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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:08 PM
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What are the FIFTEEN states that are trying to pass anti-union bills?
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 06:40 PM by Tx4obama
They said on MSNBC there are 15 states trying to pass anti-union bills.

Wisconsin
Ohio
Indiana
Iowa
Nebraska
Florida
Alabama
Tennessee
Missouri
Idaho
Minnesota
Michigan

WHAT ARE THE OTHER THREE STATES?

Note: The final three are Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.


p.s. Mitch Daniels in Indiana and Rick Scott in Florida both said today that they were NOT against collective bargaining.

Edited to add: Missouri, Idaho, Minnesota, and Michigan.


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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:13 PM
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1. Add in Missouri
The GOP Senate is trying to push through RTW and remove child labor rules.

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:05 PM
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18. The child labor law bill
disgusts me. I don't remember the name of the woman involved but I saw her interview on channel 8 out of Columbia, MO. My kid had to tell me to put the hair brush down after I almost threw it at the television.

And I know a number of AFSCME members here in Missouri who are very worried about losing what they do have. They are nearly frantic about what's happening, especially since some administrators of facilities have informed them that they have no plans to listen to the union.

One of the GOP senators pushing the RTW bill is David Pearce.
http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/members/mem31.htm
He's a real piece of crap. I refused to vote for him and Denny Hoskins, my state rep. Their campaigns were horrible and they attempted to damage the reputation of their opponents on all levels.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:42 PM
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28. remove child labor laws?
What? How? How is it written? How can they be serious?
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:22 PM
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32. They are very serious
I believe it is Senate Bill 222.

Here is the link with the charming sponsor Cunningham.

http://www.senate.mo.gov/11info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?BillI...
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:34 PM
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35. Cunningham is dead serious.
And some people are convinced that's a good idea.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 02:26 PM
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41. Why? how? What the hell are these people thinking?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 03:56 PM
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42. I don't know.
She is saying something that seems to have a tiny grain of truth to it so anything she says after will be believed by some.

There are child labor laws that prevent children under a certain age from working. She throws in babysitting and paper routes, two classic coming of age type jobs. What she's done is twisted even that. Teens can babysit but they can't work in a day care with a number of children. They can have paper routes but they can't work routes that need a driver.

They've played this off just right and some are falling for it. I'm surprised that there isn't more of an uproar on DU about this.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:13 PM
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2. What ?
or which ?

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:17 PM
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3. 22 states are right-to-work states:
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:21 PM
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5. But that doesn't help to answer the question. n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:24 PM
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6. Please learn how to use Wikipedia
The following 22 states are right-to-work states:
* Alabama
* Arizona
* Arkansas
* Florida
* Georgia
* Idaho
* Iowa
* Kansas
* Louisiana
* Mississippi
* Nebraska
* Nevada
* North Carolina
* North Dakota
* Oklahoma
* South Carolina
* South Dakota
* Tennessee
* Texas
* Utah
* Virginia
* Wyoming
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:28 PM
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That is NOT a list of states that have anti-union bills pending.
A list of 'right to work' states is NOT what the question was.
The question has to do with the states that have anti-union bills pending in their legislatures!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:29 PM
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9. Define anti-union bill. n/t
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:31 PM
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11. Haven't you been watching the news?
The anti-union bills are the bills that would take away bargaining rights and would bust the unions!

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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:32 PM
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12. Define anti-union bill. n/t
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:20 PM
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4. OK is one.
nt
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:26 PM
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7. Nice...
...they have no idea what they are doing. One of my best friend is a teacher. Her husband is union. My father was union. Holy crap, I'm probably going to get fired because I am going to have to get involved in this.
Duckie
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:28 PM
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8. Minnesota is trying to put in right-to-work language
Senate bill sf1
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:30 PM
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10. When Mitch Daniels' lips are moving, you can assume it's a lie.
He's also busy trying to shove some sort of 30-year gas energy plan down our throats that will end up costing us plenty.

Just watch Mitch flip, as soon as the bucks roll his way.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:36 PM
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13. n/t
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 06:40 PM by Tx4obama
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:37 PM
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14. Florida GOP right now have a bill aimed at limiting how union dues are used.
And guess what they want to curtail. Union dues used for any type of political activity, including support of political candidates.


The FL GOP is going about this union busting in a piecemeal fashion, under the radar.


They think.



I will be very happy to see the national scrutiny turn toward what these creeps in Florida are pushing.













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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:41 PM
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15. How many of these states have a Repub majority? nt
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:42 PM
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16. Kansas will be on this list you watch
and they just voted in a super majority of repubs


Brownback thinks he is soooo godly
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 06:47 PM
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17. I don't know about MSNBC but this was on Labor Notes today:


http://www.labornotes.org/2011/02/shock-and-law-politic...

