may be a gesture to appease that concern BUT IT WON"T WORK.

[davidinalameda]

10. cough*bullshit*cough

honestly, how stupid do they think people are

[mopinko]

11. sure, sure, that's the ticket.

[dgauss]

12. They positioned a lobbying office a block away from the Capitol Building

right before Walker was elected. I'd say that's taking a position.

[Thunderstruck]

19. Beat me to it, dgauss. This right here negates that entire statement.

[senseandsensibility]

13. They're feeling the heat.

And it doesn't look like WI is going to back down.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

14. What a boatload of bullshit. n/t

[indepat]

15. Brings to mind Desert Storm's Storming Norman's succinct 3-word epitaph:

was it "male bovine excrement?" :patriot:

[TacticalPeek]

16. Koch Companies Public Sector LLC

"We never heard of it. That's our story and we're sticking to it."

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_7e8aa25a-3ec0-11e0-9923-001cc4c03286.html

[Cleita]

17. I wonder how many union jobs those 11,000

Wisconsin jobs are? Just sayin'. If a lot of them are union jobs, they would have a dog in the fight to bust unions. From their own statement at the same website. This is what they say about unions.

Regarding unions in general:

Koch companies support voluntary associations, including agreements between unions and employers.

Union employees are vital to our operations. Nationwide, Koch company sites operate under more than 120 collective bargaining agreements.

Where unions exist, we respect their status, work with them in good faith, and always honor the terms of our collective bargaining agreements. This has been true for more than 50 years.

We think the best workplace relationships are directly between the worker and employer. It is a mischaracterization of our principles to say this means we want to dismantle all unions.

That statement in the bold letters (mine) pretty much summarizes that they only tolerate unions and that they would rather have a workplace relationship that is between the worker and employer, in other words no mediators really are needed.

[pacalo]

18. Uh huh.

And this dog had nothing to do with the condition of this chair:

[ladjf]

32. Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes? It's obvious that

those dogs were framed.

[HubertHeaver]

20. Can we read this as a thinly-veiled threat? "Koch companies,

including Georgia-Pacific, Flint Hills Resources, C. Reiss Coal Company, and Koch Pipeline Company, employ about 3,000 people in Wisconsin and support a total of 11,000 Wisconsin jobs.

As in "would you want that we eliminate those 11,000 jobs?"

[moondust]

22. delete

[Mojeoux]

21. "In fact we have no idea why Gov Walker would think WE called him!"

Now move along. Nothing to see here.

[Rectangle]

23. Well, that's good enough for me. I'm sorry I said anything bad about the Koch

Bros. They really are the good guys in all this!!@
:sarcasm: :eyes:

[rusty charly]

24. Next they'll say:

"I want my life back!!"

[subterranean]

25. Of course the Koch companies are not involved in lobbying Gov. Walker.

They have lobbying groups to do that.

[Fuzz]

26. Being assholes is bad for business?

[Sonoman]

27. Fuck that, Koch is running job ads.

Plant managers, etc.

No links, but it's a fact.

Sonoman

[ljm2002]

28. I wonder if they are starting to feel the boycott?

Otherwise it seems they would just not say anything at all...

[HarveyDarkey]

29. Here's what I think

[HubertHeaver]

30. "we did not have sex with that man, Scott Walker"

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

31. Do they not know what "Follow the money" means?