"Shock and Law: Politicians Push Anti-Worker Bills
Mark Brenner
| February 22, 2011


Labors 2011 political battles dont end at the Beltway. Anti-union forces are pushing bills and ballot measures to limit workers rights and curb union power from Maine to Hawaii.

Theyre gunning not just for public employees but for workers across the board. Legislators are debating proposals to ban collective bargaining for public employees, prohibit workers from choosing union representation through card check, and much more. In Missouri a senator even proposed repealing the states child labor law."

Hopefully that might help.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:09 PM
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20. Supposedly the child labor law is about
allowing children the opportunity to babysit, have a paper route, or mow lawns. Of course, we all know they are full of shit but I've heard people agree that it's a "good thing".

I feel like most of my adopted state is full of lemmings.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:18 PM
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22. I haven't looked into that one at all, I admit.
I thought kids could already do that. I babysat at 13 or 14, I think...that was a long time ago, but I that's what I remember.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:21 PM
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23. As far as I know, they can.
Edited on Tue Feb-22-11 07:22 PM by xmas74
My local newspaper advertises for ages 13 and up for delivery. The local Red Cross offers babysitting clinics at age 12 for babysitting.

At age 14 you can do farmwork. I walked the bean fields at that age and I know kids who still do it to this day. (Hell, with this economy, I might just do it again this summer for extra money.)

She's making it sound good but it's really a way to drop all the laws, taking away the limits on the hours they can work, the machinery they can use, etc. If this passes children can be scheduled to work during the school day and well past 7 pm. The law is worded in such a way that, as long as they throw a cot in the room and offer a few hours break, they can work more hours than adults.

(Just wanted to add: not only more hours, but they can earn "training wages" at that, since they are under 18.)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:32 PM
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25. Gotcha.
They'd love to bring back child labor and undercut even the stagnating wages of adult workers. Why can't anyone do math? Child earners don't really put $ back into the economy with the kind of purchases that get the engine going. It's baffling.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:36 PM
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26. Exactly.
But the senator who is really promoting this is making it sound as if it's all about allowing kids to have piddly jobs that teach them a bit of responsibility. She said that teens should have the chance to earn spending money to buy sodas and see a movie.

This bill isn't about that at all. It's about repealing child labor laws. It's about guaranteeing that lower middle class persons like myself lose their jobs to teens and cannot find another because the kids can be paid four dollars an hour and don't have any limits on how many hours they can work without receiving overtime or even breaks. It's about creating a generation of poor teens who will have to drop out of school because the employers will only hire them and not their parents.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:24 PM
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33. Here's the link on Missouri SB222
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:36 PM
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36. I looked it up right after I typed my responses earlier.
From what I'd heard with just one interview I knew it was crazy and that there is no way I'm supporting it. Problem is that I can't get my senator to pin himself down one way or another-at least not in public.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:49 AM
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37. My state Senator
is a Dem, so I know he will not support it, unfortunately there just are not enough of them in the Senate.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:14 AM
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38. I have Pearce
out of Warrensburg. I'm sure he'll be behind it. I'm shocked that he didn't personally write and present it.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:29 AM
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40. Hey You. You should start a separate thread with that post!! I've never seen that map before.
And it deserves to have more coverage here at the DU.

Thanks.
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:06 PM
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19. Add Oklahoma to the list
HB 1593 Will end collective bargaining if passed.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:40 PM
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27. My message editing period has expired for the OP. Sorry ;( n/t
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:09 PM
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21. Nevada, too
If you give me a while until I'm on a real computer and not a phone, I can provide the state senate bill number.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 07:25 PM
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24. Massachusetts? What are you talking about?
I live there and it's pretty much a completely Democratic state. I didn't see it mentioned on that map outlining anti-union activities. Are you sure that is correct, and if so what is the situation?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:53 PM
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29. Well, now I am not sure on that one. I thought I seen something about it on Twitter.
If MA is safe, then I apologize :)

But I think that they were including MA along with PA and NJ as the Easterns states the other day on the TV during an interview.



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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 09:00 PM
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31. Not MA. Patrick came out with a strong statement pro-Union. nt
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 07:19 AM
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39. He's a hypocrite. He has proposed taking away collective bargaining rights
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 07:23 AM by seaglass
to force public employees onto the GIC.

on edit:
This is making me so angry. He's a Democrat. I voted for him in November and he is full of shit. I have no clue why this is turning into a Republican v Democrat thing because there is absolutely NO GUARANTEE that Democrats are on the side of public employee unions.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 08:54 PM
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30. california dodged a bullet last year
thank dog, we now have a dem, jerry brown! woohoo!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-11 10:25 PM
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34. Florida will roll over without a fight.
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